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But Ocean hasn't even finished the Full version, let alone submit it to Steam
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The raid on the Holgerson's house is to try to find a way to stop Holgerson from taking advantage of Amber and bedding her - so not a set up.
Illegal street racing - something Bella does with her friends including Ayua and Eva - so unless you are claiming that every girl who does illegal street racing is intentionally setting up their families, - no set up.
Possession of drugs at home - there was no comment made about the drugged candy being illegal - just unexpected by the MC (and Amber did not seem surprised that Bella had the drugged candy, only embarrassed that he took some accidentally) - so no set up.
If you want to find fault with Bella - have at it.
We all get our opinions about who and what she is, but I disagree that Bella is setting up Amber with any of the three activities that you mentioned.
There is a major difference, IMO, between Bella intentionally setting up Amber versus some future event taking place that puts Bella in the crosshairs of consequences due to her actions.
Can future consequences undermine Amber's reputation - OC - but that was not your original premise.
Your original premise was:
'... and without a second thought sets up her mother.'
So - again - no set up.
Cheers!!
- Mar 28, 2021
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the gummy bear had THC in it, might as well be legal where the game takes placeThe raid on the Holgerson's house is to try to find a way to stop Holgerson from taking advantage of Amber and bedding her - so not a set up.
Illegal street racing - something Bella does with her friends including Ayua and Eva - so unless you are claiming that every girl who does illegal street racing is intentionally setting up their families, - no set up.
Possession of drugs at home - there was no comment made about the drugged candy being illegal - just unexpected by the MC (and Amber did not seem surprised that Bella had the drugged candy, only embarrassed that he took some accidentally) - so no set up.
If you want to find fault with Bella - have at it.
We all get our opinions about who and what she is, but I disagree that Bella is setting up Amber with any of the three activities that you mentioned.
There is a major difference, IMO, between Bella intentionally setting up Amber versus some future event taking place that puts Bella in the crosshairs of consequences due to her actions.
Can future consequences undermine Amber's reputation - OC - but that was not your original premise.
Your original premise was:
'... and without a second thought sets up her mother.'
So - again - no set up.
Cheers!!
- Dec 5, 2020
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Probably a translation problem, I think it was meant as she didn't think about the consequences and jeopardized her mother's reputation with her actions. Because a psychologist whose daughter was arrested for breaking into someone's home and participation in illegal cars racing would probably earn a dubious reputation among potential patients.Can future consequences undermine Amber's reputation - OC - but that was not your original premise.
Your original premise was:
'... and without a second thought sets up her mother.'
So - again - no set up.
Cheers!!
But we know that Amber is not an ordinary psychologist with very... progressive methods of therapy
, which alone are enough to cast doubt on the validity of her license. So I don't believe that Bella’s adventures will somehow affect Amber’s professional reputation, and she certainly didn’t try to set her up, she loves her momma.You made me laugh. Who told you that Holgerson is going to get Amber into bed? Bella. Where did you get the idea that she was telling the truth? Just because you like her and believe her? And now for an adult. What makes you think that Amber cannot resolve the situation with Holgerson herself without the participation of two morons. The only question is whether this situation exists or whether Bella is deliberately pushing you to illegal actions.The raid on the Holgerson's house is to try to find a way to stop Holgerson from taking advantage of Amber and bedding her - so not a set up.
Illegal street racing - something Bella does with her friends including Ayua and Eva - so unless you are claiming that every girl who does illegal street racing is intentionally setting up their families, - no set up.
Possession of drugs at home - there was no comment made about the drugged candy being illegal - just unexpected by the MC (and Amber did not seem surprised that Bella had the drugged candy, only embarrassed that he took some accidentally) - so no set up.
If you want to find fault with Bella - have at it.
We all get our opinions about who and what she is, but I disagree that Bella is setting up Amber with any of the three activities that you mentioned.
There is a major difference, IMO, between Bella intentionally setting up Amber versus some future event taking place that puts Bella in the crosshairs of consequences due to her actions.
Can future consequences undermine Amber's reputation - OC - but that was not your original premise.
Your original premise was:
'... and without a second thought sets up her mother.'
So - again - no set up.
Cheers!!
I don’t understand, in your opinion, if Eva and Ayua take part in the races, do they become legal? Interesting logic.
And what comment do you need on drugs? Drugs are drugs.
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I think you may be preaching to the choir. Bella been a wild crazy bitch is part of her appeal. Pretty sure all that just make Bella's fans dicks harder, other than Nika's of course. If they wanted nice; Victoria is rolling right there
.That and looking like this:
Is going to make many dick wielders and lesbians decide the odd break in or street race ain't so bad after all.
