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[BobTheDuck]

Very personal opinion, but both things would not be very comparable. Affecting third parties is the question, and I don't know if even being a "cultural" issue, smoking a joint at home cannot be equated with driving in risky conditions in internal streets (if they were only in highways or abandoned places, maybe it would be comparable and even then neither).

Sorry, I should mention I'm not talking about the consequences, merely the awareness. Low tolerant societies demonise the smallest infractions, more liberal societies tend to be more leniant and apathetic to the where the line is drawn, and what constitutes a transgression.

Of course the consequences are very different and not comparable at all.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

You made me laugh. Who told you that Holgerson is going to get Amber into bed? Bella. Where did you get the idea that she was telling the truth? Just because you like her and believe her? And now for an adult. What makes you think that Amber cannot resolve the situation with Holgerson herself without the participation of two morons. The only question is whether this situation exists or whether Bella is deliberately pushing you to illegal actions.
I don’t understand, in your opinion, if Eva and Ayua take part in the races, do they become legal? Interesting logic.
And what comment do you need on drugs? Drugs are drugs.

It's okay to admit to faulty logic:

Your original premise was:

'... and without a second thought sets up her mother.'

So - again - no set up.

(nothing in your latest post refuted what I said BTW...)

__________________________

Now - to your current post:

I trusted what Bella said about both Mario and his father - you did not - so we disagree about Bella's intentions.

Bella knows her mother better than the MC does and, if she is concerned about someone taking advantage of Amber's better nature, again - I trust Bella's knowledge about her mother (knowing her past - which we do not currently know as the MC in SG) - so - we disagree.

If street racing is illegal - no number of women (Bella, Eva, Ayua) participating in it changes that.

You did ignore the point I was making - which is:

so unless you are claiming that every girl who does illegal street racing is intentionally setting up their families, - no set up.

Finally - re: my comment on drugs:

Possession of drugs at home - there was no comment made about the drugged candy being illegal - just unexpected by the MC (and Amber did not seem surprised that Bella had the drugged candy, only embarrassed that he took some accidentally) - so no set up.

Where I live, marihuana is legal, as is alcohol - both are drugs.

If you have a problem with drugs of any kind, That is a different issue - given your comment:

Drugs are drugs

As I said before - no set up.

Now, I accept that we disagree about Bella - Can you?

Cheers!!

 

[Honga]

I risk having everything deleted... are you sure that in Germany there are areas WITHOUT speed restrictions? I would need a confirmation of that. Also just to add that street racing is equally prosecuted because of the increased risk it represents (even in Germany).

So, heres a german guy, let me tell you this :
Germanys highways are called "Autobahn", which usually have 2-3 lanes per direction. On some parts of the Autobahn you have a speed-limit, usually ranging from 100-130km/h (~62-81mph), especially around interchanges and big cities. Around highway building sites u have an even lower limit around 60-80km/h.

When you drive and you see this sign

it means you can drive as fast as you want, AS LONG AS the circumstances (weather, traffic density, etc) allow to do so.

It is also expected from drivers to drive on right lanes and only switch lanes for overtaking others. So if theres three lanes and you choose to cruise with 120km/h on the middle lane permanently, and dont swerve back to the right lane when gaps are big enough, then you are driving wrong.

Germany has about 13200 kilometers of Autobahn. 57% are without speed-restrictions, while 30% have a permanent speed-limit, and 12.8% having speed-limits due to construction sites.

 

[rudy007]

So, heres a german guy, let me tell you this :
Germanys highways are called "Autobahn", which usually have 2-3 lanes per direction. On some parts of the Autobahn you have a speed-limit, usually ranging from 100-130km/h (~50-65mph), especially around interchanges and big cities. Around highway building sites u have an even lower limit around 60-80km/h.

When you drive and you see this sign
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it means you can drive as fast as you want, AS LONG AS the circumstances (weather, traffic density, etc) allow to do so.

It is also expected from drivers to drive on right lanes and only switch lanes for overtaking others. So if theres three lanes and you choose to cruise with 120km/h on the middle lane permanently, and dont swerve back to the right lane when gaps are big enough, then you are driving wrong.

Germany has about 13200 kilometers of Autobahn. 57% are without speed-restrictions, while 30% have a permanent speed-limit, and 12.8% having speed-limits due to construction sites.

