townie

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In terms of soundtrack, framing and (especially) lighting, this thing is really top notch. Ocean has a cinematic standard he adheres to seemingly religiously and it really shows. Unfortunately, he might be too big of a fan of the old "show, don't tell" adage. That, to me, is the project's biggest problem.

One solution would be to have a more comprehensive 1st person narrator, in the form of the MC's internal dialogue. It's there (somewhat? Sometimes it seems to change between 1st and 3rd but I can't be sure without replaying the game and really paying attention), but it could stand to have a bigger presence. Should, really, considering how taciturn and prone to self-reflection the MC is. The main benefit to this would be curtailing scenes/moments that the MC doesn't consider all that relevant or interesting but still give the audience bullet points to what's happened. A good example would be the whole DnD session, but the applications would be manifold when it comes to reducing the amount of renders needed to complete any given scene by describing what's happened instead of showing. And it'd pair well with a character that doesn't seem to initially care for much but is attempting to open up as he goes along. Yes, it's telling instead of showing but hell, even Star Wars needed a title crawl.

Replaying the whole thing also made me aware of a number of odd turns of phrase (as if the words themselves were directly translated rather than the meaning of the expression), typos and just some really unnatural dialogue.

TL;DR- Get a writer, Ocean. It doesn't mean giving up creative control and it would help bring the text up to par with the visuals and save you time best spent on moving the plot forward so you can manage to finish this before the heat death of the universe.
 
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Bip

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The patch SG seems buggy because of a typo.

In PatchSG.rpy, you have to change:

label Tennis04:
with
label Tennis04p:
 
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leo_grouch

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Nice chapter, I do think the board game, although not bad, was unnecessary. Maybe a little contest between DPC and OL to see who can portray the best fantasy board game scene, who knows.
Wondering if Summer's mother was Leia in WIAB, earrings and snake necklace and all that. Also strange that MC in WIAB has the same eye colours as Vanessa in SG.
( yeah i know i will get yelled at for saying this), It may have been better if OL did a lot more of WIAB before he continued or even started SG. The rework really, although i am sure necessary since the stories are obviously interconnected in ways, makes everyone wait even further to see the beginning of Summer's story.
As well i hope, when there is actual sexual interaction. It is done on the same level of quality as the cinematics.

Great work Ocean.
 
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Okay, so I guess I'm a little confused here. Back when this game first came out there was a little warning that said there was no sex scenes yet and to come back later. Alright fair enough I'll wait. So I came back a year later and the warning is still there, but a different image so it's not just a hold over.
Alright? Guess I'll wait a little longer.
Just downloaded the game and got a new image but same message saying there are still no sex scenes in the game. How does a game that has been in development for over 3 years not have any sex scenes. I mean A Wife and Mother is lambasted for giving blue balls but it actually has a lot of sex in it already. So how is it that this game can go three years and not have a single sex scene?
 
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KhamulTG81

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Okay, so I guess I'm a little confused here. Back when this game first came out there was a little warning that said there was no sex scenes yet and to come back later. Alright fair enough I'll wait. So I came back a year later and the warning is still there, but a different image so it's not just a hold over.
Alright? Guess I'll wait a little longer.
Just downloaded the game and got a new image but same message saying there are still no sex scenes in the game. How does a game that has been in development for over 3 years not have any sex scenes. I mean A Wife and Mother is lambasted for giving blue balls but it actually has a lot of sex in it already. So how is it that this game can go three years and not have a single sex scene?
This isn't a porn game! This is a story-focused game with adult elements.
If you just want to fap, this is certainly the wrong game for you.

Story build-up does need some time.
 

deoclitian

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this game gets better with every update and Ocean should receive a lot more praises than he does
on the side notes:
Bella is most compatible girl with MC and she`s in real emotional state right now, I just hope in the next update when she will race she will come back in one piece
Nami has the best personality
Sasha and Robin are planning something
Summer might be dead, this is why MC might`ve suppresed his memories and the white roses at begining of the game might be a metaphore for her death
 

Ragnar

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Okay, so I guess I'm a little confused here. Back when this game first came out there was a little warning that said there was no sex scenes yet and to come back later. Alright fair enough I'll wait. So I came back a year later and the warning is still there, but a different image so it's not just a hold over.
Alright? Guess I'll wait a little longer.
Just downloaded the game and got a new image but same message saying there are still no sex scenes in the game. How does a game that has been in development for over 3 years not have any sex scenes. I mean A Wife and Mother is lambasted for giving blue balls but it actually has a lot of sex in it already. So how is it that this game can go three years and not have a single sex scene?
You can't have story build up and sex scenes at the same time it seems :KEK:
 

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Maybe I'm alone in this opinion but I thoroughly didn't enjoy the whole DnD-2077 part of the update.

