bobdillan

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I see what you are saying. I would hope that F95 removes incest tags from those games that do not officially have it in the game. Now, if there is an authorized or dev-created patch, that could be different.

I know that is a matter of personal opinion. I prefer to not have incest in my games, especially when it was not intended by the developer. The worst is when a patch adds it and it just doesn't fit. To be completely honest here, this game easily fits into the incest patch. I've played it both ways. It has already been mentioned above that there are lines of dialogue that make a lot more sense if you use the incest patch. I do know that Ocean has stated that this game does not and will not contain incest. And no doubt, that is why there is no tag.
Uhhhh.... I sorta get the point you're going for here... but this is a piracy forum... sooo, doesn't really apply that way.

Also... Poorly kept secret, like 90% of the games with an incest patch, it is "unnofficial" The dev makes it with an alt, or has a fan/friend do it Soooo... technically canon, but not Officially canon... cause censorship and payment...
 
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Now if there is plenty of content with patch, by all means, say so. As that is what I actually am curious about.
The patch isn't dead, simply looking at the lewdpatcher would tell you it was updated for Ch5 beta. It covers the same content as the main script.

There isn't sex in either, so shouldn't qualify for the incest tag for the same reason it doesn't have the sex tag imo.

The patch has had multiple problems over the years where changes in the main game haven't been properly applied in the patch. In the latest release there were bugs in the patch, which Sancho released hotfixes for. The patch author continues to not supply the rpyc file with it, which is one of the reasons people encounter broken saves when using it.
 
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bobdillan

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The patch has had multiple problems over the years where changes in the main game haven't been properly applied in the patch. In the latest release there were bugs in the patch, which Sancho released hotfixes for. The patch author continues to not supply the rpyc file with it, which is one of the reasons people encounter broken saves when using it.
Good to know. (should have replied in previous comment with this... my bad :S )
 

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Now, if there is an authorized or dev-created patch, that could be different.
Smart devs don't openly say they created the patch, because that would constitute evidence which could be given to Patreon to take the game down.

'Evil modders' abound, and some of them seem to be very well informed about the development of the game they're patching. Some even release their patch before the game is publicly released...
 

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Smart devs don't openly say they created the patch, because that would constitute evidence which could be given to Patreon to take the game down.

'Evil modders' abound, and some of them seem to be very well informed about the development of the game they're patching. Some even release their patch before the game is publicly released...
Yep, I've seen that. In the case of this game, the patch has to be rescripted and there are often mistakes that would be unlikely to happen if Ocean made the patch himself. Pure speculation there, but I think the reasoning is sound.
 
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This incest debate grew wings, Nika and Nami having the bond together is the important thing.

If for some reason new information explains they are just two adopted kids raised together, for some very strange reason. Fine.

Or they could share one parent, to keep with realms of belief. why cheeto is red and so on.
Damn reaction limit(y)
I've been on both sides of the debate and now prefer to watch it with popcorn in my hand. If you ask the author, he will answer you: "MC and Nami are roommates, Nojiko is their Asian landlady, topic closed." So I suspend my disbelief as much as possible on this topic and go with the flow. :ROFLMAO:
 

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To be honest, the incest patch has more of a naming problem, and would rather be called a relationship patch. Because the first season does not contain sex scenes, but many conversations between Nojiko and MC, or Nami and MC make more sense if you use the patch.
 

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???? [I'll add that the statement above is not worthy of any response]
Here the answer is not possible due to the plot hole made by Ocean.

Average doctor's salary = approx $110,000, apparently.
Ocean makes Nojiko look like a specialist. Why do you write the average salary and not the salary of a specialist?
Compare that to Mila's family for reference...
Where can I compare this to Mila? Did you see her house or were they told their salary?

Bella or any other rich snob calling the MC "poor?" Jeez, surely you see those insults for what they are, right? It's a trope for rich people to call those not fortunate enough to have a house with five bathrooms, a swimming pool, many cars, and a holiday home in The Hamptons "poor".
I also say that Nojiko’s house is for the poor, does it mean I’m a snob too? LoL. Such a house costs a maximum of 50,000. Even with the salary you indicated, she can buy herself such a house every year and still have half her salary left.
 

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When we reach the end of the first season, everything is going well, but I believe there's one issue the producer skipped for the upcoming seasons. Throughout the first season, they portrayed Bella as the Main LI, and all the cinematics were made for her throughout the season. This gained her a significant fan base, making her the majority's favorite. Bella is my second favorite, and I have no problem with that. However, if Ocean reduces Bella's content in the upcoming chapters, they may receive a serious backlash.
 
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Damn reaction limit(y)
I've been on both sides of the debate and now prefer to watch it with popcorn in my hand. If you ask the author, he will answer you: "MC and Nami are roommates, Nojiko is their Asian landlady, topic closed." So I suspend my disbelief as much as possible on this topic and go with the flow. :ROFLMAO:
Me always in the wrong side of heaven bro.. Some already read my takes in other threads with this tag in question and well.

personally I dig the drama involved,but only works if the dev makes the hard part delivering the story.

The ultimate forbidden love in a way.
Fuck corruption.
 

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On Nojiko's wealth, she could very well be a lot more wealthy than she let's on. Take the book club throw away line from Jenna about "Maybe Nojiko did the right thing after all" after Nika mentioned that Nami doesn't take any shit either. It could be that she's chosen to go down a more humble upbringing for them. Why that could be, who knows. Maybe bring them up with humility? A promise to parents? Or trying to keep distance from drama?

