yossa999

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1) I like the MC, but he is sometimes rather inconsistent in his actions.
He is being portrayed with depression, anxiety and panic attacks. But for some reason there are moments where those things just fly out of the window for some reason.

The best example is the book club in the new update.
His reasoning for going there makes no sence to me. A person with social anxiety and no interest in books (atleast at the moment) would never go to a club where there are a bunch of strangers, just to annoy his "mom"(forgot her name). And not only that, he even starts to charm his way through all the milfs, like a fcking Bard from DnD.
The Dev tried to justify this with a panic attack at the end, but that just appears like a poor excuse for an action that does not fit the character to begin with.

I think this whole bookclub scene was just an excuse to add a bunch of milfs to the game and expose the MC to the mistery of "mom" and Amber knowing each other already.
But this thing has been addressed many times in the game. The MC constantly pushes himself out of his comfort zone, he believes that this will help him to heal and become sociable. Even Nami was worried about this and warned him not to overdo it. Just recall their conversation at the lake, and later at Nick's, where he challenged Zara to a tennis duel.
So he struggles with his social anxiety, and being around people is one way to do that.

Another funny example, a movie night with Vic and Mila, when the girls started talking about their breasts and ended up talking about the vaginas. And Nami looked at Nika with suspicion, accusing him of not complaining about the topic. He replied that one way to get out of his comfort zone is to listen to this awkward conversation:) And Nami baited him to the book club, she emphasized that Noji didn't want Nika there and piqued his curiosity.

But he clearly overdid it with socialization, after several years of loneliness and depression, he jumped too quickly into social activities, made many new acquaintances and took part in too many events. Hence the increase in the number of panic attacks and their intensity, putting aside the fact that he did not work through the underlying psychological trauma with Amber.
 

John972

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Story is a bigger part for me too(Out of my 6 top AVN's, half of them still has no actual "love-salami" scenes with their LI's). But it doesn't take a genius to guess what our batman-ryan gosling-autistic-giga chad MC thinks and does in a room filled with old rich horny mifs. In my first playthrough I was just interested in bella-nami-mila more. But if I didn't play it a second time I never would've learned noji hides a lot of shit I'll give you that. I didn't entirely skip the book club section but I basically spammed the space key most of the time.

MC being this i-can-manipulate-any-social-situtation type moody emo guy is interesting and entertaining for the most part, but tbh I find it kinda cringe in scenes where this is the sole focus. I much rather see him interact with the characters I actually care about. Of course, that's just my preference.
Yeah, I am the same. There's enough out-and-out sex-fest games on here that I don't mind the odd good-quality slow burn as well.

While, I didn't skip the book club, I realized I'd have to replay the scene and pay more attention story-wise (because Ocean's such a tease).

I am still trying to work out if Ocean slyly made the Panda and the Butterfly book and the book club discussion about it analogous to Summer's Gone and its fandom...
 
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PaxHadrian17

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I have a feeling that Zara's never had a serious relationship. Her constant training and participation in multiple sports teams monopolizes her time, and any guy who has been interested in her is probably put off by having to compete with her sports obsessions for her time as well as being intimidated by a girl who is in far better shape than he is. Nika is so into himself that nobody intimidates him and he's physically fit and competitive, all which catch Zara's attention. He's probably the first guy who she hasn't scared off, plus he reaches out to her asking for her help which reveals a vulnerability she finds endearing since everyone else sees her as threat if she's a potential competitor or standoffish in other circumstances if they don't share her passions. She is becoming a favorite girl of mine.
While I am a Bella first guy, Zara has grown to be my second favorite LI.

Ocean intertwines the paths of different LIs with information about other women that the MC may/may not become involved with. Regardless of whether or not I am interested in pursuing an LI (I like Nia, for example, but I won't pursue her as an LI), insights into other people are critical to understanding who they are today and Why they are the way they are today (like learning that Nia and Summer were good friends and that Summer's disappearance hurt Nia badly).

I adored the MC and Bella laying down to sleep together in his bed - it felt right. There was a quiet intimacy that required no sex to make it special. One of the added bonus parts of that scene was when Bella shared stories about Zara when she was little. The emotional and physical abuse that Zara endured at the hands of the egg donor, her mother who was Supposed to protect her, was a gut punch for me. The only other scene that hit me worse was the flashback of Bella being bullied by Melanie Ceril.

This insight made the following scene when the MC and Zara were playing BB with another couple much more powerful and made me feel like: GD Ocean - you are killing me here.

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PaxHadrian17

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I'm going by the dates on my saves and I tend to skip half-chapter updates like the last one was (4.5). Also simple math: first release was May 2019. 5 chapters/53 months = 10.6 month average.
I understand your point, if you don't count every non integer release, but that is one of those 'minor' points that is worth including in a post, so people don't misunderstand.

It would be like saying GOT took way too many years between releases without mentioning that you only count odd numbered season releases.

Just saying.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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did anyone manage to unpack chapter 5? UnRen says it can't find "python.exe" and just exits. I want to fix some non-ignorable bugs
 

John972

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Here is the thing, i would be more than stupid to throw money at him. Two games, four years and no considerable progress whatsoever. His Dev logs are basically always the sam excuses in different wording. You can be as gullible as you like, it's your money afterall, but not everyone throws common sense out of the window like many of the fangirls here or his patreons.
Maybe some of these so-called "fangirls" are actually the adults in the room and have enough intelligence to know the difference between different types of Devs making games on F95.

