NeroZee

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Why would i go to OT to discuss the main character of this game instead of discussing him in the thread of the game he is the main character of? Is this entire thing just so some people can shield having their feelings hurt from seeing any criticism of the game because they never visit the OT threads.
Seriously what is this baby behavior all of a sudden lol.
 

PaxHadrian17

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I don't think nika and Nami will live at nick's house as they agreed with mila to rent a student house
Right now, Ocean makes minor use of time skips.

I've posted on ways this would work in the future, so I'll not repeat that post.

I'll offer instead - that, barring a time skip, Mila said it would take a few weeks before the house is ready.

For the near future, I see Noji, Nika and Nami living at Nick's house and more MC/Zara time (Love this) and a Vanessa who spends more time at home investigating/chatting up her likely new step siblings (My MC is keeping Vanessa at arm's length and, if given the option encouraging Nami to be very careful what she shares with her).

I also think the MC and Nami will get to know and trust Nick more and I like the way he has treated Noji, Nami and the MC so far.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

yossa999

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Why would i be trolling, you yourself remember that it's a position i held since the Beta version of the game.

I mean Ocean definitely toned him down to what he used to be, he is still somewhat of a cold prick. While i dont really like his overall attitude, what i dont like it is because it works flawlessly in the game, every girl is either ok with or likes him, in reality most would just think him to be weird and anti-social.

Yea i get it he has a "idgaf" attitude "I am too cool for school man", such a fucking tryhard character, eh...

Yes i know it's a temporary condition, my problem is not his flaccid dick thats an obvious in game excuse for the outgame direction that the Ocean has taken, my problem is what happens once it's no longer flaccid.

Why are they warmed up to him? I dont wanna repeat myself but everything about him screams "I repel girls", yet they stick on him like flies to shit. But lets even ignore that, what happens when the leash is unleashed, is he gonna start fucking them left or right and if not what are we gonna do with all those girl characters? Just have them be there to tease us with something that will never happen? Its just a weird writers dichotomy that Ocean wrote himself into.

Once again you cant have him go from 0 to 100 instantly and at the same time you cant just have him go from 1 to like 3 and then maybe 8 and stop there ignoring everything else. As i said originally the pacing of this game is bad and is only about to get worse.
Come on, be consistent, if until now, in spite of everything, Ocean has fought like a lion for the blueness of people’s balls, then why do you suspect him of such a low trick as creating full-fledged porn scenes without any foreplay lasting at least a few chapters? :)

And everything in him (the MC) screams: "I push girls away," only if you really make every effort not to notice how straightforward the MC is in gaining first the attention and then the sympathy of the girls.

Okay let's put Vic aside, she’s strange and followed him from the first minutes of the game. What about the rest?

Bella - MC is the first guy who doesn't want to bed her at all, doesn't treat her like she's a psycho, seems to understand her and is capable of being her partner in crime. Exactly what she was looking for. At the same time, it is obvious that she has not had anyone for a long time and that she is clearly suffering from a lack of sex; the box is my proof.
However, continue to be an ass to her, do not admit that you and she are not so different - and she will not trust you and will not have any sexual interest in you. Everything seems fair, doesn’t it?

Nadia - at first she showed interest because MC got along with Bella, then he agreed to participate in her tabletop game and won her respect, taking seriously the passion of her life. What is there far-fetched? And by the way, she noticed that the guy goes to the gym, this may seem unexpected, but girls like athletic guys. :KEK:

Zara - there's no point in retelling the scene at Nick's house, the MC played on her competitiveness, made small gestures here and there, like when he carried her after knocking her to the ground. Taking her tennis match seriously earned her friendships. And the heart-to-heart conversation in the jacuzzi that become possible after winning the match added a certain layer of trust between them. Zara is on the hook. Of course, the fact that she turned out to be Nick's daughter is a lucky coincidence for the MC, which gave him a chance to get close to her and do his magic, but everything else seems natural.

Mila and Vic - It was enough to simply show attention to them, talk to them, take an interest in their lives, make a promise to Vic, and stand up for Mila. And now there is a trust and an invitation to a movie night. And then liquior, a relaxed atmosphere and a threesome kiss in the finale. Nika is naturally become a member of their girls-only gang.