I feel like a huge chunk of rendering time went out to a completely mundane and forgettable part of the chapter whereas just more of the story time could've been expanded. I know other developers put in similar segments to their chapters but just feeling like this didn't bring anything meaningful or enriching.

Either way, the rest of it was some quality content, looking forward to what's next.
It's always a question of comparing the length of it, compared to the complete update, how entertaining it was and if it managed to accomplish something.
Entertainment wise, that's pretty much up to each person themselves. Personally, I found it mildly entertaining, but not as much as it could have been considering how much of the update it took over. As for accomplishing something, it did character work, but that could have been achieved using other methods as well and ultimately where it failed for me, as it did, it seems for you, was in comparing how much of the update was spent on it, which could have arguably been used better.
I say arguably, because obviously in the end it's Oceanlab's game, so if he considers it important enough to warrant such a large chunk of the update that took 8 months to make, that's up to him.
However, in my personal opinion (which one is always allowed to have, contrary to the belief of some in this thread), I would have probably enjoyed less of it more. :cool:
 

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this game gets better with every update and Ocean should receive a lot more praises than he does
on the side notes:
Bella is most compatible girl with MC and she`s in real emotional state right now, I just hope in the next update when she will race she will come back in one piece
Nami has the best personality
Sasha and Robin are planning something
Summer might be dead, this is why MC might`ve suppresed his memories and the white roses at begining of the game might be a metaphore for her death
This!

It's the first game I became a supporter and all because the last update was more than amazing to me. The amount of details in each frame/picture and the character interaction is amazing. I've seen good games, but the pacing for me is amazing. I love that is not pure fuck fest.
 

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As it stands, considering the mental state the MC is in and relationship status to potential love interests, this is indeed the case. It's not surprising at all...
People with depression and ptsd have sex too you know. Apparently the MC can't get hard but there are pills for that.
It's a bit comical tbf. He has a dozen of nubile fertile girls jumping on his dick and he's like, Nothing personnel, thots.
 

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Maybe I'm alone in this opinion but I thoroughly didn't enjoy the whole DnD-2077 part of the update.

I feel like a huge chunk of rendering time went out to a completely mundane and forgettable part of the chapter whereas just more of the story time could've been expanded. I know other developers put in similar segments to their chapters but just feeling like this didn't bring anything meaningful or enriching.

Either way, the rest of it was some quality content, looking forward to what's next.
This is basically what everyone thinks, it's not awful or anything just a shame so much work went to it instead of the main plot.
 
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People with depression and ptsd have sex too you know. Apparently the MC can't get hard but there are pills for that.
It's a bit comical tbf. He has a dozen of nubile fertile girls jumping on his dick and he's like, Nothing personnel, thots.
dev has said from day one this is not a porn game, its story focused. I do not get that some of you still come here to complain about no sex scenes. there are sooooooooooooo many games on here with sex and people still decide to come here to complain because this one doesnt have it yet... its not hard to read the dev notes and the start of the game, if it affects the few of you that much dont play, its so simple yet seems so hard for you to understand..

if someone is that down and has no desire for sex why in the fuck would he go take a pill to get it up? he doesnt want to yet, the time will come when that kinda thing starts happening but some of you give zero fucks about the actual story and just want sex thrown in for the sake of it, its selfish as fuck tbh.
 

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Oh I can see this story is getting to be so great as it goes along. If only they could make a mini series that was half this good but they're all shit. Gilmore Girls was great but that was funny and a much smaller scope. People with big money running into poor people with morals is always interesting. Loved the dinner. Reminded me so much of the blackmail Friday night dinners on Gilmore Girls but an xxx version :love: (y)
 
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He has a dozen of nubile fertile girls jumping on his dick and he's like, Nothing personnel, thots.
He develops romantic interest with only two potential partners at the moment, Nami and Bella. Bella, he cut of for the time beeing because he has the assumption that the relationship would eventually implode and cause even more mental damage. Not only for him but also for her.
With Nami he is extremely protective but also has the tendency to feel comfort in her embrace in an non sexual way. Nami is the one pursuing the MC but with no success for the time being.
And he has absolutely no sexual interest in any of the numerous other love interests at the moment. In an universe where every woman is stunning and gorgeous this is arguably not surprising especially given the mental state he is in.
 
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I honestly don't get the oversexed teenagers on here. Even if this game had sex scenes in this update, what are you gonna do? skip through approximately 8000 renders just to jack off once? Honestly, if you want to fap there are better games out there. I don't get why you guys need to eat your cake and have it too.
 
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