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Oh, hey, it's Princess Monaco of Kent!
Seriously, though, I'd take Sasha over either of them, and she's only in the top 5.
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Seriously, though, I'd take Sasha over either of them, and she's only in the top 5.
It would be a real disapointment is Ayua wasnt a LI. There is an "ayualove" variable in the code still.
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Well, this is kinda new.. *gulps* I'm already very much terrifying of plastic surgery sheesh
- May 27, 2020
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Yeah, it would be unfair for her and her fans. Ayua's in the game since day 1
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Has anyone else had a black screen with "missing images" in red text after you visit vic at her house?
Edit.
Figured it out. Old wincest patch. Least I think that was it cause it was fixed when I updated it can restarted a new game.
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Figured it out. Old wincest patch. Least I think that was it cause it was fixed when I updated it can restarted a new game.
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- Dec 19, 2019
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Well, 45 years ago all you could do was dream up pictures of someone distant and two years older than yourself.
Today pixels make dreams come to life!
Sasha is now!
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The whole point of character growth is to show how a character has progressed throughout a story. Such a drastic change in their personalities puts into question many of their interactions within Chapter 3. They don't line up well. It doesn't make sense for their personalities at the beginning of the season to share distinct similarities with their personalities near the end of the season. Oceans will have to rewrite many things in order to bring them closer to who they are in the latest chapters. Many of the date scenes must change to fit Bella's now more grounded character. Everything up until their kiss will have to change. Their shopping scene will have to change. Their study scene will have to change. Scenes as simple as her waiting on him(while he's in therapy) in the waiting room, sitting on the chair upside-down, will have to change. Many things that made Bella, Bella, are being removed from the story with each new rework.
I get where you're coming from. The Bella from recent updates and the Bella from past updates need to be more similar on a fundamental level(how she talks and how she interacts with people - fundamental aspects). I totally get that. My main point was that their dynamic should have kept some of the edginess that made it so special/interesting in the first place—a tale of two broken souls finding comfort in each other. Before the rework, what did we know about Bella? We knew she was aggressive, unpredictable, unstable... an overall very troubled girl(not that unlike pre-rework MC). None of that is clear now. Only time will tell if this was a good moveღ
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I'm not saying they don't go through character development after they meet, but with the older version the change was too big and slightly out of character. Bella literally went from a psycho to someone who sheepishly tells Vic to "have a nice day too". Am I supposed to believe that it's all because the MC told her about Summer the day before? New Bella at least seems like someone who could have a normal conversation with someone if she really wanted to.
I went through those scenes very quickly and I found them more consistent with the reworked chapters than they were with the older version. It's just my personal opinion though so if you feel different about it that's fine with me. As far as my flow/continuity argument goes, as I said in my post, it will (or not) only come full circle when the rest of the reworked chapter is released. It should contain at least two more very important Bella scenes, so we won't really know if I had the right idea or not.
All of those scenes you mentioned were written with the more grounded version of Bella though, at least in my opinion. I mean why would, for example, the scene of her waiting during/after therapy need to change because of the rework?
Again, all of the things you mentioned are still there, they are just presented in a less edgy way. Nothing significant has changed at all, apart from the fact that the whole heist thing will seemingly be unavoidable.
For me, the best MC+Bella content came with Ch3 and beyond, with a more grounded Bella in mind, and nothing I have seen so far from the reworks seemed out of character or just off. Maybe it's just me though, I don't really know.
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Ocean is more focused on the relationship building than lewd scenes at this point in the story. I can't wait to see some scenes with Nami and Bella!
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lol looking through the files found a scene where dev photoshopped a character's head to cover nipple of a girl who just a few frames earlier flashed MC...
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Funny, tbf I'm almost 100% sure this was also included in the original version, as if this is a scene Ocean hasn't 'reworked'. And then after Vic leaves, Bella makes the joke about Vic doing 'the starfish' with MC.
I personally feel like Bella is the same, but we kinda see her behaviour 'explained'.
I remember soooo many people back in the day complaining how MC was a 'psycopath with no reason/explanation' behind it, and edgy cringy asshole that he did douchey things just because he wanted to. Same with Bella, she was just 'edgy crazy'.
Ocean made some tweaks to explain this better, as it seems he's focusing more in representing mental health issues accurately. My only beef with the changes were the removal of some scenes that made the story funny/wholesome/careful. (Victoria going for a hug, the scaping Raccoon, the ability to not mention Mario so Bella doesn't suggest stealing his heirloom, etc).
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Holy fuck, is there ONE of these fucking games that actually WORKS when released?! I just tried the latest version with and without mods and crash... unreal.
This is crash code from a straight install, no mods, sweet fuck all, just tried loading a saved game. Tried it with a mod as well, same bullshit. Man... people wait this long and then this?? It's no wonder so many complain.
