dan_roger69

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I'm missing a lot of images starting at where you meet Bella or Stay Home thru to playing basketball at the gym in class. I'm not running any mods, just straight download and run ver. 10. Any Suggestions?
If you have copied incest patch then deleted both patch files and start a new game. That worked for me on PC.
 

jllkfsdj

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We get it Pax
Yeah. I get that he's passionate about this game and about the dev, but at this point it's getting as tiring as all the doomers.

PS: yeah, Amber is hot, but she is hot for an older woman (major qualifier). Why get an old car when the new one is cheaper and it's gonna run longer and have fewer issues? And at her age health issues are gonna start popping up more and more frequently and she's getting into menopause (if she hasn't already) and that a whole new unpleasant experience for the woman AND her partner (who is literally a kid at this point and barely equipped to deal with girls his age, much less a woman as old as his mother that is past child-bearing age and should have a partner of similar maturity and life experience level to stand by her as her body goes through the major change of losing it's entire purpose of existence: ability to propagate the species). He's a kid, he should be worrying about studying, passing exams, renting hotel rooms for sex and worrying about unplanned pregnancies and then marrying and starting a family, NOT about heat flashes, depression, compromised ability to retain water, bloating, etc.

Plus, you won't ever have kids of your own if you tie your life to her and, let's be honest, most of people who I know that never had kids are seriously badly adjusted and dysfunctional (and egotistical). Really don't see appeal of cougars.

Bella is literally a hotter Amber, just MUCH younger with all her best years still ahead of her (in terms of looks, sexual health, child bearing and while still retaining her youthful and refreshing personality compared to jadedness, baggage, anger and bitterness of mature woman and divorcee), while Amber is already over the top of the hill starting on the downward slope. Unlike for Bella, life and health won't get better for her, only worse.
 
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Jacowboy

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I've been watching what used to be my favorite AVN get gutted since ch3.5 dropped years ago. I gotta hand it to Ocean, he sure knows how to drop a shittier update each and every single time. Consistency really is key I guess. Just smile through the pain :HideThePain:
Also known as "the CK method" (tm) :p
 
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I mean there will obviously have to be a "canon" wiab outcome despite our choices. Otherwise wiab variables would be needed to be implemented from the get go in SG. Im think this canon will be willy breeding the whole town while miru cheers him on lmao

I know there is NTR in wiab, but do you really think Ocean will decide to let all the Wiab-LI's be impregnated by other guys? I cant really imagine that, there would be so much hate and backslash lmao

I dont really remember how Sasha's mother looked in the old version tbh but if sasha comes after her, she shouldnt be too thick. :KEK:
Old WiaB Elena was very slim. In a rush, so I can't find one now, but basically elegant.

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Another thing indicating that Zane's and Petrova's arent enemies is how close Sasha and Ayua are. I cant help but think they feel and behave like family. Sasha is being trained in the Zane fighting gym and always scolds ayua like a big sister.

With the newest changes to the bar scene it goes even further, Sasha "orders" Dwight (who i suspected to be Sasha's brother since they arrived together at college at day 1) to take Ayua home because shes too drunk.

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And Ayua just let's it happen. I cant help but feel like they are all half-siblings (dwight and sasha being maybe full siblings). This screams family to me. Im not sure Ayua would let a random friend carry her home like that and he probably isnt her boyfriend as Sasha had to make him take Ayua home.
In former WiaB that's now not canon, Elena was the prosecution lawyer, prosecuting Willi for raping Donna Revera, or Ashley Treaster I think, depending on what choice you made. In neither case was it rape, one was staged and the other was Donna seducing you. Both Elena and Donna worked for the ultimate baddie going for the Zanes. I think part of the story of WiaB is how Willi wins them over to his side. Donna has a child with Willi, and Elena was going to be a LI I think. How much of that stays is very questionable. Regarless, Z P and R had to form a business to start/take over the college (I suspect it's the one Willi and Miru will investigate that Kat goes to); no one would start a business like that without trust. So the ZPand R do trust inherently now.

Also, Elena was a hotshot lawyer in old WiaB, so the country club being now suggests that whatever happened in WiaB decided her to potentially stop practicing law, from being someone who won over 200 cases (basically never lost).
 
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mmoprg010

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No and there is no sign for one being in the game for a long time. Hell, the dev even removed many scenes with the girls nude and ALL the scenes with the guy nude. Next rework is gonna push the game into Victorian level prudishness.

Is he trying to sell the game to the Amish, maybe?
Shit.
Thanks Bro.
 

Old Man Al

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Do you see anything resembling a bear ANYWHERE in that picture??? Do you reeeeaaaaaally wanna die on that hill???? :cautious:
Yeah, we Germans are this way. We call all paper hankerchiefs Tempo even if they are from another company, because that is the most known brand. We call all hair dryers Föhn, just because it was the brand that did most hair dryers back in the day, even if it was made by a company in Taiwan or wherever. And so on.
 

Jacowboy

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Anyways... I'm done with it, so let me just gather my thoughts a bit, but there's a few things I'll say outright:

I'm not exactly sure which songs he's trying to not lose, because like half the songs in there I've heard in BaDIK and other big games, so it's clearly not those... either way, after doing a full PT I can say with the utmost confidence that it just wasn't worth removing all the erotic moments just for a few songs that could've been replaced.