Nia - okay, in this case it's still more the influence of the past, her friendship with Summer, long-time symphaty to the MC. All he needs to do is just treat her with understanding and not push her away just because of her weirdness.

So, in my opinion, girls behave quite naturally, they do not rush at the MC simply because he is the MC (with an exception), but allow themselves to be interested if the MC makes an effort.

And no MC now isn't a cold prick but a sarcastic dick. :p
 

Krytax123

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Come on, be consistent, if until now, in spite of everything, Ocean has fought like a lion for the blueness of people’s balls, then why do you suspect him of such a low trick as creating full-fledged porn scenes without any foreplay lasting at least a few chapters? :)

And everything in him (the MC) screams: "I push girls away," only if you really make every effort not to notice how straightforward the MC is in gaining first the attention and then the sympathy of the girls.

Okay let's put Vic aside, she’s strange and followed him from the first minutes of the game. What about the rest?

Bella - MC is the first guy who doesn't want to bed her at all, doesn't treat her like she's a psycho, seems to understand her and is capable of being her partner in crime. Exactly what she was looking for. At the same time, it is obvious that she has not had anyone for a long time and that she is clearly suffering from a lack of sex; the box is my proof.
However, continue to be an ass to her, do not admit that you and she are not so different - and she will not trust you and will not have any sexual interest in you. Everything seems fair, doesn’t it?

Nadia - at first she showed interest because MC got along with Bella, then he agreed to participate in her tabletop game and won her respect, taking seriously the passion of her life. What is there far-fetched? And by the way, she noticed that the guy goes to the gym, this may seem unexpected, but girls like athletic guys. :KEK:

Zara - there's no point in retelling the scene at Nick's house, the MC played on her competitiveness, made small gestures here and there, like when he carried her after knocking her to the ground. Taking her tennis match seriously earned her friendships. And the heart-to-heart conversation in the jacuzzi that become possible after winning the match added a certain layer of trust between them. Zara is on the hook. Of course, the fact that she turned out to be Nick's daughter is a lucky coincidence for the MC, which gave him a chance to get close to her and do his magic, but everything else seems natural.

Mila and Vic - It was enough to simply show attention to them, talk to them, take an interest in their lives, make a promise to Vic, and stand up for Mila. And now there is a trust and an invitation to a movie night. And then liquior, a relaxed atmosphere and a threesome kiss in the finale. Nika is naturally become a member of their girls-only gang.

Nia - okay, in this case it's still more the influence of the past, her friendship with Summer, long-time symphaty to the MC. All he needs to do is just treat her with understanding and not push her away just because of her weirdness.

So, in my opinion, girls behave quite naturally, they do not rush at the MC simply because he is the MC (with an exception), but allow themselves to be interested if the MC makes an effort.

And no MC now isn't a cold prick but a sarcastic dick. :p
Similar to Nia (whos obviously curious as summer couldnt shut up about nika's greatness) there is the possibility that vic doesnt just randomly followed Nika.

Considering that Nojiko knew the frohns, its possibile that they saw each other in the past already and Vic recognized him and therefore followed him.

I hope there is some reason for vics obsession, like maybe was 6yo vic in love with nika back than, because she creeps me out otherwise :ROFLMAO:
 
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yossa999

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Similar to Nia (whos obviously curious as summer couldnt shut up about nika's greatness) there is the possibility that vic doesnt just randomly followeld Nika.

Considering that Nojiko knew the frohns, its possibile that they saw each other in the past already and Vic recognized him and therefore followed him.

I hope there is some reason for vics obsession, like maybe was 6yo vic in love with nika back than, because she creeps me out otherwise :ROFLMAO:
Haha, at least now her "warm, radiant smile" doesn't look like this:
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Kakasan

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Come on, be consistent, if until now, in spite of everything, Ocean has fought like a lion for the blueness of people’s balls, then why do you suspect him of such a low trick as creating full-fledged porn scenes without any foreplay lasting at least a few chapters? :)

And everything in him (the MC) screams: "I push girls away," only if you really make every effort not to notice how straightforward the MC is in gaining first the attention and then the sympathy of the girls.

Okay let's put Vic aside, she’s strange and followed him from the first minutes of the game. What about the rest?