This is crash code from a straight install, no mods, sweet fuck all, just tried loading a saved game. Tried it with a mod as well, same bullshit. Man... people wait this long and then this?? It's no wonder so many complain.
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 462, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in script
python hide:
File "renpy/ast.py", line 928, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2245, in py_exec_bytecode
exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 28, in <module>
python hide:
File "renpy/common/_layout/screen_main_menu.rpym", line 35, in _execute_python_hide
ui.interact()
File "renpy/ui.py", line 298, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 3325, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, pause=pause, pause_start=pause_start, **kwargs)
File "renpy/display/core.py", line 4160, in interact_core
rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1102, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/transition.py", line 48, in event
return self.new_widget.event(ev, x, y, st) # E1101
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1102, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1102, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/screen.py", line 727, in event
rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1102, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1323, in event
rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 273, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1102, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1323, in event
rv = super(Window, self).event(ev, x, y, st)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 273, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 1102, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "renpy/display/layout.py", line 273, in event
rv = d.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, st)
File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 983, in event
return handle_click(self.clicked)
File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 918, in handle_click
rv = run(action)
File "renpy/display/behavior.py", line 330, in run
return action(*args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 462, in __call__
renpy.load(fn)
File "renpy/loadsave.py", line 771, in load
log.unfreeze(roots, label="_after_load")
File "renpy/python.py", line 2200, in unfreeze
self.rollback(0, force=True, label=label, greedy=greedy, on_load=True)
File "renpy/python.py", line 2014, in rollback
self.load_failed()
File "renpy/python.py", line 1932, in load_failed
raise Exception("Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?")
Exception: Couldn't find a place to stop rolling back. Perhaps the script changed in an incompatible way?
Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.11.2266
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Team cheeto!!! Incest is fine if your partner is hot!!!
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Ok, so the art work is great, some of the characters are quite interesting, and there’s scope for a huge variety of stories here, although I have how idea how ambitious a plan the dev has. There’s a lot of suspension of disbelief needed but still, that’s doable within the context of the story.
What I don’t get is why it is necessary to have Summer, Nojiko, Naomi, Victoria, Ms Marla, Maja, Bella, Mila, Ayua, Nadia, Sonya, Amber, Coach Hill, Karen, Zara, Miss Harrison, Robin, Nia, Claire, Nancy, Cindy, Elsa, Sasha, Layla and Vanessa (phew) , all mostly pneumatic and all mostly dressed like street meat all in interactions with the MC all this early in the story. This aside from the incidental contacts with Larissa, Sylvie, Brenda, Nicole and Suki which may or may not come into play later. This all on top of an alien AI, which somehow despite coming from naked Area 51 type Aliens still looks like a human dressed in a tight fitting spacesuit, because that’s the natural design form these guys would use. We’ll defer judgment on the inexplicable need of the sentinel to explode her gigantic breasts out for our examination as an off screen heart card or something. This is an utterly ridiculous amount of girls especially given the context of the MC’s social phobias. There’s no counterbalance with guys either. Trey is almost invisible and Jeff only slightly less so. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far and it feels like there was an overwhelming push to put as many girls into place as possible as quickly as possible for no obvious reason. It’s hard to even keep them all straight, at least on first playthrough. I mean I know sometimes more is better, but I think in this situation less is more. Does anyone else find this offputting at all as they move through the story, or is it just me? Will it make paths too convoluted going forward?
Still, looking forward to the next release.
What I don’t get is why it is necessary to have Summer, Nojiko, Naomi, Victoria, Ms Marla, Maja, Bella, Mila, Ayua, Nadia, Sonya, Amber, Coach Hill, Karen, Zara, Miss Harrison, Robin, Nia, Claire, Nancy, Cindy, Elsa, Sasha, Layla and Vanessa (phew) , all mostly pneumatic and all mostly dressed like street meat all in interactions with the MC all this early in the story. This aside from the incidental contacts with Larissa, Sylvie, Brenda, Nicole and Suki which may or may not come into play later. This all on top of an alien AI, which somehow despite coming from naked Area 51 type Aliens still looks like a human dressed in a tight fitting spacesuit, because that’s the natural design form these guys would use. We’ll defer judgment on the inexplicable need of the sentinel to explode her gigantic breasts out for our examination as an off screen heart card or something. This is an utterly ridiculous amount of girls especially given the context of the MC’s social phobias. There’s no counterbalance with guys either. Trey is almost invisible and Jeff only slightly less so. Suspension of disbelief can only go so far and it feels like there was an overwhelming push to put as many girls into place as possible as quickly as possible for no obvious reason. It’s hard to even keep them all straight, at least on first playthrough. I mean I know sometimes more is better, but I think in this situation less is more. Does anyone else find this offputting at all as they move through the story, or is it just me? Will it make paths too convoluted going forward?
Still, looking forward to the next release.