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Nope, that's not often enough... I'm sure people would even then ask... Probably a non removable watermark could fix it...
It was probably a miscommunication on my side, sorry. But yes I do know about the warning. I simply prefer something more subdued, hence the file.
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So from dev log 7 (which you didn't link, you just misquoted):
"SG is around 1350 rendered images in. SG has 310 renders left in the queue, and I'd say around 450 renders are left to set up for the update to finish. (Chapter 5.)"
This meant at that point, 1350 were rendered, 310 were in the queue to be rendered and he had 450 renders to actually create (ie place the models, decide the lighting etc). What is really showing is your naivety about the process.
After that, the renders still need to be placed in the game, music needs to be laid, transitions etc. Ocean also is making a guess as to how many more renders are needed, but give or take. Anyway, there is more work involved than just renders, this is not conjecture. The pictures don't stitch themselves together seamlessly to change between different routes and choices, the overlays need to be tested, new variables need to trigger when advancing scenes. If you don't realise that, well, have fun blueballin yourself with theories.
A thirty second animation is 1800 renders at 60fps btw unless it is looped or at lower res as far as I know. If we assume 30, it's still a lot. I'm pretty sure there will be some relatively epic cliffhanger animation at the end of chapter 5 full, because you gotta leave even the haters wanting more ...to hate? I guess? Haters are just jilted anyway.
Who exactly are you saving with all your theories? What catastrophes are prevented? There's plenty of other options on this site while we wait, so I don't see how any of us are inconvenienced. This is just the internet, and we should both probably go outside and be constructive.
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Not sure why you change her but she was a very beautiful girl and the new version looks okay but the old one was a lot hotter imo.
310 which are queued for rendering as I said, 450 renders are waiting for adjustments as I said. So why are you lying and twisting words? Only Ocean did not take these 450 frames and did nothing instead, he wrote about it himself. On one side are people who repeat Ocean's words, on the other side you stand and pass off your fantasies as reality. Will your words be backed up by Ocean's so that I or someone else can believe you?
Can you try to explain where does the 30 second animation 60fps? Only big studios shoot at 60 fps and very rarely do they use it as an advertisement. For example, to sell people again a film that they sold a month earlier only at 60 fps. There is an old trick ..... at a speed of 14 fps for the human eye, all frames merge and a video is obtained. Therefore, who knows, this trick is rendered at a speed of 15-16 fps, and who does not know, it is rendered at 30 fps. As for Ocean, he does not have smooth animations, I would suggest that he does them at a speed of 10 fps or less, maybe even 8 fps.
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So from dev log 7 (which you didn't link, you just misquoted):
"SG is around 1350 rendered images in. SG has 310 renders left in the queue, and I'd say around 450 renders are left to set up for the update to finish. (Chapter 5.)"
This meant at that point, 1350 were rendered, 310 were in the queue to be rendered and he had 450 renders to actually create (ie place the models, decide the lighting etc). What is really showing is your naivety about the process.
After that, the renders still need to be placed in the game, music needs to be laid, transitions etc. Ocean also is making a guess as to how many more renders are needed, but give or take. Anyway, there is more work involved than just renders, this is not conjecture. The pictures don't stitch themselves together seamlessly to change between different routes and choices, the overlays need to be tested, new variables need to trigger when advancing scenes. If you don't realise that, well, have fun blueballin yourself with theories.
A thirty second animation is 1800 renders at 60fps btw unless it is looped or at lower res as far as I know. If we assume 30, it's still a lot. I'm pretty sure there will be some relatively epic cliffhanger animation at the end of chapter 5 full, because you gotta leave even the haters wanting more ...to hate? I guess? Haters are just jilted anyway. Indifference is the opposite.
Who exactly are you saving with all your theories? What catastrophes are prevented? There's plenty of other options while we wait, so I don't see how any of us are inconvenienced. This is just the internet, and we should both probably go outside and be constructive.