Bella - MC is the first guy who doesn't want to bed her at all, doesn't treat her like she's a psycho, seems to understand her and is capable of being her partner in crime. Exactly what she was looking for. At the same time, it is obvious that she has not had anyone for a long time and that she is clearly suffering from a lack of sex; the box is my proof.
However, continue to be an ass to her, do not admit that you and she are not so different - and she will not trust you and will not have any sexual interest in you. Everything seems fair, doesn’t it?

Nadia - at first she showed interest because MC got along with Bella, then he agreed to participate in her tabletop game and won her respect, taking seriously the passion of her life. What is there far-fetched? And by the way, she noticed that the guy goes to the gym, this may seem unexpected, but girls like athletic guys. :KEK:

Zara - there's no point in retelling the scene at Nick's house, the MC played on her competitiveness, made small gestures here and there, like when he carried her after knocking her to the ground. Taking her tennis match seriously earned her friendships. And the heart-to-heart conversation in the jacuzzi that become possible after winning the match added a certain layer of trust between them. Zara is on the hook. Of course, the fact that she turned out to be Nick's daughter is a lucky coincidence for the MC, which gave him a chance to get close to her and do his magic, but everything else seems natural.

Mila and Vic - It was enough to simply show attention to them, talk to them, take an interest in their lives, make a promise to Vic, and stand up for Mila. And now there is a trust and an invitation to a movie night. And then liquior, a relaxed atmosphere and a threesome kiss in the finale. Nika is naturally become a member of their girls-only gang.

Nia - okay, in this case it's still more the influence of the past, her friendship with Summer, long-time symphaty to the MC. All he needs to do is just treat her with understanding and not push her away just because of her weirdness.

So, in my opinion, girls behave quite naturally, they do not rush at the MC simply because he is the MC (with an exception), but allow themselves to be interested if the MC makes an effort.

And no MC now isn't a cold prick but a sarcastic dick. :p
There are several funny scenes with Zara, first Nika doesn't to go to the gym, after some bad choices, they go to play tennis and because of Nika they lose because he is out of shape
 

yossa999

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There are several funny scenes with Zara, first Nika doesn't to go to the gym, after some bad choices, they go to play tennis and because of Nika they lose because he is out of shape
Yeah, and if I remember correctly, then she refuses to tell him about her parents' divorce because she feels like she doesn't know or trust him enough.
 

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You, along with the rest of Ocean's defenders

Do you really think that anyone here cares about your words
Am I defending him? where did I, in my post, defend Ocean? please, show me. Why am I gonna beat a dead dog like you and most people on here? "No sex booo, I can't see the MC's DICK anymore (ha, gaaaaay)" you are one of the ones constantly bitching/complaining and yet, you remain.

If you hate it so much, why are you still here? to try and leave replies to people you assume are "defending" Ocean for what? to get some reactions because that's all you got in your sad, empty life? I was just joking with my reply but you got butthurt from it.

You need to step away from the PC and get some fresh air.

Yeah, you cared enough to reply lol.
 
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NeroZee

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Come on, be consistent, if until now, in spite of everything, Ocean has fought like a lion for the blueness of people’s balls, then why do you suspect him of such a low trick as creating full-fledged porn scenes without any foreplay lasting at least a few chapters? :)

And everything in him (the MC) screams: "I push girls away," only if you really make every effort not to notice how straightforward the MC is in gaining first the attention and then the sympathy of the girls.

Okay let's put Vic aside, she’s strange and followed him from the first minutes of the game. What about the rest?

Bella - MC is the first guy who doesn't want to bed her at all, doesn't treat her like she's a psycho, seems to understand her and is capable of being her partner in crime. Exactly what she was looking for. At the same time, it is obvious that she has not had anyone for a long time and that she is clearly suffering from a lack of sex; the box is my proof.
However, continue to be an ass to her, do not admit that you and she are not so different - and she will not trust you and will not have any sexual interest in you. Everything seems fair, doesn’t it?

Nadia - at first she showed interest because MC got along with Bella, then he agreed to participate in her tabletop game and won her respect, taking seriously the passion of her life. What is there far-fetched? And by the way, she noticed that the guy goes to the gym, this may seem unexpected, but girls like athletic guys. :KEK:

Zara - there's no point in retelling the scene at Nick's house, the MC played on her competitiveness, made small gestures here and there, like when he carried her after knocking her to the ground. Taking her tennis match seriously earned her friendships. And the heart-to-heart conversation in the jacuzzi that become possible after winning the match added a certain layer of trust between them. Zara is on the hook. Of course, the fact that she turned out to be Nick's daughter is a lucky coincidence for the MC, which gave him a chance to get close to her and do his magic, but everything else seems natural.

