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  • Amber will keep it professional
  • Despite that there'll be a skimpy dress and a ton of sexy shots and poses
  • MC will have a panic attack during the session
  • Amber will help him through it, possibly cathartic
  • MC will remember a tiny detail he had forgotten, something that instantly puzzles him
  • MC ends up becoming obsessed over this detail and start investigating it
This is actually pretty good.... Definitely better than "Amber riding the shit out of MC" without no fucking reason whatsoever except "it's a porn game, there needs to be porn in it!"...
 

TypicalTrashBag

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Maybe we need a new tag for the people who expect "100% grounded in reality " games. If one decide to pick upart every other game available here,there will be only one or two that will be fully " realistic " out of millions of games.
I did play it and saw the point about putting Victoria down, i mentioned in my post.
MC saying it is one thing but executing it is totally different, there were no signs MC is planning to do it, it was just an observation from him.
He says that out loud. So I think that's enough to make such a scene.
 
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Srimanta

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Well i disagree, some of them make way more sense then others. Some of them come up with unrealistic situations or unrealistic premises, but characters act in logical or believable ways in those situations.
In this game i feel like MC could start publicly masturbating in class because he remembered Summers and got aroused, and i wouldn't be surprised anymore. Or Victoria approach sports coaches and offer to participate in wheelchair races cos college needs more trophies.
Ha ha Sure..
You don't have to play SG , no one is forcing you.
 

Bombmaster

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On the original list
I did play it and saw the point about putting Victoria down, i mentioned in my post.
MC saying it is one thing but executing it is totally different, there were no signs MC is planning to do it, it was just an observation from him.
If you are going to contest MC motivation or plot structure we can't have nice things most games with big plot and LI are all over the place.

Suggest you read a more direct novel then. One LI small scale.

This game is well praised because it's the better ones we got. Top five of most ppl.
(Unfinished ones that is)
 

Renfield42069

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Got this AVN in recommendations and decided to give it a shot, seeing as it got quite a following.
Right now i am somewhere in chapter 2 and i feel really conflicted.
Is this game some kind of fan-service?
Author states that at the moment, the main focus of game is on plot and worldbuilding, and not on lewd scenes.
But at the same time the situations that happen are so irrational that they make no sense, in my opinion.

- Whole Victoria accident scene is fucking mindblown nonsense and idiocy.
* MC walking the street and thinking aloud is ok i guess and happens, but its weird, since MC is painted as asocial type, those do not speak their mind in random fashion. So ye, accident happens, MC is thinking aloud about how finishing Victoria would be more merciful, while executing some kind of first-aid protocol and calling for ambulance. Our MC at this moment looks like asocial but companionate human being.
* Then woman (who is college teacher named Marla, as we learn later), that should be somewhat shocked from the fact that she just hit and knocked down someone with a car, proceeds to grab a gun (wtf, are female college teachers carrying guns as part of daily life) and aims at MC (wtf why, he is not threatening and got no weapons). She is not checking on Victoria, she is not checking on car state, she grabs a gun, its the first action that we see from her after accident happens. Like what is author is smoking? At this point i honestly was assuming that the woman is just some kind of hitman trying to get rid of Victoria and finish the job. Like she aimed the gun at MC cos she needed to get rid of witness as well.
* Then armed woman lets MC to take gun from her hands. I mean really, teenager boy sees accident, then sees culprit grabbing a gun and aiming at him. So first thing he decides on is to approach and grab that gun. I guess this teenage boy is on crack or got basketball sized balls.
* Then comes the option to shoot the woman... Now i know MC is definitely on crack. Like this is the first AVN where i was offered to roleplay as loud-speaking psycho-killer teenager. I followed this option just to see how the situation evolves - and our guy shoots woman in her leg.
* Police arrives and officer is totally not interested in gunfight that occurred. MC is allowed to leave the the scene, even grab victim's wallet (not a choice!). Since i know that MC is psycho i am no longer surprised that he didn't think of returning the wallet or giving the ID to policeman. I am just surprised about contrast with MC that was earlier at the scene and was interested in helping Victoria and calling for ambulance.

- Well ok fast-forward to college start.
* Our woman from accident scene appears to be college teacher named Marla and she is tutoring our MC and (surprise!) victim girl. She deals with presences of boy that shot her and girl that she recently crippled like usual daily business. Zero emotion, zero compassion, "Victoria you will be sitting here, i tell you".
* Our MC gives no fucks as well.
* Victoria gives no fucks as well - its totally fine to study under person who put you into wheelchair.
* At this point i am waiting on when the situation about accident going to resolve itself through communication. But the only communication Marla wants with MC is to inform that she for some absolutely undefined reason wants him to cooperate with Bella.