- Dec 24, 2018
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You make a good point about the Holgersons - Bella is feeding us biased information (which is every person's habit, everyone feeds other people their own biases in every conversation, we're both doing it now). However, the only reason we know about them is because Nika mentioned he wants to do something to Mario, which only happened because he wants to get back at them for Mila (and not because he his white knighting, but because he can't stand people looking down - if they look down on Mila, they will look down on him, he's touchy about it). Without Nika mentioning wanting to mess with Mario, would Bella be doing anything? Currently in the story she is simply opportunistic if we are cynical of her motives, there is nothing that suggests she has any further motive.
My opinion is the event exists to expand on how unstable she can be, how impulsive she is, and how vindictive she can get. Bella isn't pushing Nika into illegal actions, she's amplifying his tendency for breaking rules. Otherwise, Nika would still be looking for a way to pull Mario down on his own.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the gun on her desk.
Regarding the racing, I'm guessing the speed thing is not as big a deal in Germany where there are areas without speed restrictions, so that's a bit of cultural background bias. And the drugs, well, depends where you are as to what the drugs are. I mean, Sasha was carrying drugs and gave Nika something without a prescription. Some of the angles you're arguing are very dependant on the assumed country's laws/regulations.
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I risk having everything deleted... are you sure that in Germany there are areas WITHOUT speed restrictions? I would need a confirmation of that. Also just to add that street racing is equally prosecuted because of the increased risk it represents (even in Germany).
- Dec 24, 2018
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I'm not certain, but I thought the autobahn was well known for having unlimited sections.
I'm not suggesting the racing is legal, just the the cultural weighting comes into play, like it's easier to get THC candies in some european cities than others etc.
Not a big deal, just thinking more along the lines of how some criminal activity is tolerated even though it's in breach of the law. Bella probably doesn't think of herself as a criminal but a rebel. And the cope is particularly cluesless if college students are that good at hiding their racing that strangers find out on their first day college.
I don't think you're at risk, this seems like we're talking normally about game content
- Dec 19, 2019
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There used to be parts of the Autobahn that had "free speed" but they've started to reduce/speed limit. Not sure if it's implemented everywhere.
- Sep 3, 2020
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I'm not certain, but I thought the autobahn was well known for having unlimited sections.
I'm not suggesting the racing is legal, just the the cultural weighting comes into play, like it's easier to get THC candies in some european cities than others etc.
Not a big deal, just thinking more along the lines of how some criminal activity is tolerated even though it's in breach of the law. Bella probably doesn't think of herself as a criminal but a rebel. And the cope is particularly cluesless if college students are that good at hiding their racing that strangers find out on their first day college.
I don't think you're at risk, this seems like we're talking normally about game content
In other words, if true, it would only be true for highways.(autobahn)
- Dec 24, 2018
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Yes, but also the perception of what speed is becomes different, because it is accepted in some circumstances. Same as the THC parallel - some countries it's no big deal, others it's a very big deal. Greater cultural exposure and tolerance etc.
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Very personal opinion, but both things would not be very comparable. Affecting third parties is the question, and I don't know if even being a "cultural" issue, smoking a joint at home cannot be equated with driving in risky conditions in internal streets (if they were only in highways or abandoned places, maybe it would be comparable and even then neither).
- Dec 24, 2018
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Sorry, I should mention I'm not talking about the consequences, merely the awareness. Low tolerant societies demonise the smallest infractions, more liberal societies tend to be more leniant and apathetic to the where the line is drawn, and what constitutes a transgression.
Of course the consequences are very different and not comparable at all.
It's okay to admit to faulty logic:
Your original premise was:
'... and without a second thought sets up her mother.'
So - again - no set up.
(nothing in your latest post refuted what I said BTW...)
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Now - to your current post:
I trusted what Bella said about both Mario and his father - you did not - so we disagree about Bella's intentions.
Bella knows her mother better than the MC does and, if she is concerned about someone taking advantage of Amber's better nature, again - I trust Bella's knowledge about her mother (knowing her past - which we do not currently know as the MC in SG) - so - we disagree.
If street racing is illegal - no number of women (Bella, Eva, Ayua) participating in it changes that.
You did ignore the point I was making - which is:
so unless you are claiming that every girl who does illegal street racing is intentionally setting up their families, - no set up.
Finally - re: my comment on drugs:
Possession of drugs at home - there was no comment made about the drugged candy being illegal - just unexpected by the MC (and Amber did not seem surprised that Bella had the drugged candy, only embarrassed that he took some accidentally) - so no set up.
Where I live, marihuana is legal, as is alcohol - both are drugs.
