risky0

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I don't have a personal problem with Bella, on the contrary, her story is really good.
Bella is simply the female version of Mc.

The problem with her is that the game pressures me to follow her path.
Yes, we have a chance not to have a relationship with her, but there is no LI way other than her in the current version.
So there is no such detailed route as Bella.
This isn't fair for the other female characters as the scene devoted to Bella is too much.
For this reason, Bella is now seen as the on-screen face of the game.
People get hooked on her because the game's first season focused on her.

What makes Maja special is that this is the first time mc has opened up some of her feelings to someone other than Nami and that person is Maja.
If you play the rehab scene again, you'll realize how special it was, it was a really beautiful scene, Mc holding her hand, the three of them hugging...

She is my queen.
...
 

Ottoeight

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The problem with her is that the game pressures me to follow her path.
Yes, we have a chance not to have a relationship with her, but there is no LI way other than her in the current version.
So there is no such detailed route as Bella.
Let me disagree with you.

1) the first main girl you come across is Vic.

2) If MC has a "destiny girl" in his life, this girl either is Vic or Bella. And, quoting MC himself, our MC believes in destiny. Therefore, it's not true that the game is forcing you Bella.

3) since the very beginning you have to choose between Bella and Nami, and between Vic and Mila. You can't date Vic if you date Mila, and you can't date Mila if you date Vic.

4) there are 2 big main branching scenes where the game is clearly showing you that there are quite a few different routes:

- 2nd gym scene, where you invite Bella (best choice for Bella route), Mila (best choice for Mila route), Nami (best choice for Nami route), go alone (best choice for Sasha route);
- night at Vic's, where you choose to have a walk with Mila (Mila route), Nami (Nami route) or Vic (Vic route).

Of course, everything depends on your choices, but the story is clearly showing us that we have 4 different main girl routes (Vic, Mila, Nami and Bella) which are fully developed and the beginning of 2 more girl routes (Sasha and Zara) right now.
 

risky0

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Let me disagree with you.

1) the first main girl you come across is Vic.

2) If MC has a "destiny girl" in his life, this girl either is Vic or Bella. And, quoting MC himself, our MC believes in destiny. Therefore, it's not true that the game is forcing you Bella.

3) since the very beginning you have to choose between Bella and Nami, and between Vic and Mila. You can't date Vic if you date Mila, and you can't date Mila if you date Vic.

4) there are 2 big main branching scenes where the game is clearly showing you that there are quite a few different routes:

- 2nd gym scene, where you invite Bella (best choice for Bella route), Mila (best choice for Mila route), Nami (best choice for Nami route), go alone (best choice for Sasha route);
- night at Vic's, where you choose to have a walk with Mila (Mila route), Nami (Nami route) or Vic (Vic route).

Of course, everything depends on your choices, but the story is clearly showing us that we have 4 different main girl routes (Vic, Mila, Nami and Bella) which are fully developed and the beginning of 2 more girl routes (Sasha and Zara) right now.
We will probably never agree.

I said there is no detailed route like Bella. I didn't say there is no other route.
There are no 4 detailed routes, only one advanced route for romance.
If you're on the Bella route, the purely romantic scenes are too much versus the others.
They even fell in love with each other.
What other girl can go this far with mc in the current version of the game?
It's not fair.

I love the game and have no issues with it.
I think the game made a mistake by not providing a fair competition environment.

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We will probably never agree.

I said there is no detailed route like Bella. I didn't say there is no other route.
There are no 4 detailed routes, only one advanced route for romance.
If you're on the Bella route, the purely romantic scenes are too much versus the others.
They even fell in love with each other.
What other girl can go this far with mc in the current version of the game?
It's not fair.

I love the game and have no issues with it.
I think the game made a mistake by not providing a fair competition environment.

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I think you lose sight of the fact that the game isn't even 20% complete and there is plenty of time to develop the rest of the characters.

Nami path is just as developed as the Bella path and Vic/Mila aren't far behind.
 

Ottoeight

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We will probably never agree.