- Ok, relationship with Bella evolves
* Bella crushes MC's balls during game and refuses to apologize, while expecting to continue study project with him as usual.
* Guess what, MC gives no fucks and proceeds to cooperate with Bella and even builds mutual plans.

I could go on but game's story seems to me as nonsense built on nonsense.
We are worldbuilding so no lewdity. But here take these nipple-slips, they are totally fine.
In what world you would be allowed college physical exercises without tracksuits or uniform i do not know, but in this game random transparent bodysuit is totally fine and brings zero attention of coaches.

Meh, i really do not know why should i keep playing this game, please tell me all this shit gets resolved later.
I will attempt to address that (rather long) exposition in order.

- Your character isn't asocial, he's become antisocial and is pretty clearly suffering from extreme depression. You've isolated yourself from (most) others and become comfortable in your isolation, which leads most people to getting inside their own head. Saying the creepy weird shit out loud is odd (I also found it unusual), but people are odd.

- She was shocked, you literally just explained how weird you thought that line of thinking, much less saying it out loud, was. We don't know her exact reason for carrying, I don't recall it being gone over, but it is later established that she was already going to therapy. Maybe she was abused or attacked previously.

- People almost always hesitate to shoot another person the first time. This is an observed phenomena even in theaters of war. As we've established, your character has lost most, if not all, of his marbles so he doesn't feel like he has anything to lose by taking it from her.

- I didn't even attempt to shoot her. I did go back and check this after you said it, and... you don't shoot her. You shoot near her, and it turns out there were blanks in the gun. Why? I dunno. Maybe my previous statement about past abuse is correct and she thought the gun was enough of a deterrent so she wouldn't actually have to shoot someone. Could also further explain her hesitance because she was bluffing, the entire time, and you called her on it.

- As we just established, there was no "gunfight". If the cop didn't even see the exchange, there's no reason they wouldn't allow you to leave. They'd likely ask for a statement, you're under no legal obligation to stay and give one.

- You didn't shoot her. She is traumatized about it; you would have seen this play out later.

- MC is a couple nuggets short of a happy meal, as established.

- Victoria was unconscious, if I remember correctly, so there's a good chance she never even met the woman (I don't remember if it says she ever visited her or anything).

- The Bella arc is weird, or not that weird, depending on how you play it. Also, you, the main character, are kinda nuts.

I only recently even played the game (such as it is). It has great visuals but I'm not a diehard fan ready to simp for it. That said, as far as AVNs go, the plot isn't as much of a mess as you seem to think. It's pretty coherent, and more of it would have made sense if you had finished playing it out.
 

WhistlerWCT

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The game is currently being reworked. Chapter 2 is the last to be reworked and the first half of it should be released soon.

The shooting scene survived the rework because it's a fan favourite, I don't think we ever had an explanation lol. Anyway people in high-stress situations act weirdly, I don't have any problem with that scene other than MC possibly shooting Marla.


The game is set in some sort of Europe-USA mix. There're certainly some exceptions, but generally we don't do "uniforms" in Europe. Schools are supposed to be cheap and affordables, a useless extra like an uniform would be heavily contested.

A trasparent bodysuit wouldn't be allowed but the school bears the surname of WiAB MC, and I'm sure Will would give his OK lol.
Thank you for explanations.
Guess i will wait on Chapter 2 rework and attempt to make my judgement again.
 

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I will attempt to address that (rather long) exposition in order.

- Your character isn't asocial, he's become antisocial and is pretty clearly suffering from extreme depression. You've isolated yourself from (most) others and become comfortable in your isolation, which leads most people to getting inside their own head. Saying the creepy weird shit out loud is odd (I also found it unusual), but people are odd.

- She was shocked, you literally just explained how weird you thought that line of thinking, much less saying it out loud, was. We don't know her exact reason for carrying, I don't recall it being gone over, but it is later established that she was already going to therapy. Maybe she was abused or attacked previously.

- People almost always hesitate to shoot another person the first time. This is an observed phenomena even in theaters of war. As we've established, your character has lost most, if not all, of his marbles so he doesn't feel like he has anything to lose by taking it from her.

