VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[AlexFXR]

???? [I'll add that the statement above is not worthy of any response]

Here the answer is not possible due to the plot hole made by Ocean.

Average doctor's salary = approx $110,000, apparently.

Ocean makes Nojiko look like a specialist. Why do you write the average salary and not the salary of a specialist?

Compare that to Mila's family for reference...

Where can I compare this to Mila? Did you see her house or were they told their salary?

Bella or any other rich snob calling the MC "poor?" Jeez, surely you see those insults for what they are, right? It's a trope for rich people to call those not fortunate enough to have a house with five bathrooms, a swimming pool, many cars, and a holiday home in The Hamptons "poor".

I also say that Nojiko’s house is for the poor, does it mean I’m a snob too? LoL. Such a house costs a maximum of 50,000. Even with the salary you indicated, she can buy herself such a house every year and still have half her salary left.

 

[Zaraa]

When we reach the end of the first season, everything is going well, but I believe there's one issue the producer skipped for the upcoming seasons. Throughout the first season, they portrayed Bella as the Main LI, and all the cinematics were made for her throughout the season. This gained her a significant fan base, making her the majority's favorite. Bella is my second favorite, and I have no problem with that. However, if Ocean reduces Bella's content in the upcoming chapters, they may receive a serious backlash.

 

[Bombmaster]

Damn reaction limit
I've been on both sides of the debate and now prefer to watch it with popcorn in my hand. If you ask the author, he will answer you: "MC and Nami are roommates, Nojiko is their Asian landlady, topic closed." So I suspend my disbelief as much as possible on this topic and go with the flow.

Me always in the wrong side of heaven bro.. Some already read my takes in other threads with this tag in question and well.

personally I dig the drama involved,but only works if the dev makes the hard part delivering the story.

The ultimate forbidden love in a way.
Fuck corruption.

 

[AlexFXR]

Did you get the idea that Nojiko must be a specialist from this scene? I don't think we can assume her status from just one scene .

Ocean wrote the script and he makes Nojiko look better than other doctors. I have nothing to do with it.

 

[Lurcher1]

On Nojiko's wealth, she could very well be a lot more wealthy than she let's on. Take the book club throw away line from Jenna about "Maybe Nojiko did the right thing after all" after Nika mentioned that Nami doesn't take any shit either. It could be that she's chosen to go down a more humble upbringing for them. Why that could be, who knows. Maybe bring them up with humility? A promise to parents? Or trying to keep distance from drama?

On Nami and Nika, I'm beginning to think that they're not direct siblings but half siblings in some way but together, they're some sort of glue or maybe even embarrassment to a subset of the elite families. On Nami, I'm also beginning to wonder if her cute Cheeto persona she puts out hides a vicious or other devious streak. She may not pay attention as Nika does, but when it comes to navigating certain interpersonal relationships, I'm wondering if she's far more capable than she lets on in manipulating people.

 

[Bombmaster]

When we reach the end of the first season, everything is going well, but I believe there's one issue the producer skipped for the upcoming seasons. Throughout the first season, they portrayed Bella as the Main LI, and all the cinematics were made for her throughout the season. This gained her a significant fan base, making her the majority's favorite. Bella is my second favorite, and I have no problem with that. However, if Ocean reduces Bella's content in the upcoming chapters, they may receive a serious backlash.

Bella is dry humping Nika, if the story keep focused on her path they have to copulate.
changing direction with another plot like basketball or the love nest with Nami and Mila.

You need to be seen to be remembered: Zara can steal a lot of Bella's simps write this up.

Just keep them working together, Zara is naive and pure and that will make her lovable.

 

[VicLex22]

And by the way, the i-patch affects not only Nami/MC
Without the patch, Vic and Maya are also "roommates", with the same surname but "roommates". Just like in WIAB, a bunch of "roommates" gathered and all have the same surname.
And by the way, has Nami's surname ever been mentioned?
Nojiko - was Cyrus, after the rework she became Miyazaki.
MC - Cyrus
Nami - ?

 

[Zaraa]

Bella is dry humping Nika, if the story keep focused on her path they have to copulate.
changing direction with another plot like basketball or the love nest with Nami and Mila.

You need to be seen to be remembered: Zara can steal a lot of Bella's simps write this up.

Just keep them working together, Zara is naive and pure and that will make her lovable.

I think Bella and Nika are going to fall out somehow, probably Nika will make a big mistake that will anger Bella. It could be buying a motorcycle with the money he and Bella stole, it could be breaking into Bella's sister's room by mistake.