I said there is no detailed route like Bella. I didn't say there is no other route.
There are no 4 detailed routes, only one advanced route for romance.
If you're on the Bella route, the purely romantic scenes are too much versus the others.
They even fell in love with each other.
What other girl can go this far with mc in the current version of the game?
It's not fair.

I love the game and have no issues with it.
I think the game made a mistake by not providing a fair competition environment.

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But it's your choice only. Being on her route is quite a narrow path.

Anyway,

1) as Mila noted, Vic has the hots for MC. And you should remember what he tells Vic at the end of chapter 2 when they hug.

2) MC tells Nami that he loves her. And he tells that Nojiko and Nami are the most important people in his life.
 

yossa999

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I think you lose sight of the fact that the game isn't even 20% complete and there is plenty of time to develop the rest of the characters.

Nami path is just as developed as the Bella path and Vic/Mila aren't far behind.
So far it's safe to say that Bella's path is most interesting. Because it is based on conflict, strong emotions and passion. It develops swiftly and takes the player on an emotional roller coaster. It seems to me too that Nami has at least the same amount of content as Bella, but her storyline is going with the quite slower pace than Bella's for now. I hope it's until now, I like the redhead as much as the blondie.
 

risky0

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But it's your choice only. Being on her route is quite a narrow path.

Anyway,

1) as Mila noted, Vic has the hots for MC. And you should remember what he tells Vic at the end of chapter 2 when they hug.

2) MC tells Nami that he loves her. And he tells that Nojiko and Nami are the most important people in his life.
I don't want to turn the subject into something personal, I will never agree with you.

Nami will rise and Bella will fall, it's only a matter of time.
I can't fight all the bella fans alone.:p
 

Frowster

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I said there is no detailed route like Bella. I didn't say there is no other route.
There are no 4 detailed routes, only one advanced route for romance.
If you're on the Bella route, the purely romantic scenes are too much versus the others.
They even fell in love with each other.
What other girl can go this far with mc in the current version of the game?
It's not fair.
Nami has just as much screen time as Bella - if not more - and is the only one who manages to get any reaction out of the MC's wormy. Rather tellingly, this happens even if you're not on her route - first at the lake (and she wasn't even trying here) and again at Nick's in the jacuzzi if you let her do her thing*. Bella fails to do this, despite her best efforts and everything else she has going for her. So you see, she doesn't get to do it all.

Nami's route does take more time to develop, but this is a natural consequence of the nature of her relationship with the MC. A solid build-up was necessary to get it going. Now the stage is set for things to really pick up between them.

*true for Nami routes, not sure about the rest because I didn't let her grind on the MC when I wasn't on her path. But the lake scene always happens no matter what.

It's true that Bella's had more screen time than the others, although this is in no small part dictated by the current flow of the story. The subplots the game explores in the early chapters require Bella to have plenty of screen time, whether you romance her or not, which by extension gives the game more room to build on her romance path compared to the other girls. The others will get their chance to shine later and some, like Mila, already have a good amount of content.

2) MC tells Nami that he loves her. And he tells that Nojiko and Nami are the most important people in his life.
To be fair, at that point he means it in the platonic sense. It takes quite a while for him to realize that he's started to see Nami as more than a 'roommate'... but when he does, he wastes no time in communicating it to her... if you let him, that is.
 

Mr. Baker

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sup, newbie here and i want to discuss a specific scene with all of you...

in the last update, Mila quotes that the one we pushed in the bookshelves was Kai, but when that happened Nadia calls him "Justin", like wtf??

can someone explain me if this is ANOTHER writing mistake made by Ocean?
or is something that will be used on future?

love the game btw, some shit dialogues and non-sense situations here and there, but i still love the game.

BELLA BEST GIRL <3


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Wirrerr

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sup, newbie here and i want to discuss a specific scene with all of you...

in the last update, Mila quotes that the one we pushed in the bookshelves was Kai, but when that happened Nadia calls him "Justin", like wtf??

can someone explain me if this is ANOTHER writing mistake made by Ocean?
or is something that will be used on future?

love the game btw, some shit dialogues and non-sense situations here and there, but i still love the game.

