VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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BobTheDuck

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zack1419 said:
no i found the plot, but i just it sucks
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Genuine question: considering how long it will take to develop the next season, do you think you'll wait for it to develop in a way you like in that time frame? If it sucks for you now, what do you think will give it a 180 degree turn for you to not suck?

If you don't see how the story can develop in a direction that appeals to you, are the renders really worth your time?
 
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BobTheDuck said:
Genuine question: considering how long it will take to develop the next season, do you think you'll wait for it to develop in a way you like in that time frame? If it sucks for you now, what do you think will give it a 180 degree turn for you to not suck?

If you don't see how the story can develop in a direction that appeals to you, are the renders really worth your time?
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initially i was interested on the mystery of summer and how the story would developed around the MC, her and the other characters, but after years of reworking and the introduction other characters with their sappy background stories i find myself feeling completely at odds with this game.

ima still play it because i usually finish narratives that i start. will it get better for me idk.
 
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zack1419 said:
initially i was interested on the mystery of summer and how the story would developed around the MC, her and the other characters, but after years of reworking and the introduction other characters with their sappy background stories i find myself feeling completely at odds with this game.
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I respect that that, not that you need rendom internet approval from me.

In my opinion, the most poorly implemented part of the story is the mystery around Summer. Other parts of Nika's life have effectively distracted him to the point that he goes from dreaming about her every night and being a recluse to her just being his weird ex. It undermines the trauma aspect, and makes the trauma side feel like a random lightning strike, rather than a ball and chain he drags around.

Having said that, I expect there will be more therapy sessons soon, and I'm sure we'll get more of a sense of how some of the characters interact via Ayua's fight training. Ocean won't give us a clear explanation for Summer so early in the story, part of the process for NIka will be learning not to hide from it. But yeah, I think the spectre of Summer needed to be more prevalent to give greater weight. Things like, when with Bella, if he kisses her, he has a couple of frames flash back to Summer and he pulls away upset or something. Or when she tries to get something going he freaks out has a panic attack. Nika's basically gone from being conpletely non functional, to balanced and calm, with erratic moments like seizures instead of overwhelming trauma.
 
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AlexFXR said:
This is not a problem, you can check it yourself, and I am sure that you will confirm my words. To do this, you need to take any ready-made scene and render it in full HD resolution and record its time. Then render the same scene only in 4k resolution and record the render time. Then you need to compare the time and you should get that full HD renders 3 times faster than 4k.
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Read the message again. He already renders everything in 4k before downscaling, so it won't add anything to the existing time. If anything it'll save time because he won't have to downscale the renders to 1080p.
 
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zack1419 said:
ima still play it because i usually finish narratives that i start. will it get better for me idk.
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I feel this so much. I think this is the root as to why im able to find enjoyment and entertainment from things that are probably not really that good for alot of people. Like enjoying the character building in this game for instance. As i've had this mind set my entire life when it comes to video games , tv , movies etc etc. It really takes alot for me to say this is bad or drop something i'm getting close to 100 AVN's played since starting to play them last summer and only dropped 1 or 2 and most I enjoyed or liked to some degree.
 
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Tairnel said:
Read the message again. He already renders everything in 4k before downscaling, so it won't add anything to the existing time. If anything it'll save time because he won't have to downscale the renders to 1080p.
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I understood that Ocean was doing the entire 2nd season in 4k, but the conversation was about something else. If you didn’t know, downscale takes no more than 5 seconds, this is all the time that Ocean will save from 1 render.
 
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yossa999 said:
Summer's Gone is a college game and Lost is a series about a plane crash.
Prove me wrong!
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Nonsense - it is Plan 9 from outer space in a college setting. Sasha is clearly the alien mastermind behind all the strange stuff that happens in SG.

Oh and just for those people who are a bit on the "thinking hurts ma brain"-side:
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AlexFXR said:
I understood that Ocean was doing the entire 2nd season in 4k, but the conversation was about something else. If you didn’t know, downscale takes no more than 5 seconds, this is all the time that Ocean will save from 1 render.
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Why bother with all those technical details? There's no need for such a rant. Relax, and enjoy the game.
 
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BobTheDuck said:
I respect that that, not that you need rendom internet approval from me.

In my opinion, the most poorly implemented part of the story is the mystery around Summer. Other parts of Nika's life have effectively distracted him to the point that he goes from dreaming about her every night and being a recluse to her just being his weird ex. It undermines the trauma aspect, and makes the trauma side feel like a random lightning strike, rather than a ball and chain he drags around.

Having said that, I expect there will be more therapy sessons soon, and I'm sure we'll get more of a sense of how some of the characters interact via Ayua's fight training. Ocean won't give us a clear explanation for Summer so early in the story, part of the process for NIka will be learning not to hide from it. But yeah, I think the spectre of Summer needed to be more prevalent to give greater weight. Things like, when with Bella, if he kisses her, he has a couple of frames flash back to Summer and he pulls away upset or something. Or when she tries to get something going he freaks out has a panic attack. Nika's basically gone from being conpletely non functional, to balanced and calm, with erratic moments like seizures instead of overwhelming trauma.
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the VN has suffer because of the constant writes , re-writes and re-takes Ocean has made to the story and the characters .
the re-writes will continue as Ocean obsession with intertwine both SG and WIAB stories continue.

one thing that always make think about what Ocean thinks it's portraying but actually it's not , it's the Vic accident scene.
we know that MC's trauma has to do with the sense of loss but when Vic accident happens ; MC immediately reacts trying to help her , for Ocean the deep trauma in MC manifest by being very edgelordy .
for me the MC should've freeze right on the spot having a panic attack 'cause MC immediately will relate his sense of loss for Summer to the sense of loss anyone who loves Vic will feel , because Mc assumes that Vic is dead.
and MC should react to help Vic , not when miss Marla screams asking MC for help but at the moment MC looks Vic is moving ,
immediately knowing that she's not gone !

but what i know about writing VNs , i'm only good at punching guys with my mates !
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Mr_Mister said:
for me the MC should've freeze right on the spot having a panic attack 'cause MC immediately will relate his sense of loss for Summer to the sense of loss anyone who loves Vic will feel , because Mc assumes that Vic is dead.
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Could this be because you think the MC is an emo whiner, and that's how you imagine an emo reaction to a stressful situation?

In my opinion, MC immediately tries to help Vic because he is the type of guy who takes action rather than freezes in a shocking or stressful situation. His panic attacks are certainly not a defensive reaction to shock. And his own experience only reinforces his behaviour; he could not help Summer and unconsciously sees in this situation an opportunity to replay everything and save the girl.

But what I know about writing a VN or how people react :)
 
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