VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[NeroZee]

It depends what you are looking for in a MC and what point of view you are looking at. For me this MC is one of better ones because Nika it quite different than alot of MC ive played. He knows he's fucked up and needs to change and trying to do something about so there will be some growth in his character.

As a MC that gets laid or has good traits yeah he is pretty bad but that is his character he isn't meant to be likeable. He is meant to show growth and change over time. idk I doubt this MC is going to have sex 24 / 7 even once his dick works again just seems it would be out of character for him. Since his growth is suppose to more or less be him getting over his trauma and trying to being a better human being and not a playboy.

Personally i want my MC to be a blank slate, not come in with a default pre-packaged personality especially one that clashes this much with being a likeable guy. Different doesnt always mean better.

Thats my problem i thinkk Ocean wrote himself in a corner here, the game has a ton of potential sex/romance options. The gallery alone has entries for 26 girls and that doesnt even include all of them like you have all the Milfs that we met from the last episode of which a handful of will eventually become a fuck/romance option so we are looking at the minimun of the MC potentially fucking 30+ girls in the game.

Thats why i think Ocean screwed himself over with the pacing, because how are we gonna accomplish that if the MC does not turn into a sex machine? I dont think people are prepared how weird this game is gonna be once the MCs dick starts working again, he is literally gonna go from 0 to 100 immediately.

 

[Dessolos]

Personally i want my MC to be a blank slate, not come in with a default pre-packaged personality especially one that clashes this much with being a likeable guy. Different doesnt always mean better.

Thats my problem i thinkk Ocean wrote himself in a corner here, the game has a ton of potential sex/romance options. The gallery alone has entries for 26 girls and that doesnt even include all of them like you have all the Milfs that we met from the last episode of which a handful of will eventually become a fuck/romance option so we are looking at the minimun of the MC potentially fucking 30+ girls in the game.

Thats why i think Ocean screwed himself over with the pacing, because how are we gonna accomplish that if the MC does not turn into a sex machine? I dont think people are prepared how weird this game is gonna be once the MCs dick starts working again, he is literally gonna go from 0 to 100 immediately.

idk maybe it's just me but I never once thought the MC is going to potentially have sex with everyone or even 1/2 of them just cause they are on the screen. I always kind of assumed alot of them won't be romanceable or fuckable since from what I know this isn't meant to be a harem game. That's why I don't really see him turning into a sex machine but yeah if he is going to then yeah you are right.

 

[Don Sucio]

Would this really start a war? The running joke since the game started is that the MC looks and acts like an emo loser, the dev of the game acknowledges this and has several in game jokes regarding it. Hell i dunno if most people remember but his dialogue has been tweaked quite a lot since the beginning. He used to be a much bigger asshole before, he has been toned down quite a bit though he is still fairly offputting.

Nah, not here. This is the correct thread for your question because is related with the Mc of this game.

Is just that i have seen you in the other thread and i have taken your question like a proof for later go to the other thread.

I think they will (have to) stay at nick's house for at least a week and considering we only played 5 (?) days so far, it will probably be the whole second season? I think its great to switch the housing situations up from time to time. Now we can have a lot of Zara (yay) and Vanessa and see what kind of guy Nick is.

I really want Nick and Nika to have a great relationship, Nika really needs a experienced man he can asks questions and get guideance from.

Afterwards we can move in with Mila, Nami and Robin (which will lead to more sasha too) which will be great too.

Now that you are mentioning it yeah, would make sense.

I don´t know if Ocean thinks in make times-jumps in the plot but i hope not, i´m not very fan of that. But i understand sometimes is needed.

And yeah, Nick being a good guy is important for Nika, having a father figure could be good for him.

 

[BobTheDuck]

You're insane, by the way.

And you're killing me with this curiosity!

Again, nice post, again no reacts left. I think we *mostly* see things the same, we just have different scales that we measure by.

 

[NeroZee]

idk maybe it's just me but I never once thought the MC is going to potentially have sex with everyone or even 1/2 of them just cause they are on the screen. I always kind of assumed alot of them won't be romanceable or fuckable since from what I know this isn't meant to be a harem game. That's why I don't really see him turning into a sex machine but yeah if he is going to then yeah you are right.

I mean what is the point of them having their gallery entry? Unless Ocean changes his mind at which point all those girls he teased about would just end up being only that and that would get a bunch of other people upset. The book club alone from the last episode is a massive tease that introduces a bunch of new characters many of who will clearly be fuckable, hell one of them even gets your number.

