yossa999

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She was a "tool" to antagonize Nika and Nami relationship in the past, and when pursuing Nami (present)we read about something she did in high school that Nika disliked, probably influenced by this early drama.

Did she make him jealous by getting frisky with the boys? my current guess.
I think everything is not so simple between Nami and Nika and their past. Have you played Nami's route in Chapter 5? Their final dialogue when the MC kisses her is very confusing. He's afraid she's playing games with him and says their past doesn't make it any easier now as if she's done something similar in the past. He warns her that if she plays now, it will be end of any relationship between them, she will become a ghost to him. And their conversation earlier at Vic's, when he warns her he is going to tell Amber something about them. This is a vague topic, but it came up twice in Chapter 4.5.
 

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I think everything is not so simple between Nami and Nika and their past. Have you played Nami's route in Chapter 5? Their final dialogue when the MC kisses her is very confusing. He's afraid she's playing games with him and says their past doesn't make it any easier now as if she's done something similar in the past. He warns her that if she plays now, it will be end of any relationship between them, she will become a ghost to him. And their conversation earlier at Vic's, when he warns her he is going to tell Amber something about them. This is a vague topic, but it came up twice in Chapter 4.5.
Yes I did my conjecture about the past and based on this.

I do think she loves him but.
Did something to stir shit, like we know he beat up people to "protect" her.

We can be certain about Nami fears showing her true feelings, saying the words maybe as she already belive Nika choose Summer over her once.

And playing with a whore Nika you can still move foward with her in that scene.
That can only means Nami is 100% in love canon. she accepts you knowing about Bella /Mila/Vic.
 
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I don’t understand what you mean by this, can you explain in more detail?
I am saying Nojiko can be a normal doctor working in a small local hospital. and I don't think Nick is looking for the most expensive and high-class hospital after getting in an accident. I don't know where you are from, but for me, Nojiko's status is accurate for the details we know about her so far: She has a normal house, a normal car, and can afford two kids college expenses. :)
 

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I am saying Nojiko can be a normal doctor working in a small local hospital. and I don't think Nick is looking for the most expensive and high-class hospital after getting in an accident. I don't know where you are from, but for me, Nojiko's status is accurate for the details we know about her so far: She has a normal house, a normal car, and can afford two kids college expenses. :)
Do we know the size of this city our story rolls?
smaller ones have one general Hospital.

And for family feud drama works best into smaller circles.
 

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First, I am impressed and not quite sure how you did this composite. Second, I prefer the Chapter 2 body you are showing compared with the rest. Chapter 3 her waist is way too small. Chapter 5 is nice. Chapter 1 is ridiculous.
I'm quite sure that I remember Ocean himself posting this side-by-side comparision of different Milas.
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I really like this VN game. But GOD, I have a hard time relating with this MC. I get having some problems and being a little unstable. I had a really really fucked up childhood and early teens myself. Far worse than my preteen girlfriend going missing. I just don’t get the whole being completely hung up on losing a young, probably preteen girl that you think you loved. I mean, let’s just face it how many of us thought we was in love at 12 years old. The whole I have ED and can’t get a Boner because of that situation is just retarded. Not to mention the constant panic attacks in slightly stressful situations. The only way it would make sense to me is if there is something far more going on than just that situation. The MC definitely seems like he is a product of today’s youth and society. And I’ve seen 20 Somethings and younger and a lot of them are basket cases and have to have some sort of excuse for why they’re fucked up. Anyways, not being relatable to the main character aside I really think it is an enjoyable and beautifully rendered VN. I just really hope next time Bella says she’s horny. We at least offer our face as a seat for her to grind on. You can’t leave a girl you supposedly like blue vagged like that.
 

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I really like this VN game. But GOD, I have a hard time relating with this MC. I get having some problems and being a little unstable. I had a really really fucked up childhood and early teens myself. Far worse than my preteen girlfriend going missing. I just don’t get the whole being completely hung up on losing a young, probably preteen girl that you think you loved. I mean, let’s just face it how many of us thought we was in love at 12 years old. The whole I have ED and can’t get a Boner because of that situation is just retarded. Not to mention the constant panic attacks in slightly stressful situations. The only way it would make sense to me is if there is something far more going on than just that situation. The MC definitely seems like he is a product of today’s youth and society. And I’ve seen 20 Somethings and younger and a lot of them are basket cases and have to have some sort of excuse for why they’re fucked up. Anyways, not being relatable to the main character aside I really think it is an enjoyable and beautifully rendered VN. I just really hope next time Bella says she’s horny. We at least offer our face as a seat for her to grind on. You can’t leave a girl you supposedly like blue vagged like that.
It's totally fine to not be related to a certain MC. For example I still like VNs like WiAB, Deserte Stalker and BaDIK (naming the first few that came to my mind), and I can't completely relate to Willi, Zaton and Tremolo, but still play them cause they entertain me.
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Now on a lighter note, I just saw the Mila boob chart. Chapter 5 Mila already will give her a bitch of a backpain, I wonder how my girl will be able to play golf like that :(
 

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Doctors' salaries start at $200,000 and can easily exceed half a million or more. Although let's forget about this and remember the plot.
Well, that really depends on which country they live in. And if Ocean decides that they are in a country that only allows for public healthcare but not private healthcare (e.g. Canada, the land of the *gasp* maple leaf, a symbol that Ocean uses repeatedly in the game), then doctors while still enjoys a good salary, they don't make as much as you think. But like you said, let's forget about this and remember the plot.