The point is the animations are extra renders, and if there are 310 renders in the cue, and 450 still being positioned and shot, Ocean isn't doing nothing, Ocean is working on the scenes yet to be made. That is the creative part, positioning the models, setting the light sources etc. SOme scenes are bigger or more critical than others, and Ocean might spend longer on lighting. It's none of my business how long Ocean takes to be happy with a scene before it's ready to render.
All you are doing is inferring nothing is going on simply because you have no idea how long it takes for a dev to stage a scene for a render, you've made a flimsy calculation based on a number of renders. You'd better buy a ticket to Germany and stand over Ocean's shoulder to explain when its okay to have a toilet break, sleep or answer email.
Regards the animations, sure they might be low frame rates. I haven't checked. There's still a tone of renders for each animation. 30 at 10 frames is still 300 renders.
Feel free to keep replying and winding yourself up over a non-event. There is no conspiracy no matter how hard you try to make one out of these numbers, because there is far more work than just render counting. I don't know why you are so obsessed by the number of renders - the number of renders does not equal the amount of work to be done. That is a very very simple equation. I'm going to stop feeding these thoughts though, it's really boring going in these circles. You do you.
I thought the original Vanessa was more attractive. The new Vanessa feels more aloof, and the heterochromia adds to the sense that she is different than the rest of us commoners.
I do have to pass on the obligatory butt plug to date her.
I also think that Vanessa was voted 'girl most likely to peg her guy' and that is an Absolute no go for my MC!!
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I think new version is much better especially her eyes...
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Vanessa's new version is much more complex then the previous one, and her different eye colors gives her a unique look.I think new version is much better especially her eyes...
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I mean, it depends on the choices you make, but Bella has a Dom route too. If you don't want to get involved in their Dom tendencies, you still can have a 'regular' relationship with them. I know that looking at Vanessa (the remade one, didn't play SG with the older one), for me, the mystery/attraction is there, and I sure won't let her have her control the MC.I thought the original Vanessa was more attractive. The new Vanessa feels more aloof, and the heterochromia adds to the sense that she is different than the rest of us commoners.
I do have to pass on the obligatory butt plug to date her.
I also think that Vanessa was voted 'girl most likely to peg her guy' and that is an Absolute no go for my MC!!
the game looks fucking good but its too much story i skipped most of it
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ocean fans be likeI'm going to disagree with you - crapping on a dev and/or his creation just to stir up shit while you hide amidst the anonymity of a pirate site is lame, at best.
Specifically - The lack of activity for 15 months and No activity ANYWHERE else on F95 makes me think this is one of multiple alt accounts that were created so you could whine and complain in anonymity.
You created your id in May 2022 and the First time you decide to post is in August of 2023... Really??
Your entire posting activity since you created your id is for Summers Gone and 100% of it is finding something you don't like while here taking Summers Gone for free.
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Your comment makes me think you are just here to stir up shit, in which case, your fun will start to disappear as you get put on the ignored list.
I suggest that you spend some time enjoying some of the many amazing creations here on F95.
If your issue is the lack of a completed tag, then just search for AVNs that are already finished - there are Many of them and some are absolutely top tier.
You might just enjoy some of them enough that your need to stir shit up here goes away...
Cheers!
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Where do you get this bizarre notion that the human eye can't see past 14 fps? I can definitely tell the difference between 60 and 144. 14 look choppy.
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Loved the game but making WiaB at the same time was a bad move for dev release times.
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But if he paid attention to things like what you say, SG would not have existed or would have been abandoned before chapter 2 came out.
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Yes, WIAB was there before, and WIAB made more money, why continue with SG? oh yes, because Ocean wants to continue with the two games.
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And not being as experienced and skilled from day one as he is now was an even worse move! He had to rework some parts later.
But actually Ocean answered this a few times.So you think he's not being completely honest here? Because if burnout is the issue, then it's not so obvious that dropping WIAB will significantly speed up the development of the SG. Instead of working on WIAB, he probably will stare at the screen, or worse, will play Baldurs Gate 3 to cooldown the burnout
Dunno about Ocean, but when I was working on my diploma project, I played HMM3 all the time. I fought burnout the best I could!
BTW, we shouldn't talk about dropping WIAB so loud, these guys from the WIAB thread are quite nervous about that