- I didn't even attempt to shoot her. I did go back and check this after you said it, and... you don't shoot her. You shoot near her, and it turns out there were blanks in the gun. Why? I dunno. Maybe my previous statement about past abuse is correct and she thought the gun was enough of a deterrent so she wouldn't actually have to shoot someone. Could also further explain her hesitance because she was bluffing, the entire time, and you called her on it.

- As we just established, there was no "gunfight". If the cop didn't even see the exchange, there's no reason they wouldn't allow you to leave. They'd likely ask for a statement, you're under no legal obligation to stay and give one.

- You didn't shoot her. She is traumatized about it; you would have seen this play out later.

- MC is a couple nuggets short of a happy meal, as established.

- Victoria was unconscious, if I remember correctly, so there's a good chance she never even met the woman (I don't remember if it says she ever visited her or anything).

- The Bella arc is weird, or not that weird, depending on how you play it. Also, you, the main character, are kinda nuts.

I only recently even played the game (such as it is). It has great visuals but I'm not a diehard fan ready to simp for it. That said, as far as AVNs go, the plot isn't as much of a mess as you seem to think. It's pretty coherent, and more of it would have made sense if you had finished playing it out.
Thanks for this Ted talk king.
 

Srimanta

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Maybe we need a new tag for the people who expect "100% grounded in reality " games. If one decide to pick upart every other game available here,there will be only one or two that will be fully " realistic " out of millions of games.


He says that out loud. So I think that's enough to make such a scene.
Believe me mate none of them are realistic.

SG has a compelling story and god tier visuals, that's good enough for me.
 

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Consider that is what happens in the vanilla chapter 2 - it may be the case that after the rework the events play out diffrent.

* Bella crushes MC's balls during game and refuses to apologize, while expecting to continue study project with him as usual.

That happens if you pick a specific choice. After that you are in the nurse room and get some sort of ...
... handjob from the nurse - Bellas cousin/aunt(?)

The other outcome of the training is that Nika tells Bella she's beautyfull, that brings her to lose the marbles and Nika stays unhurt.
 
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WhistlerWCT

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I will attempt to address that (rather long) exposition in order.

- Your character isn't asocial, he's become antisocial and is pretty clearly suffering from extreme depression. You've isolated yourself from (most) others and become comfortable in your isolation, which leads most people to getting inside their own head. Saying the creepy weird shit out loud is odd (I also found it unusual), but people are odd.

- She was shocked, you literally just explained how weird you thought that line of thinking, much less saying it out loud, was. We don't know her exact reason for carrying, I don't recall it being gone over, but it is later established that she was already going to therapy. Maybe she was abused or attacked previously.

- People almost always hesitate to shoot another person the first time. This is an observed phenomena even in theaters of war. As we've established, your character has lost most, if not all, of his marbles so he doesn't feel like he has anything to lose by taking it from her.

- I didn't even attempt to shoot her. I did go back and check this after you said it, and... you don't shoot her. You shoot near her, and it turns out there were blanks in the gun. Why? I dunno. Maybe my previous statement about past abuse is correct and she thought the gun was enough of a deterrent so she wouldn't actually have to shoot someone. Could also further explain her hesitance because she was bluffing, the entire time, and you called her on it.

- As we just established, there was no "gunfight". If the cop didn't even see the exchange, there's no reason they wouldn't allow you to leave. They'd likely ask for a statement, you're under no legal obligation to stay and give one.

- You didn't shoot her. She is traumatized about it; you would have seen this play out later.

- MC is a couple nuggets short of a happy meal, as established.

- Victoria was unconscious, if I remember correctly, so there's a good chance she never even met the woman (I don't remember if it says she ever visited her or anything).

- The Bella arc is weird, or not that weird, depending on how you play it. Also, you, the main character, are kinda nuts.

I only recently even played the game (such as it is). It has great visuals but I'm not a diehard fan ready to simp for it. That said, as far as AVNs go, the plot isn't as much of a mess as you seem to think. It's pretty coherent, and more of it would have made sense if you had finished playing it out.
Thank you for your post. Somehow i assumed that shot landed since Marla fell down. This is totally on me.
I decided to come back to this VN after Chapter 2 gets reworked.
 
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BTW, guys, am I delirious, or was it mentioned in some recently published dev log that a new girl (with the semi-dyed hair) will be introduced in the remastered ch.2, a new possible LI? This game always make me feel like I'm under the Mandela effect :HideThePain:
 
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