Do you remember that Zara's father is a millionaire? Do you think he will be treated in a cheap clinic for the poor or choose the best one with professional doctors? Here's your answer.
First off, all doctors are professionals, even ones in a "cheap clinic".

Secondly, when you have a bike accident serious enough that they are talking about amputation, you don't get to choose which hospital the ambulance takes you to. (In fact you might not even be conscious at that point.) It's extremely likely that your injury demands that you are taken to the nearest available hospital to be treated asap.

Why did you decide that Nojiko lives in a middle class neighborhood? Although with all these alterations by Ocean, you probably forgot how Bella was making fun of the MC and the place where he lives.
The issue of Nojiko's financial capability is indeed a bit of a weird one.

On one hand, putting 2 kids through private college is not easy, especially for a "single mom", even if she's an MD. Also, it's possible that she had a career change and only became an MD not too many years ago, and is still paying off her own hugely expensive tuition. Granted, it's not the common scenario, but it's not unheard of neither. A fair number of doctors started out with a first career as a nurse before studying to become a doctor for a second career.

On the other hand, a non-specialist general surgeon MD shouldn't be able to override an amputation decision. That's typically a decision for the specialist on the case. And if Nojiko is already a specialist and was able to handle Nick's injury without amputation when all other doctors said it's not possible, then she should indeed be some kind of "senior figure" and it wouldn't make sense for her to be a "newbie" that is financially struggling so much that she's living in a rat-infested house.
 

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I really like this VN game. But GOD, I have a hard time relating with this MC. I get having some problems and being a little unstable. I had a really really fucked up childhood and early teens myself. Far worse than my preteen girlfriend going missing. I just don’t get the whole being completely hung up on losing a young, probably preteen girl that you think you loved. I mean, let’s just face it how many of us thought we was in love at 12 years old. The whole I have ED and can’t get a Boner because of that situation is just retarded. Not to mention the constant panic attacks in slightly stressful situations. The only way it would make sense to me is if there is something far more going on than just that situation. The MC definitely seems like he is a product of today’s youth and society. And I’ve seen 20 Somethings and younger and a lot of them are basket cases and have to have some sort of excuse for why they’re fucked up. Anyways, not being relatable to the main character aside I really think it is an enjoyable and beautifully rendered VN. I just really hope next time Bella says she’s horny. We at least offer our face as a seat for her to grind on. You can’t leave a girl you supposedly like blue vagged like that.
I kinda agree with you. I have a fucked up family and childhood too. I don't have father only mother that leaving me growing up alone for some shitty man in my 16 so I have a trust issue and feeling too scared to trust or rely on someone again because I don't want anyone to leave me again so I tend to be quiet and loner and really unstable and I really understand you and agree with you that MC can't get boner situation is stupid and lame. And almost every word that came from MC mouth is unrealisticly rude and too much. I can understand that people have an issue and can be rude,unappropiate or unstable sometime but for MC it's like always.

summer gone make a lot of nice story and character I really like most of them but I don't want them to face MC or even have a conversation with him. Everyone is being nice to him but he's a jerk and this is really first AVN that I kinda hate MC. He's like Sasuke wannabe (At least Sasuke is handsome). but it's just one part because the other part and the render are very good so I can stand it.

I hope for more Sasha content! Love that mysterious,shy,kind and tsundere vibes and she remind me of my first love at high school but I guess I have to wait like years or more I guess. and for sex I think about decade :cry: If anyone have hi-res Sasha wallpaper can you share with me pls
 
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Ottoeight

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True. And I'm sure there is a deeper meaning between the spiders, the colorful flowers and everything else at the cabin. But still that is the way the MC remembers and portrays her in his mind. Which doesn't paint her in a good light imo.

I'm sure there is a backstory which will make it make sense but still... It doesn't seem right how she just cast Nami aside like that but goes out of her way to make Nia feel better on her birthday? Idk maybe I'm wrong but as it stands right now, I strongly dislike everything I've seen from her.
Oh well, a dream is a dream. I remember I had a dream a few years ago where I had sex with a schoolmate of mine, and I'm positively sure that Nothing ever happened between me and her. I swear. Cross my heart. :D



Last time I remember it had incest tag
You got us. You're right: we're evil, so we removed the tag because we wanted to deceive you. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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