I dunno dude, as i said i dont know how Ocean is gonna write this without making a huge clusterfuck. If your theory is indeed correct and most girls are there just for show, that will cause an even bigger shitstorm lol.

 

[NeroZee]

Nah, not here. This is the correct thread for your question because is related with the Mc of this game.

Is just that i have seen you in the other thread and i have taken your question like a proof for later go to the other thread.

Now you are going off topic lol.

Anyway the point is there is little to no pushback on the MC of this game sucking ass. He is fairly terrible and his "growth" is extremely slow to non-existent so i dont expect my mind to change on him that soon, if only i didnt have to see his face that often with that ridiculous anime haircut.

 

[Prokopije]

Named_file_save.rpy and Named_file_save.rpyc

Actually, they just need to be deleted.
Your mistake was that after unpacking scripts archive, you left it in the game folder, so the deleted file "remained" in the game. That's why it didn't help you.

Well, that's new, didn't payed attention. Last time I used those unpackers (it was a while ago, can't remember which one exactly. or I mistaken it with something else?) they would clean up rpa's after extracting, but now that you said, they are indeed left behind.

 

[codex35]

Quick question, how many people think the MC of this game is one of the worst, most unrealistic MC's ever? As much as i love the game and i do love the game, i cant get over just how terrible the main character is. Coupled that with the most cock block pacing, i dunno if i can stomach seeing him turn into a Don Juan banging girls left and right once the dev removes the cocblock leash from him.

he is just sensitive young man like me

 

[AlexFXR]

Lol, I knew when you mentioned "porn in the game" you meant when they were watching porn on ze laptop. I mean, you can watch porn on your own laptop if you miss it that much. You are a silly jester. I rather focus on the main characters.

You, along with the rest of Ocean's defenders, rushed to justify the stupid act where he cut out all the scenes for adults. Do you really think that anyone here cares about your words, and if the defenders said that a porn game without adult scenes is normal, then everyone will immediately listen to you? You are hypocrites, if you don’t like porn, what are you doing on the forum of one of the porn games? Only defenders make excuses that they don’t come to a porn site for the sake of porn...... With this one phrase you are already making yourself look like idiots. This is the most stupid and pathetic attempt to justify the developer that I have ever heard.

 

[yossa999]

Quick question, how many people think the MC of this game is one of the worst, most unrealistic MC's ever? As much as i love the game and i do love the game, i cant get over just how terrible the main character is. Coupled that with the most cock block pacing, i dunno if i can stomach seeing him turn into a Don Juan banging girls left and right once the dev removes the cocblock leash from him.

One of the most interesting. He's quite unrealistic, it's true, just look at his anti-gravity haircut, but he's one of the best.

 

[NeroZee]

he is just sensitive young man like me

I think he would actually benefit from being more sensitive if anything, he is like a walking emotionless, charisma void.

One of the most interesting. He's quite unrealistic, it's true, just look at his anti-gravity haircut, but he's one of the best.

I mean in the sense that it's interesting just how much i wanna punch him in the face. His haircut has a more interesting character arc than him.

 

[Dessolos]

Honestly I like Nika's hair just because it's different and does kind of match his character imo

 

[LHDLLB]

Have seen some discussion about Bella and the Stephan, so thought about trowing my 2 cents in the conversation, the first time I played I did not give much crendice to Bella accusations about him, for me Bella was just being petty and jealous of Amber replaying it... It is possible that Stephan has involvement in what ever went down with Bella sister or worse had done something to Bella herself as a child ? Pedophilia is not a light accusation and Bella seems segure about that, not saying that she was SA but maybe he has done something to her at some point ? I don't think so but is a thought that has pop up in my mind reading Ch 2.

Still about some discussion that have seen is the thread that find interesting to discuss, at this point I am assuming that everybody know everybody except Nami and Nika, Trey might be a lost Zane or Rivera for all that I know, but more than that, everyone of power knows Nami and Nika, Vanessa know Mila for some reason, the interesting aspect of this is that there are action happening that we don't know about. The coches are plotting against the first team with Zane approvel - and a remark that in ZPR rules are a little more than guidelines - the Holgerson are framing Mila, Ceril sister is bending the law to arrest Bella and Nojiko is hiding more than we suspect we only know a fraction of what is happening and even less of what happened. I think that next chapter will shine a little more light with Auya sparing lesson, if Kate have gone out of her way to see Nami she will no lost the opportunity to interact with Nika.