If you have a problem with drugs of any kind, That is a different issue - given your comment:
Drugs are drugs
As I said before - no set up.
Now, I accept that we disagree about Bella - Can you?
Cheers!!
So, heres a german guy, let me tell you this
:Germanys highways are called "Autobahn", which usually have 2-3 lanes per direction. On some parts of the Autobahn you have a speed-limit, usually ranging from 100-130km/h (~62-81mph), especially around interchanges and big cities. Around highway building sites u have an even lower limit around 60-80km/h.
When you drive and you see this sign
it means you can drive as fast as you want, AS LONG AS the circumstances (weather, traffic density, etc) allow to do so.
It is also expected from drivers to drive on right lanes and only switch lanes for overtaking others. So if theres three lanes and you choose to cruise with 120km/h on the middle lane permanently, and dont swerve back to the right lane when gaps are big enough, then you are driving wrong.
Germany has about 13200 kilometers of Autobahn. 57% are without speed-restrictions, while 30% have a permanent speed-limit, and 12.8% having speed-limits due to construction sites.
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You're right in everything but kph to mph conversion, 100-130 km/h are 62 - 81 mp/h...So, heres a german guy, let me tell you this
Germanys highways are called "Autobahn", which usually have 2-3 lanes per direction. On some parts of the Autobahn you have a speed-limit, usually ranging from 100-130km/h (~50-65mph), especially around interchanges and big cities. Around highway building sites u have an even lower limit around 60-80km/h.
When you drive and you see this sign
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it means you can drive as fast as you want, AS LONG AS the circumstances (weather, traffic density, etc) allow to do so.
It is also expected from drivers to drive on right lanes and only switch lanes for overtaking others. So if theres three lanes and you choose to cruise with 120km/h on the middle lane permanently, and dont swerve back to the right lane when gaps are big enough, then you are driving wrong.
Germany has about 13200 kilometers of Autobahn. 57% are without speed-restrictions, while 30% have a permanent speed-limit, and 12.8% having speed-limits due to construction sites.
And even there is no speed limits there doesn't mean that's a racetrack. Most people stay at 130 km/h...
I'm amazed at your logic. Yes, in Germany, driving on some autobahns is allowed without a speed limit. But it is movement. You can enter the autobahn and drive without a speed limit. But if you try to organize a race on the autobahn, you'll end up in jail. You're confusing driving and street racing.So, heres a german guy, let me tell you this
Germanys highways are called "Autobahn", which usually have 2-3 lanes per direction. On some parts of the Autobahn you have a speed-limit, usually ranging from 100-130km/h (~50-65mph), especially around interchanges and big cities. Around highway building sites u have an even lower limit around 60-80km/h.
When you drive and you see this sign
View attachment 3316625
it means you can drive as fast as you want, AS LONG AS the circumstances (weather, traffic density, etc) allow to do so.
It is also expected from drivers to drive on right lanes and only switch lanes for overtaking others. So if theres three lanes and you choose to cruise with 120km/h on the middle lane permanently, and dont swerve back to the right lane when gaps are big enough, then you are driving wrong.
Germany has about 13200 kilometers of Autobahn. 57% are without speed-restrictions, while 30% have a permanent speed-limit, and 12.8% having speed-limits due to construction sites.
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It's unbelievable that this myth of "Germany, the country with no speed limits on motorways" still persists. Craziness!!!
Here are a few facts from a native:
Yes, there are still a FEW places where there are no speed limits, but they are becoming fewer and fewer.
Germany is the country of construction sites. I once read that we have around 2,000-3,000 construction sites. “Free ride” -> none
Germany is the country with one of the highest risk of traffic jams, not including rush hour.
We have a recommended speed of 130 km/h in the few open places; This means that anyone who drives faster drives at their own risk. If you are involved in an accident, even if you were not at fault at all, you will be partly to blame and remain responsible for your own damages. In the case of personal injury, the whole thing goes to court: charges of “intentional intent”!!!
Forget this myth quickly!!!
Here are a few facts from a native:
Yes, there are still a FEW places where there are no speed limits, but they are becoming fewer and fewer.
Germany is the country of construction sites. I once read that we have around 2,000-3,000 construction sites. “Free ride” -> none
Germany is the country with one of the highest risk of traffic jams, not including rush hour.
We have a recommended speed of 130 km/h in the few open places; This means that anyone who drives faster drives at their own risk. If you are involved in an accident, even if you were not at fault at all, you will be partly to blame and remain responsible for your own damages. In the case of personal injury, the whole thing goes to court: charges of “intentional intent”!!!
Forget this myth quickly!!!