 

[Bombmaster]

On Nojiko's wealth, she could very well be a lot more wealthy than she let's on. Take the book club throw away line from Jenna about "Maybe Nojiko did the right thing after all" after Nika mentioned that Nami doesn't take any shit either. It could be that she's chosen to go down a more humble upbringing for them. Why that could be, who knows. Maybe bring them up with humility? A promise to parents? Or trying to keep distance from drama?

On Nami and Nika, I'm beginning to think that they're not direct siblings but half siblings in some way but together, they're some sort of glue or maybe even embarrassment to a subset of the elite families. On Nami, I'm also beginning to wonder if her cute Cheeto persona she puts out hides a vicious or other devious streak. She may not pay attention as Nika does, but when it comes to navigating certain interpersonal relationships, I'm wondering if she's far more capable than she lets on in manipulating people.

Vanessa and her mumbo jumbo about women sexuality, imagine if she rubs that into Nami,.the potential!
The horror.

And yes half would be chef kiss.

Edit#
About Nojiko money, is a way to keep Mc grounded in reality for us readers and in awe of Bella/big families wealth.

Don't think Ocean is going to delve on that as there is no drama to stir.
And she is ascending by marrying up already. (bringing the main family into the story without needing bella)

And we are legion theorycrafiting about the story and Ocean is only human

 

[DirtyMario]

Damn reaction limit
I've been on both sides of the debate and now prefer to watch it with popcorn in my hand. If you ask the author, he will answer you: "MC and Nami are roommates, Nojiko is their Asian landlady, topic closed." So I suspend my disbelief as much as possible on this topic and go with the flow.

You would have to suspend your disbelief at any rate. As per the

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there should not be any attraction from either side no matter what, even if they are not blood related and were just raised together.
But then again there are fucked up minds and this is just an AVN and not a research paper so we probably shouldn't overthink it.

summer gone make a lot of nice story and character I really like most of them but I don't want them to face MC or even have a conversation with him. Everyone is being nice to him but he's a jerk and this is really first AVN that I kinda hate MC. He's like Sasuke wannabe (At least Sasuke is handsome).

Nika is incredibly handsome too. His facial bone structure is immaculate and even though he went to the gym like once for 30 minutes he somehow grew an athletes body because of course he does.
But yea I agree that the setup for him being this way is incredibly weak. There's also the fact that he completely turns his personality around over the span of a week by simply being forced to talk to people. I think we can absolutely chalk it up to Ocean needing to stay PG for his steam sales master plan. Otherwise Nika surely would have found ways to "help out" an overly horny Bella/Mila/Vic/Nami grinding on him. Don't need a working wormy for that.

I hope for more Sasha content! Love that mysterious,shy,kind and tsundere vibes and she remind me of my first love at high school but I guess I have to wait like years or more I guess. and for sex I think about decade If anyone have hi-res Sasha wallpaper can you share with me pls

It's very subjective of course but IMO Sasha has one of the most attractive models in the game as far as facial features go. She has that huge scar/wound whatever it is right across her face and you don't even notice it because she's so gorgeous.
Can't wait for that story to get rolled out how she supposedly crashed 2 marriages by driving married men insane. She seems way too reserved for anything like that in her current state.

 

[yossa999]

Vanessa and her mumbo jumbo about women sexuality, imagine if she rubs that into Nami,.the potential!
The horror.

And yes half would be chef kiss.

Vanessa is scouting for talents. Nami has a lot of potential. Vic has great potential. Mila has two valuable assets and huuuuge potential. I wonder if Vanessa has her own "restaurant" franchise on the Jack&Schwartz campus ground.

 

[the_needlesss]

Hey guys,
What does McPa variable mean? I'm thinking what are the possibile outcomes in the future for its values but it's unclear to me how it it given. like breaking kiss with Mila is +2 but kissing her is +2 or +3 as well. and it's also influenced by different girls. any thoughts?

 

[Bombmaster]

Vanessa is scouting for talents. Nami has a lot of potential. Vic has great potential. Mila has two valuable assets and huuuuge potential. I wonder if Vanessa has her own "restaurant" franchise on the Jack&Schwartz campus ground.

You had to go there right. Riiiight.

What happen when you make suggestions. Yes I did go there.

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DirtyMario
Woof good read bro.

About why the attraction could work my reasoning is the trauma bond of having only one familiar love. Meshing together lover, friend and confidant the recipe for a toxic codependent and plausible relationship.

I'm glad Ocean made the decision to keep Nika from roboticaly masturbate Bella as he display lack of arousal for some psychological trauma. This would be a recipe for drama and marking a dark spot in their new relationship.