You're right in everything but kph to mph conversion, 100-130 km/h are 62 - 81 mp/h...
And even there is no speed limits there doesn't mean that's a racetrack. Most people stay at 130 km/h...

 

[White cat6]

So, heres a german guy, let me tell you this :
Germanys highways are called "Autobahn", which usually have 2-3 lanes per direction. On some parts of the Autobahn you have a speed-limit, usually ranging from 100-130km/h (~50-65mph), especially around interchanges and big cities. Around highway building sites u have an even lower limit around 60-80km/h.

When you drive and you see this sign
View attachment 3316625
it means you can drive as fast as you want, AS LONG AS the circumstances (weather, traffic density, etc) allow to do so.

It is also expected from drivers to drive on right lanes and only switch lanes for overtaking others. So if theres three lanes and you choose to cruise with 120km/h on the middle lane permanently, and dont swerve back to the right lane when gaps are big enough, then you are driving wrong.

Germany has about 13200 kilometers of Autobahn. 57% are without speed-restrictions, while 30% have a permanent speed-limit, and 12.8% having speed-limits due to construction sites.

I'm amazed at your logic. Yes, in Germany, driving on some autobahns is allowed without a speed limit. But it is movement. You can enter the autobahn and drive without a speed limit. But if you try to organize a race on the autobahn, you'll end up in jail. You're confusing driving and street racing.

 

[minibaer12]

It's unbelievable that this myth of "Germany, the country with no speed limits on motorways" still persists. Craziness!!!

Here are a few facts from a native:
Yes, there are still a FEW places where there are no speed limits, but they are becoming fewer and fewer.

Germany is the country of construction sites. I once read that we have around 2,000-3,000 construction sites. “Free ride” -> none
Germany is the country with one of the highest risk of traffic jams, not including rush hour.
We have a recommended speed of 130 km/h in the few open places; This means that anyone who drives faster drives at their own risk. If you are involved in an accident, even if you were not at fault at all, you will be partly to blame and remain responsible for your own damages. In the case of personal injury, the whole thing goes to court: charges of “intentional intent”!!!

Forget this myth quickly!!!

 

[Tremonia]

You're right in everything but kph to mph conversion, 100-130 km/h are 62 - 81 mp/h...
And even there is no speed limits there doesn't mean that's a racetrack. Most people stay at 130 km/h...

Until you have some BMW, Audi, or Mercedes mini cock behind you.

 

[Honga]

You're right in everything but kph to mph conversion, 100-130 km/h are 62 - 81 mp/h...
And even there is no speed limits there doesn't mean that's a racetrack. Most people stay at 130 km/h...

I edited the conversion. I agree with what you say.

I'm amazed at your logic. Yes, in Germany, driving on some autobahns is allowed without a speed limit. But it is movement. You can enter the autobahn and drive without a speed limit. But if you try to organize a race on the autobahn, you'll end up in jail. You're confusing driving and street racing.

You are right, u can end up in jail if you organize a race on the autobahn or compete in street racing. Mostly because of reckless driving and endangering others.
I never said the Autobahn is a race track. It would be a boring race anyways, is goes straight ahead most of the time, with some liiight corners here and there.
Sections without speed-limits are just allowing you to DRIVE as fast as u want. It has consequences: ALWAYS check ur mirrors and keep looking who is behind you, especially the left lane. The difference in speed can be huge. I often get overtaken by cars with 250+km/h.

A classic example in germany:
You drive with lets say 130-160km/h mostly on the middle lane (cause the right lane is occupied with trucks), and you want to overtake someone who is slightly slower. You then enter the left lane accelerating even, but still someone from behind can fly towards with you 100km/h+ in speed-difference. It gets even worse when 2 trucks overtake each other (its called elephant-race in germany ), and cars driving "just" 120km/h get onto the left lane... that can end up in very dangerous situations. So, ALWAYS check your mirror.

If you are the person driving the Porsche or Lamborghini, or the sleeper-car. Always be aware that traffic can swerve onto your lane at any time and be ready to brake hard. And never drive recklessly or aggressively. German drivers are aware of that, and the systems works pretty well. The Autobahn is one of the if not the safest highway in the world.

