PaxHadrian17

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So do you see she as a shy girl?
Interesting, i think she is more like flavorless, something like a serious girl, i don´t know if i´m choosing the correct words, in my language it would be "sosa" but i don´t know if that have a traduction to english.

I like Sasha, and if i´m not wrong she is russian so better for me, i always have had a thing for russian girls.

But maybe she is shy and i just don´t remember how is she, so much time without playing the game and her screentime until chapter 4 was short.
I began my description with shy but, perhaps aloof is the better word here. (She could be an introvert and she appears to be aloof/shy due to this aspect of her character). She is also clearly embarrassed about men/their intentions and, it seems that she has some reason to want to keep men at arm's length.

She's been sheltered, perhaps because of a failed attempt to kidnap/harm her (we don't know if Sasha's wound was incurred in the same kind of event that resulted in Bella's sister to be in a coma or for Summer to have disappeared).

I do need to correct my original post - she was not at the tabletop event, but rather the book club gathering.

She has her Aunt as a bodyguard at the book club gathering and, for all we know, there is/are undercover bodyguards attending ZPR, in place to help keep her safe.

We don't know how long she has been protected in this fashion but her exposure to the world seems to be controlled and influenced by her family, which helps create a bit of a hands-off vibe from her (setting aside the bodyguard aspect).

She shows empathy to the MC when she finds him starting to have a panic attack on the balcony overlooking the book club gathering and in my playthrough, she helps him with a drug (which also tells me that she carries said drug for panic attacks, likely her own - nightmares from her own physical attack perhaps??).

She is careful about what she reveals about herself and yet she risked this reveal to do a good thing for the MC.

I think Ocean will show us a bit more of Sasha's story in the coming day(s) - we are sparring with Ayua on the following day - what I take for S2 CH 1. Sasha and Ayua are also sparring partners so perhaps this sparring event will have a bit of an audience.

Beyond that, Ocean does a great job revealing layers of life's experiences that provide us a better framework for 'why' some of the LI's are the way they are now (think about what Bella shared about how Zara was treated by her mom or how Bella was bullied in middle school by Melanie Ceril and her clique).

I believe that these reveals are critical for the MC to better understand the women he is spending time with and those who are/may become LIs.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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Dessolos

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wow now i understand how some people eat shit and call it chocolate cake. my guy all the things you find interesting in those characters has to pay off in a STORY or else you are just spinning your wheels on pretty renders that does nothing without a good structure to convey a good story. in the end the characters will be waisted and suffer without a plot and story.
eh I don't agree really entirely it depends on the kind of AVN we are talking about. Sure story is important to some AVN's and some it isn't. You can have good character building / relationship building without much story at all. I find many slice of life AVN's can pull this off. So far in this AVN I have found the character building with a character like Bella great with little to no story so far , as it feels like this game's story is gonna be a slow burn story. Sure there are story elements that does help her character building but then you have characters like Nami and Zara where they arent really involved in the plot yet but have decent character building. So I cant really say story is essential to character building but it does help when done right. That's all I was trying to say character building can be more important than the story depending on what you enjoy in your games
 
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eh I don't agree really entirely it depends on the kind of AVN we are talking about. Sure story is important to some AVN's and some it isn't. You can have good character building / relationship building without much story at all. I find many slice of life AVN's can pull this off. So far in this AVN I have found the character building with a character like Bella great with little to no story so far , as it feels like this game's story is gonna be a slow burn story. Sure there are story elements that does help her character building but then you have characters like Nami and Zara where they arent really involved in the plot yet but have decent character building. So I cant really say story is essential to character building but it does help when done right. That's all I was trying to say character building can be more important than the story depending on what you enjoy in your games
damn all it takes for you to like a character is sappy backstory then. so far all those characters background mean nothing because the MC is the driver of the story and how he reacts to them and imo he is a weak protagonist in a plotless AVN.
 

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damn all it takes for you to like a character is sappy backstory then. so far all those characters background mean nothing because the MC is the driver of the story and how he reacts to them and imo he is a weak protagonist in a plotless AVN.
Well I play disconnected from MC's in basically every AVN so it's far easier for me to get attached to characters I think. As I only want to get to know them, backstory , personality and all :) of course lots of romantic hand holding and head pets
 

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I take it that's a selfie you snapped in the autumn of last year when you almost wet yourself praising Ocean's work.
AHAHA A clumsy attempt to turn the arrows on me. Everyone here knows that I am not a member of the Order of White Knights, but on the contrary, I oppose them and show everyone that they are hypocrites with double standards.