Mila and Vic - It was enough to simply show attention to them, talk to them, take an interest in their lives, make a promise to Vic, and stand up for Mila. And now there is a trust and an invitation to a movie night. And then liquior, a relaxed atmosphere and a threesome kiss in the finale. Nika is naturally become a member of their girls-only gang.

Nia - okay, in this case it's still more the influence of the past, her friendship with Summer, long-time symphaty to the MC. All he needs to do is just treat her with understanding and not push her away just because of her weirdness.

So, in my opinion, girls behave quite naturally, they do not rush at the MC simply because he is the MC (with an exception), but allow themselves to be interested if the MC makes an effort.

And no MC now isn't a cold prick but a sarcastic dick. :p
I get your point man but that doesnt really have much to do with why i find the MC to be so repulsive. Yea i get it why some of the girls like the MC, my point is he is a dick, you said it yourself, if we didnt play by the game rules of him being a protagonist he would literally just be alone all the time. The problem is his instant, cold, dickish attitude would repel the girls BEFORE any ofthem would even give the chance to get to know him and bond with him more.
The girls are fine themselves, they are way too forgiving and understanding if anything, the MC is just a horrible MC. Might actually be the worst one on this website with no redeeming qualities. He also takes longer to heal a wound on his mouth that he does to get completely jacked, this part isnt important its just funny.
 
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Kakasan

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I get your point man but that doesnt really have much to do with why i find the MC to be so repulsive. Yea i get it why some of the girls like the MC, my point is he is a dick, you said it yourself, if we didnt play by the game rules of him being a protagonist he would literally just be alone all the time. The problem is his instant, cold, dickish attitude would repel the girls BEFORE any ofthem would even give the chance to get to know him and bond with him more.
The girls are fine themselves, they are way too forgiving and understanding if anything, the MC is just a horrible MC. Might actually be the worst one on this website with no redeeming qualities. He also takes longer to heal a wound on his mouth that he does to get completely jacked, this part isnt important its just funny.
Nika is either gay, or attracted to minors, which is why his dick doesn't rise for women.
Even if a person has depression, the dick still rises
 
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Krytax123

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I get your point man but that doesnt really have much to do with why i find the MC to be so repulsive. Yea i get it why some of the girls like the MC, my point is he is a dick, you said it yourself, if we didnt play by the game rules of him being a protagonist he would literally just be alone all the time. The problem is his instant, cold, dickish attitude would repel the girls BEFORE any ofthem would even give the chance to get to know him and bond with him more.
The girls are fine themselves, they are way too forgiving and understanding if anything, the MC is just a horrible MC. Might actually be the worst one on this website with no redeeming qualities. He also takes longer to heal a wound on his mouth that he does to get completely jacked, this part isnt important its just funny.
lmao the worst

on a site where like 50% of the mcs are some fucking shotas or other weird perverts who are only obsessing about tits and asses in their minds 95% of the time like they are some dogs in heat.

and the other 50% are the great bland and boring, flawless whiteknight fuckers

nah thanks
 

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Genuine curiosity here since I'm not following this VN's development.
Why all this censorship to get a Steam release, when you can find SO MUCH MORE explicit content
there?
 

NeroZee

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lmao the worst

on a site where like 50% of the mcs are some fucking shotas or other weird perverts who are only obsessing about tits and asses in their minds 95% of the time like they are some dogs in heat.

and the other 50% are the great bland and boring, flawless whiteknight fuckers

nah thanks
I will be honest with you man, dont really play many games with shotas. I am 100% ok with MCs being perverts that obsess over tits and asses, what website do you think we are on? F95 might as well rename itself to tits and asses. Also this maybe a personal preference but i will 100% take a bland MC over one with an established personality of a emo, anti-social, school shooter vibe looking mofo.

One thing people dont seem to understand is when we are discussing fiction, the worst thing you can be is not a serial killer, not a genocidal maniac, not even a rapist... the worst a character can be is annoying.
 
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