Btw, if you want to have fun with your supercar, dont use the autobahn. Drive to Nürburgring in the Eifel and take a ride on the Nordschleife

 

[Mortarion]

Btw, if you want to have fun with your supercar, dont use the autobahn. Drive to Nürburgring in the Eifel and take a ride on the Nordschleife

This comes also with downsides, high-speed cars such as a Porsche or some Audi models record the engine speed and the sudden braking and acceleration of the vehicle. If the vehicle is still under warranty and you want to claim warranty from the dealer due to engine damage, the first thing the workshop will do is to read this memory. If this data shows that the cause of the engine damage is not normal driving behaviour but racetrack operation, the warranty is void.

With all the new vehicles with manufacturer-side gps, it is perfectly sufficient for the workshop to simply analyse the location data...

 

[rudy007]

Until you have some BMW, Audi, or Mercedes mini cock behind you.

Yes... Those who think their cook is somehow connected with their right foot, but can barely see over dashboard and look like they bite steering wheel... Well... After few years you learn... Autobahn is surprisingly pretty safe place. Like Honga already said...

 

[Honga]

This comes also with downsides, high-speed cars such as a Porsche or some Audi models record the engine speed and the sudden braking and acceleration of the vehicle. If the vehicle is still under warranty and you want to claim warranty from the dealer due to engine damage, the first thing the workshop will do is to read this memory. If this data shows that the cause of the engine damage is not normal driving behaviour but racetrack operation, the warranty is void.

With all the new vehicles with manufacturer-side gps, it is perfectly sufficient for the workshop to simply analyse the location data...

yeah, its a shame what happened to the old saying "Its a rental, dont be gentle"

 

[matschbirne]

we all take the train now

 

[minibaer12]

we all take the train now

You are absolutely right:
- are punctual like Swiss clockwork
- Never strike
- The service is excellent
- etc.

*irony off*

 

[turbojoe]

Until you have some BMW, Audi, or Mercedes mini cock behind you.

You forgot Porsches

 

[John972]

It's okay to admit to faulty logic:

Your original premise was:

'... and without a second thought sets up her mother.'

So - again - no set up.

(nothing in your latest post refuted what I said BTW...)

__________________________

Now - to your current post:

I trusted what Bella said about both Mario and his father - you did not - so we disagree about Bella's intentions.

Bella knows her mother better than the MC does and, if she is concerned about someone taking advantage of Amber's better nature, again - I trust Bella's knowledge about her mother (knowing her past - which we do not currently know as the MC in SG) - so - we disagree.

If street racing is illegal - no number of women (Bella, Eva, Ayua) participating in it changes that.

You did ignore the point I was making - which is:

so unless you are claiming that every girl who does illegal street racing is intentionally setting up their families, - no set up.

Finally - re: my comment on drugs:

Possession of drugs at home - there was no comment made about the drugged candy being illegal - just unexpected by the MC (and Amber did not seem surprised that Bella had the drugged candy, only embarrassed that he took some accidentally) - so no set up.

Where I live, marihuana is legal, as is alcohol - both are drugs.

If you have a problem with drugs of any kind, That is a different issue - given your comment:

Drugs are drugs

As I said before - no set up.

Now, I accept that we disagree about Bella - Can you?

Cheers!!

Let's not forget...

Spoiler: Bella = Keep my mothers' name out of your f**king mouth

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Bella's overreaction to Nika's comment are not the words of a daughter out to get her mother, no matter which you try to spin it.

 

[Tremonia]

You forgot Porsches

They're not the problem. The most Porsche's here are SUV's which are driven from women. Mostly wifes from lawyers or Dentists. They don't do this shit. The problem are the mini dicks on the left lane. Sometimes it's a 911, but no, they're really not the problem here.

 

[NeroZee]

Let's not forget...

Spoiler: Bella = Keep my mothers' name out of your f**king mouth

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Bella's overreaction to Nika's comment are not the words of a daughter out to get her mother, no matter which you try to spin it.

I wonder what Bella thinks about her moms pierced nipples

 

[rudy007]

I wonder what Bella thinks about her moms pierced nipples

Hot mommy?

 

[Tremonia]

I wonder what Bella thinks about her moms pierced nipples

What should she thinking? It's not uncommon. I've seen women older than her mom who have piercings.

 

[hunterashton21]

I wonder what Bella thinks about her moms pierced nipples

Wait Amber has pierced nipples?