I understand the game is designed as a slow burn and it's fine, however, it only worked because Ocean had the good sense of inserting very erotic moments when needed... and some random nudity too, which by the way, is still present... it's in fact a bit puzzling as to why he chose to remove certain nude shots, but left some others... kinda feels random. Specially Bella removing her top in Ch5 all of a sudden for no reason (or rather, because he obviously removed something else in that scene)... like why even do that?

It's not surprising that Steam didn't fall for that half-assed attempt at trying to avoid the nudity/adult tag, and at that point you have to wonder why even censor anything at all... yeah, yeah, the music, whatever, it's easier to replace a track than to re-render all of those images he decided to change... I mean, whatever, that was his choice, but imo it was the wrong choice, specially considering that he's most likely not out of the hot water with the whole music thing, I suspect.

I'm gonna be honest, it felt like at least 3 or 4 erotic moments were cut out from the script in ch5 too... what I mean is that it really felt that some scenes were leading to a whole lot more and then it just doesn't happen, and it just felt odd and the scenes felt truncated, like something was missing.

Besides that, some of the reworks also resulted in narrative & visual discrepancies that SHOULD'VE been ironed-out BEFORE it got released... he'll still need to do more work on S1 as a result (or leave it as is with those mistakes, but knowing Ocean... yeah =/)... Some of the more noticeable ones were how some characters shift their appearance constantly (banana girl looks chubby at times, then thin at others... wut? I need that sudden weight-loss secret!) and of course how they reference stuff that never happens in the reworked version.

Oh, speaking of pointless changes... the 1st therapy session: Why? Dr. Mommy is still dressed inappropriately... sure, her shirt is not VERY slightly transparent anymore, now she has a huge ass cleavage that looks even sluttier that her previous shirt... soooo... :WaitWhat:

The dialogues in Ch1 and 2 also needed A LOT of polish... somewhere around ch3 they start not reading like attrocious mistranslations, but everything before that just doesn't read like proper english AT ALL... I won't comment on the extreme cringyness of the dialogues 'cause that's more of a personal taste kind of thing, but yeah, some of those dialogues between Bella & Nika are "edgy" to a point of ridiculousness... oh and by the way, repeating the word "cunt" every two seconds is NOT gonna help your game with getting a non 18+ rating... that should be obvious to anyone with any working brain-cells.

I also noticed that he removed a bunch of choices... I'm not exactly sure if those choices were all that impactful, tbh, but the problem is it feels even more Kinetic-y than before and I really don't see the point of removing those choices.

Anyways, all that to say that between all these things and the ones I mentioned before, IMO this wasn't "launch ready", or at least not how he was painting the picture. S1 is still gonna need more work, mainly to fix things that shouldn't have been changed in the first place, so the whole thing is starting to feel a bit stupid... like an excercise in futility.

And the last thing I need to ponder is: Is this even an AVN anymore? Should I just remove from my recommendation list? I mean, sure, he gutted it to shit for no reason, but there IS still a fair amount of random nudity and a whole lot of sexual talk... I mean, holy shit did he really think that was gonna fool Steam? lol... And the worst part is, there's still very much a possibility that he will end up losing his precious music rights anyways, because even IF he managed to fool everyone with S1, well S2 is supposed to be a fully R-rated game, right? Do you think the licensing companies are gonna be okay to have their songs associated with a porn "franchise" just because season 1 doesn't have hardcore sex scenes? I don't know Rick...

Imma be real, it just feels like a half-measure and half-measures are a really bad move, you need to commit one way or the other, but instead, Ocean just butchered his own game stupidly (as in he really didn't put much thought into HOW to censor it correctly once he decided to do so and just half-assed it), and in the end, pointlessly (because he clearly didn't achieve his goal... except for the music licensing thing, and again, I'm not sure he's completely avoided that problem yet)... so uhm... good job I guess? :confused:
 
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Jacowboy

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Yeah, we Germans are this way. We call all paper hankerchiefs Tempo even if they are from another company, because that is the most known brand. We call all hair dryers Föhn, just because it was the brand that did most hair dryers back in the day, even if it was made by a company in Taiwan or wherever. And so on.
Yeah everyone does that, but again, those are jelly beans... clearly... not gummy anything, let alone bears. It doesn't matter what germans say, you shouldn't make that type of blunders in a game intended for international audiences... mind you, it's a minor thing in this case, but yeah, generally speaking I mean.

Also, since you're a german, can you explain what the fuck is a "mensa"? Twice they talk about going to grab a bite "to the mensa"... I only know one MENSA and that's a whole other thing.
 

Old Man Al

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Yeah everyone does that, but again, those are jelly beans... clearly... not gummy anything, let alone bears. It doesn't matter what germans say, you shouldn't make that type of blunders in a game intended for international audiences... mind you, it's a minor thing in this case, but yeah, generally speaking I mean.

Also, since you're a german, can you explain what the fuck is a "mensa"? Twice they talk about going to grab a bite "to the mensa"... I only know one MENSA and that's a whole other thing.
Sure, a mensa is the universities canteen.
 

Jacowboy

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Sure, a mensa is the universities canteen.
Well then there you go, something else that should've been changed years ago... not even google could provide me with that answer (thanks, btw)... but then again, like I said, the first 2 chapters or so need A LOT more work in terms of translation... it's really quite bad... worse than I remembered, because they improve later on and I just forgot about how bad it is at the start.
 
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