On Nami and Nika, I'm beginning to think that they're not direct siblings but half siblings in some way but together, they're some sort of glue or maybe even embarrassment to a subset of the elite families. On Nami, I'm also beginning to wonder if her cute Cheeto persona she puts out hides a vicious or other devious streak. She may not pay attention as Nika does, but when it comes to navigating certain interpersonal relationships, I'm wondering if she's far more capable than she lets on in manipulating people.
 

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When we reach the end of the first season, everything is going well, but I believe there's one issue the producer skipped for the upcoming seasons. Throughout the first season, they portrayed Bella as the Main LI, and all the cinematics were made for her throughout the season. This gained her a significant fan base, making her the majority's favorite. Bella is my second favorite, and I have no problem with that. However, if Ocean reduces Bella's content in the upcoming chapters, they may receive a serious backlash.
Bella is dry humping Nika, if the story keep focused on her path they have to copulate. :BootyTime:
changing direction with another plot like basketball or the love nest with Nami and Mila.

You need to be seen to be remembered: Zara can steal a lot of Bella's simps write this up.

Just keep them working together, Zara is naive and pure and that will make her lovable.
 

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And by the way, the i-patch affects not only Nami/MC
Without the patch, Vic and Maya are also "roommates", with the same surname but "roommates". Just like in WIAB, a bunch of "roommates" gathered and all have the same surname.
And by the way, has Nami's surname ever been mentioned?
Nojiko - was Cyrus, after the rework she became Miyazaki.
MC - Cyrus
Nami - ?
 

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Bella is dry humping Nika, if the story keep focused on her path they have to copulate. :BootyTime:
changing direction with another plot like basketball or the love nest with Nami and Mila.

You need to be seen to be remembered: Zara can steal a lot of Bella's simps write this up.

Just keep them working together, Zara is naive and pure and that will make her lovable.
I think Bella and Nika are going to fall out somehow, probably Nika will make a big mistake that will anger Bella. It could be buying a motorcycle with the money he and Bella stole, it could be breaking into Bella's sister's room by mistake.
 

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On Nojiko's wealth, she could very well be a lot more wealthy than she let's on. Take the book club throw away line from Jenna about "Maybe Nojiko did the right thing after all" after Nika mentioned that Nami doesn't take any shit either. It could be that she's chosen to go down a more humble upbringing for them. Why that could be, who knows. Maybe bring them up with humility? A promise to parents? Or trying to keep distance from drama?

On Nami and Nika, I'm beginning to think that they're not direct siblings but half siblings in some way but together, they're some sort of glue or maybe even embarrassment to a subset of the elite families. On Nami, I'm also beginning to wonder if her cute Cheeto persona she puts out hides a vicious or other devious streak. She may not pay attention as Nika does, but when it comes to navigating certain interpersonal relationships, I'm wondering if she's far more capable than she lets on in manipulating people.
Vanessa and her mumbo jumbo about women sexuality, imagine if she rubs that into Nami,.the potential!
The horror.

And yes half would be chef kiss.

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About Nojiko money, is a way to keep Mc grounded in reality for us readers and in awe of Bella/big families wealth.

Don't think Ocean is going to delve on that as there is no drama to stir.
And she is ascending by marrying up already. (bringing the main family into the story without needing bella)

And we are legion theorycrafiting about the story and Ocean is only human
:WeSmart:
 
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Damn reaction limit(y)
I've been on both sides of the debate and now prefer to watch it with popcorn in my hand. If you ask the author, he will answer you: "MC and Nami are roommates, Nojiko is their Asian landlady, topic closed." So I suspend my disbelief as much as possible on this topic and go with the flow. :ROFLMAO:
You would have to suspend your disbelief at any rate. As per the there should not be any attraction from either side no matter what, even if they are not blood related and were just raised together.
But then again there are fucked up minds and this is just an AVN and not a research paper so we probably shouldn't overthink it.
summer gone make a lot of nice story and character I really like most of them but I don't want them to face MC or even have a conversation with him. Everyone is being nice to him but he's a jerk and this is really first AVN that I kinda hate MC. He's like Sasuke wannabe (At least Sasuke is handsome).
Nika is incredibly handsome too. His facial bone structure is immaculate and even though he went to the gym like once for 30 minutes he somehow grew an athletes body because of course he does.
But yea I agree that the setup for him being this way is incredibly weak. There's also the fact that he completely turns his personality around over the span of a week by simply being forced to talk to people. I think we can absolutely chalk it up to Ocean needing to stay PG for his steam sales master plan. Otherwise Nika surely would have found ways to "help out" an overly horny Bella/Mila/Vic/Nami grinding on him. Don't need a working wormy for that.
I hope for more Sasha content! Love that mysterious,shy,kind and tsundere vibes and she remind me of my first love at high school but I guess I have to wait like years or more I guess. and for sex I think about decade :cry: If anyone have hi-res Sasha wallpaper can you share with me pls
It's very subjective of course but IMO Sasha has one of the most attractive models in the game as far as facial features go. She has that huge scar/wound whatever it is right across her face and you don't even notice it because she's so gorgeous.
Can't wait for that story to get rolled out how she supposedly crashed 2 marriages by driving married men insane. She seems way too reserved for anything like that in her current state.
 

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Vanessa and her mumbo jumbo about women sexuality, imagine if she rubs that into Nami,.the potential!
The horror.

And yes half would be chef kiss.
Vanessa is scouting for talents. Nami has a lot of potential. Vic has great potential. Mila has two valuable assets and huuuuge potential. I wonder if Vanessa has her own "restaurant" franchise on the Jack&Schwartz campus ground. :unsure:
 

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Hey guys,
What does McPa variable mean? I'm thinking what are the possibile outcomes in the future for its values but it's unclear to me how it it given. like breaking kiss with Mila is +2 but kissing her is +2 or +3 as well. and it's also influenced by different girls. any thoughts?
 
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