By the way, I can also declassify the secret ritual of initiation into the White Knights. :KEK:
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AHAHA A clumsy attempt to turn the arrows on me. Everyone here knows that I am not a member of the Order of White Knights, but on the contrary, I oppose them and show everyone that they are hypocrites with double standards.

By the way, I can also declassify the secret ritual of initiation into the White Knights. :KEK:
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Then I assume your initial praising was just a guise in waiting for the coming onslaught
 

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Steam is not taking too long to approve season 1? because of that I imagine that the patreon version is not published either....
 

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Steam is not taking too long to approve season 1? because of that I imagine that the patreon version is not published either....
It's not steam, it's ocean. He wanted to keep nudity minimum so that it's will be available in Germany and skipped a few steam survey questions which held up Steam review process for this long. If I'm wrong someone please correct me.

And until Season 1 is live on Steam, Ocean can't or won't release it on Patreon.
 

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Buddy, your opinion is not fact
This is not a problem, you can check it yourself, and I am sure that you will confirm my words. To do this, you need to take any ready-made scene and render it in full HD resolution and record its time. Then render the same scene only in 4k resolution and record the render time. Then you need to compare the time and you should get that full HD renders 3 times faster than 4k.
 

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You know there are other things to enjoy from a AVN than lewds and story.
Tell me honestly, do you yourself believe in all this nonsense that you write? In AVN, the most important thing is the sex scenes, if there are no sex scenes, like Ocean, then the plot comes first. And this plot should be so interesting as to compensate for the missing sex scenes and retain the audience. But not only does Ocean have no sex scenes, he also has no plot. If you come to the cinema to see the movie Transformers, and instead of it you see 2 men on the pier fishing the whole movie. You'll immediately run to the box office, angry, and complain that instead of a movie, they showed you some crap, and you'll also start demanding that your money be returned to you. Why shouldn't people complain when SG has no sex scenes or plot?

The characters so far are really well done and it's my main reason for playing this game.
Seriously? For 5 years, Ocean showed Bella and Nami more often among all the characters. He couldn’t even reveal them after all these years; there were too many questions left.
 
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Old Man Al

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well he better have a plot. this Adult Visual Novel doesn't have any adult scenes in it and the lewd scenes were all removed so this game is just a mediocre AVN might as well play doki doki literature club.
If you haven't found out there is plenty of plot yet, maybe you should play something... simplier.

This is how I view those plot searchers of SG:
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Tell me honestly, do you yourself believe in all this nonsense that you write? In AVN, the most important thing is the sex scenes, if there are no sex scenes, like Ocean, then the plot comes first. And this plot should be so interesting as to compensate for the missing sex scenes and retain the audience. But not only does Ocean have no sex scenes, he also has no plot. If you come to the cinema to see the movie Transformers, and instead of it you see 2 men on the pier fishing the whole movie. You'll immediately run to the box office, angry, and complain that instead of a movie, they showed you some crap, and you'll also start demanding that your money be returned to you. Why shouldn't people complain when SG has no sex scenes or plot?
First of all I never said people shouldn't complain about no sex scenes everyone likes different things, my point that you missed with that post was characters are just as important or more important than story or lewds depending on the player. Look people play AVN's for different reasons and like different things in AVN's. So yeah I do get sex can be important to some or plot could be more important than anything else as well it all depends on the individual everyone is completely different. So yes to me personally sex scenes are not important at all , they are just a bonus and something nice to look at. I do understand im probably one of the rare ones that play these games that doesn't look for the porn or sex.

Now im not saying plot isn't important for this game and I do agree there isn't much plot yet as this game feels like a slow burn story mixed with slice of life. To me plot isn't nearly as important as character and romance building. I play AVN's for the characters not the plot or sex. The order of important to me is personal enjoyment , character / relationship building , story everything else is secondary.

Seriously? For 5 years, Ocean showed Bella and Nami more often among all the characters. He couldn’t even reveal them after all these years; there were too many questions left.
How long Ocean been making this game is irrelevant when im talking about the character development. making 5 chapters in 1/2 the time doesn't mean the character development is better. It's the writing , the dialogue and personalities of the characters and the character that makes for good or bad character development not time. Also btw I didn't say all characters. Sure I could of worded it better but clearly I was talking about the characters that have gotten some love like Bella , Nami , Zara etc. Now if I was talking about all characters then yeah the character development is average at best as there is alot that need some love.
 
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