BELLA BEST GIRL <3


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That's wired, I could swear that in my game she said Justin, but I checked just now and yeah, she said Kai
 

Razrback16

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So question for you all - what do you think will happen / be found when the MC goes to the cabin?

I think it's expected that the MC is going to have a meltdown of sorts, and while I think he will certainly have trauma from the event that will be a challenge for him to work through, I am curious if it will actually be Amber that has the full-blown meltdown...I'm imagining the MC go through the painful process of walking Amber through what happened with him and Summer and there being an eerie reaction from Amber that eventually is made clear to the player that the circumstances of Summer's disappearance has similarities to whatever happened to Amber's other daughter, which, as the MC lays things out, causes Amber to have to sort-of live through the process again, herself, leading to the MC consoling her instead of the other way around.

I don't know, could be completely off, but just was thinking about this upcoming part of the story the other day and thought to myself...everyone's kind of expecting that trip to go a certain way once they get to the official therapy session in the cabin, but what could turn it on its head a little bit to advance the story but also add some additional mystery to it, not to mention what would then become an obvious bonding situation for both the MC & Amber, but also for people on the Bella path, it would become something additional the MC & Bella have in common.

Just sharing my thoughts. :coffee:
 

TypicalTrashBag

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sup, newbie here and i want to discuss a specific scene with all of you...

in the last update, Mila quotes that the one we pushed in the bookshelves was Kai, but when that happened Nadia calls him "Justin", like wtf??

can someone explain me if this is ANOTHER writing mistake made by Ocean?
or is something that will be used on future?

love the game btw, some shit dialogues and non-sense situations here and there, but i still love the game.

BELLA BEST GIRL <3


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It could just be like Justin his first name and Kai could be his last name or Kai even could be the name that his friends call him.
 
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anonnyscouse

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Assuming it's not author error (which it could be and could easily be fixed when chapter comes out of beta). It could be that Justin and Kai are in the same group of assholes and Kai is the leader of the group. Bella wasn't there for the library incident so heard about it second or third hand, the story may have been embellished by those telling it so Bella hears he stood up to the gang leader rather than just an underling, MC probably can't remember what Nadia said his name was because he didn't care so didn't correct Bella.

If that's the case we could have a later scene of an unknown guy approaching MC threateningly:

Guy: I heard you beat me up in the library.
MC: Who the fuck are you, I never beat anyone up there.
Guy: That's not what everyone else is saying, if you're going to start a rumor you have to back it up, you and me after college in the gym.
MC: I don't know anything about these rumors and don't want to fight you, but if I have to then I will.
 

Carvangar

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Developer Notes:

This isn't a porn game!
I wish more NOT PORN games were like this one. The protagonist surrounded by an endless amount of tits and ass, every other camera shot focusing on said tits and ass, and the girls wearing either tight clothes emphasizing their assets or just having their tits nearly hanging out. :cool:

This game is the ultimate tease. :sneaky:
 

PaxHadrian17

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So question for you all - what do you think will happen / be found when the MC goes to the cabin?

I think it's expected that the MC is going to have a meltdown of sorts, and while I think he will certainly have trauma from the event that will be a challenge for him to work through, I am curious if it will actually be Amber that has the full-blown meltdown...I'm imagining the MC go through the painful process of walking Amber through what happened with him and Summer and there being an eerie reaction from Amber that eventually is made clear to the player that the circumstances of Summer's disappearance has similarities to whatever happened to Amber's other daughter, which, as the MC lays things out, causes Amber to have to sort-of live through the process again, herself, leading to the MC consoling her instead of the other way around.

I don't know, could be completely off, but just was thinking about this upcoming part of the story the other day and thought to myself...everyone's kind of expecting that trip to go a certain way once they get to the official therapy session in the cabin, but what could turn it on its head a little bit to advance the story but also add some additional mystery to it, not to mention what would then become an obvious bonding situation for both the MC & Amber, but also for people on the Bella path, it would become something additional the MC & Bella have in common.