Overwhelming positive let's go feed the machin

 

[Lurcher1]

Hey guys,
What does McPa variable mean? I'm thinking what are the possibile outcomes in the future for its values but it's unclear to me how it it given. like breaking kiss with Mila is +2 but kissing her is +2 or +3 as well. and it's also influenced by different girls. any thoughts?

Suspected it's a panic attack check. Will probably start taking more effect later on if the MC pushes himself too hard

 

[yossa999]

Hey guys,
What does McPa variable mean? I'm thinking what are the possibile outcomes in the future for its values but it's unclear to me how it it given. like breaking kiss with Mila is +2 but kissing her is +2 or +3 as well. and it's also influenced by different girls. any thoughts?

The MC's panic level, I guess.

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[Bombmaster]

The MC's panic level, I guess.

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From human interaction, imput overload some psychological trigger.

The book club would be stressful for many of us functional here.

The girls pizza night made less sense for me as they are harmless and inviting.

 

[BobTheDuck]

On Nojiko's wealth, she could very well be a lot more wealthy than she let's on. Take the book club throw away line from Jenna about "Maybe Nojiko did the right thing after all" after Nika mentioned that Nami doesn't take any shit either. It could be that she's chosen to go down a more humble upbringing for them. Why that could be, who knows. Maybe bring them up with humility? A promise to parents? Or trying to keep distance from drama?

On Nami and Nika, I'm beginning to think that they're not direct siblings but half siblings in some way but together, they're some sort of glue or maybe even embarrassment to a subset of the elite families. On Nami, I'm also beginning to wonder if her cute Cheeto persona she puts out hides a vicious or other devious streak. She may not pay attention as Nika does, but when it comes to navigating certain interpersonal relationships, I'm wondering if she's far more capable than she lets on in manipulating people.

All we know of Nojiko's wealth, is that she struggles hard to make ends meet, it's a continual thing Nika mentions to Bella, there's the scene where Nami talks about her and Nika getting jobs to take the pressure off. There can be at least a hundred reasons for this, none of the reasons we know. The only thing that goes against her being a simple struggling breadwinner is the bookclub scene - she knows and is friends with Charlie, Emilia and Amber, presumably Sasha's mum as well. It'll be interesting to see if she's known at the tennis club or golf course. I like the idea you're suggesting that she's purposefully kept Nika and Nami low profile, seemingly from the start, so a good 15 years or so?

And by the way, the i-patch affects not only Nami/MC
Without the patch, Vic and Maya are also "roommates", with the same surname but "roommates". Just like in WIAB, a bunch of "roommates" gathered and all have the same surname.
And by the way, has Nami's surname ever been mentioned?
Nojiko - was Cyrus, after the rework she became Miyazaki.
MC - Cyrus
Nami - ?

If Nojiko adopted them, entirely possible they have her surname, or Cyrus is their family name and she is Miyazaki. The bit of info that says they are adopted or she is their guardian is when Nika walks with Mila in 4.5 and mentions his memory of his mom reading to him and he doesn't know if it was a dream or memory, and Mila responds with "I'm sure she was a lovely person" (past tense). But yeah, the roommate thing for the Frohn's and the Zane's is ridiculous, even if necessary.

From human interaction, imput overload some psychological trigger.

The book club would be stressful for many of us functional here.

The girls pizza night made less sense for me as they are harmless and inviting.

Harmless and inviting, but also too intense for someone that holds the world at arm's length and has major issues with personal intimacy. They got inside his comfort zone, which is threatening enough.

 

[yossa999]

From human interaction, imput overload some psychological trigger.

The book club would be stressful for many of us functional here.

The girls pizza night made less sense for me as they are harmless and inviting.

Yeah, for normal guys maybe, but for the MC, there are some one-to-one activities at girls movie night that are more stressful than detective play and snarky trolling at the book club.

 

[Bombmaster]

Yeah, for normal guys maybe, but for the MC, there are some one-to-one activities at girls movie night that are more stressful than detective play and snarky trolling at the book club.

This rare moment when you can't say Mc is literally me.

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[DirtyMario]

Either way Ocean's gotta make his mind up and should clarify what causes these panic attacks.
Is it "cheating" on Summer? Don't think so since it doesn't happen when he's with Bella.
Is it cheating on Bella? Likely, because doing stuff with other girls while you're on Bellas path makes McPa go up.
Then again Nika does nothing at all with anyone at the book club and still has an attack. The duality between playing the stoic conquerer and panicking once he's out of sight is strange too.