1. There are a few Devs making a lot of money from their popular game(s) that have the resources and financial security to put out either regular or large updates.

2. There are many Devs (some that have been working on their games for as long as Ocean and some that have long equally update cycles) that don't have financial security, but are still going strong, still have the passion. Ocean is one of these.

3. There are many Devs that give it a good try, give up and their games are abandoned. Sometimes, this leads to broken promises and a bit of milking before the end. This usually happens within one or two years.

4. Then there are the known Milkers.

There are many low-rent thinkers contributing to this thread that just love to accuse Ocean of being a Milker. What an absolute bunch of unmitigated crap!

When Ocean took charge of Summer's Gone all those years ago (yeah, for those that don't know, Ocean gave the game to someone else to produce originally while he worked on WIAB), he put in an explicit warning/disclaimer in the game that there would be no sex scenes for a long while.

Ocean's problems with third party providers being cagey about adult-themed material has meant he's had to shelve sexy-times completely for Season 1 of Summer's Gone. Anyone that thinks he wanted to do that rather being forced into doing that, is thinking with their cock rather than their brain.
 

PaxHadrian17

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I can understand all that, but we are in the same, when this game has explicit scenes what will happen? it will be removed from steam? or the game has become a development without future sexual scenes by steam?

I love the story and what gets to immerse the background of the characters, but if in the end it will become a +13 game, I'll leave it aside.
Season 1 is intended to reach a broad audience.

Meushi gave a great summary one post above yours.

We believe that Season 2 will have more lewd scenes and sex.

My theory - the MC/Amber trip to the cabin where he suffered some major level of trauma will start the process to heal him from the psychological trauma that seriously limits his ability to get excited for other women (he did tell Nami that he can get excited when he thinks about Summer - which of course no other woman wants to hear if he is with her).

If my theory holds, then the MC is going to start to have a sexual response to the various women around him.

This could actually be comical in some ways - like the MC getting a boner in class while giving a presentation, while lying in Amber's lap while they are in a therapy session or imagine him getting major wood while talking with the cougars at the next book club meeting - the possibilities for humor and opening the door for one off sexy time with a few cougars are Endless!!.

Ocean has All kinds of ways to play up the MC once the genie is 'uncorked' ;)

So I see Season 2 (chapters 6 - 10) being far more than rated 13+.

Believe me - it is hard to wait for the sexy time, but I absolutely believe that it will be worth it And that it will fit the story rather than trend towards Pornhub shorts.

I suspect (how I would do it if it was me) that the tags for Summers Gone will change once we start getting sexy time. If a chapter adds HJ and BJ, then I think that those tags will be added once the content includes that.

I also believe that the opening screen (blueball warning) will go away or be modified once sexy time arrives.

If a great story without sexy time is not your thing, I recommend checking back in and looking at tags/reading commentary once CH 6/6.5 is out.

There are plenty of other AVNs on F95 that have good stories and sexy time - I'm enjoying a number of them now.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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Zeniks1895

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Well,it seems that Jeff+Nami=canon
Why do you think it's canon? Nami is second most popular LI after Bella and throuple MC+Nami+Bella is possible, so most probably that would be canon. Anyway i hope Ocean is just joking about Jeff and Nami. I dont get it why in some AVN there is always some creep so called "friend" of MC who is lusting over MC's mother/sister/girlfriend. They are always piss me off.
 
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Previous chapters have revealed that the MC believes Nami's behavior in the past contributed to his current mental health (and impotency) problems. She was involved in "the incident".

In this chapter, it sounds like she deliberately and repeatedly came on to him and then cockblocked him in the past. I suspect she also flirted with other guys at high school to make the MC jealous.
Would certainly be quite interesting if they have a lengthy past history of feelings for each other and behaving the way they've behaving from the start of this game. I'm still confused about it all though. It does sometimes feel like how you describe based on what's being said or inferred but then..

Nami says "I didn't see that coming in a million years" at the beginning of the chapter. If by cockblocking him you mean she led him on, he took the bait and pursued her but then she withdrew then I don't think so based on a few dialogue. The MC says in 4.5 that there is a change in perception with her but doesn't add anything like that they are old feelings for her that are resurfacing so idk..still a bit confusing what's really going on.

Damnit. Now we've got to wait who knows how long to see some more progress and get a little bit more info.:cautious:
 
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PaxHadrian17

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5k Patreon subs = 5k Patreon suckers. Lets just say that I only pay for kinks I actually like, this doesn't even have sex in it. Hell even Nami's ass job (the best scene of the whole AVN up to now) was removed (hip hip hooray to Sancho for putting it back). So I'd probably be cutting my losses if I was foolish enough to sub.
And yet you are still paying with your time to be here and complain.

Time is a currency. If you don't believe this now, give it a few decades and you will!

BTW - I am on Subscribestar - I'm one of those 'suckers' and I can think of few VNs I'd rather invest in than Summers Gone.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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