Just sharing my thoughts. :coffee:
I remember something from either Patreon or SS and the trip that Amber and the MC make to the cabin will impact a number of relationships.

Amber is already physically involved in the MC's therapy - having him rest his head on her lap while she tries to get him to remember different things that have happened to him.

I think that this aspect of her therapy could lead to a level of unintended intimacy (kissing, petting and other 'first base' activities - with the MC remembering this with Summer and Amber unintentionally participating in these memories, initially). If it does not go too far, she may well let it play out to try to help the MC unlock the painful memories that are holding him back from moving forward (and negatively impacting his sleep and his ability to get aroused without thinking of Summer).

Amber likes the MC for a number of reasons, with the primary being how good he is for Bella. I think Bella stopped at home to clean up (her makeup was fixed when she arrived at the MC's house, and she looked like a racoon when she was driving home at the end of CH 4) and she and Amber talked briefly. How would Amber feel about Bella returning home early so she could go see the MC? I think Amber would be Very pleased, marveling that her Bella is now treating the MC like a boyfriend and Amber is certainly aware of this huge change in Bella's behavior. As the MC, I also told Amber that Miss Marla was having a hard time with what happened with Victoria. In showing Amber that the MC is genuinely trying to help others and breakout from his emotional prison, he is scoring points with Amber as a caregiver and as a woman.

I agree with you about the cabin visit providing some unintended knowledge/memories/more puzzle pieces related to the loss of Amber's daughter. I also agree that the relationship with Amber could grow deeper as he consoles Amber when she lets her own grief out (something she hides from Bella since Bella barely has the bandwidth to deal with her own pain from losing her sister so she cannot help Amber).

I think that the shared pain that the MC and Amber overcome together could offer real bonding and start to turn the MC/Amber relationship from one that is almost purely professional to one that is more emotionally intimate.

I certainly don't see an Amber/Bella throuple here, but I think that the cabin therapy will open/further open doors to other relationships, including one with Amber. I also think it could damage or even potentially end some relationships if the Amber/MC shared memories provide unexpected reveals about who was involved in the disappearance of one or both girls.

The MC will, I think, have major choices to make (relationship wise, like the Nami reveal at the end of CH 4.5) that will open up or close several relationships.

Finally, I'll close with this thought.

Let's say that the MC is holding Amber close in the aftermath of consoling her; she'd finally shared her hurt about the loss of her daughter, pain she hid inside herself for years. Amber is unconsciously rubbing her head on the MC's chest, one arm wrapped around his back while the other is draped across his chest. The MC is gently stroking her back while he finds himself taking deep breaths, enjoying the scent of Amber's shampoo and then smelling something beyond the shampoo, Amber's scent as a woman. He is uncertain at first and begins to take deeper, longer breaths through his nose... yes this wonderful smell is more than a shampoo.

Amber senses the change in the MC and she lifts her head to look at his face, her arm across the MC's chest sliding down to fall gently onto his waist, but Amber does not even notice, for now. "Did you think of something else that will help us find out who did this to ..." Amber's voice falls off as she sees the MC's eyes dilate and then feels something move beneath her hand. She looks down and sees .... and feels ... something growing under her hand, and she pauses, confused. He cannot get an erection without thinking about Summer and as that thought goes through her mind, she can't help but give that substantial bulge a gentle squeeze.

The MC quietly groans as he feels Amber press her hand along his erection and squeeze... realizing that he has an Erection.

Amber's fingers freeze when she hears the MC groan and she lifts her head to look at the MC's face, then she slowly squeezes him again, getting another quiet groan in response, a part of her mind noting that he is still growing and getting even harder before she, almost reluctantly, moves her hand away. Amber pauses, wets her lips slowly then says, "You ah you have a major erection... were you thinking about Summer?" The MC slowly shakes his head no, then says "I ... I'm sorry... I was thinking about you".

Have a great morning! :coffee:
 
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