Another thought that has pop up in my head - that I don't much believe in - is that we know that Nami is bissexual, maybe Nami was not in love with Nika but with Summer ? I don't think that if fit perfectly but if so the entire perception of the fandom about what happened between them are wrong, if anything is a good food for thoughts.

 

[Don Sucio]

Have seen some discussion about Bella and the Stephan, so thought about trowing my 2 cents in the conversation, the first time I played I did not give much crendice to Bella accusations about him, for me Bella was just being petty and jealous of Amber replaying it... It is possible that Stephan has involvement in what ever went down with Bella sister or worse had done something to Bella herself as a child ? Pedophilia is not a light accusation and Bella seems segure about that, not saying that she was SA but maybe he has done something to her at some point ? I don't think so but is a thought that has pop up in my mind reading Ch 2.

Still about some discussion that have seen is the thread that find interesting to discuss, at this point I am assuming that everybody know everybody except Nami and Nika, Trey might be a lost Zane or Rivera for all that I know, but more than that, everyone of power knows Nami and Nika, Vanessa know Mila for some reason, the interesting aspect of this is that there are action happening that we don't know about. The coches are plotting against the first team with Zane approvel - and a remark that in ZPR rules are a little more than guidelines - the Holgerson are framing Mila, Ceril sister is bending the law to arrest Bella and Nojiko is hiding more than we suspect we only know a fraction of what is happening and even less of what happened. I think that next chapter will shine a little more light with Auya sparing lesson, if Kate have gone out of her way to see Nami she will no lost the opportunity to interact with Nika.

Another thought that has pop up in my head - that I don't much believe in - is that we know that Nami is bissexual, maybe Nami was not in love with Nika but with Summer ? I don't think that if fit perfectly but if so the entire perception of the fandom about what happened between them are wrong, if anything is a good food for thoughts.

About the Pedophilia accusation i think is important too. My first thought is that Stephan tried something with Bella´s sister or Bella herself but they didn´t say anything to Amber for whatever reason, maybe for embarrassment, sexual agression´s victims ususally are embarrassed about what happened and don´t want to tell nothing, or scared. Or maybe Bella knows something about Stephan and a minor and she just is disgusted about that , who knows...

Nami liking Summer and not Nika is something interesting too, i didn´t think about that, but i think Nami changing her hair style and copy Summer is a proof that indicates more that Nami was trying to copy her for try to obtain Nika´s interest again, and there is the theory about Nami and Nika having some type of relationship between them , is an interesting theory too.

 

[codex35]

I don't think Stephan had anything to do with Bella's sister because if he did, Bella would have already killed Stephan.

 

[yossa999]

I mean in the sense that it's interesting just how much i wanna punch him in the face. His haircut has a more interesting character arc than him.

Oh no, I just realized you changed your username (yeah, I'm a slowpoke) and we pretty much argued about this and that during the beta.
But even if you're just trolling, I'll still answer sincere.

The dude is a pretty cool character, an asshole but not much, he is honest with people who deserve it, I admire his attitude towards girls, he treats them with a mixture of a certain amount of cynicism, irony, sincere interest, care and respect. Apparently, so that his experienced and mature personality would not be too striking, the author emphasized his teenage features too caricaturedly, maybe he even overdid. But I can live with it.

Just one example: when the girls in Chapter 4x5 assure him that he's not alone and they all want to help him, he sarcastically replies to them with a subtle smirk, "But do I even like you guys?" My dude!

I don't even want to comment on his flaccid dick, I think anyone who paid attention to the game understands that this is a temporary condition and just a plot limitation that will soon to be removed.

And Ocean doesn’t need to turn him into a Casanova, the girls seem to have already warmed up and for good reason. The dude is objectively attractive and his emo/edgelord/whatever aura is a killer for 18-19 year old girls. Let's add there that he hits the gym, maintains the reputation of a macho who fucks girls in the toilet cabin. And on top of that add that he sincerely shows interest in the personalities of girls when he communicates with them, easily gains their trust and finds the right words like Simon Baker from The Mentalist. Damn it, limpy wormy is the only thing that stops them from eating him alive.

 

[LHDLLB]

About the Pedophilia accusation i think is important too. My first thought is that Stephan tried something with Bella´s sister or Bella herself but they didn´t say anything to Amber for whatever reason, maybe for embarrassment, sexual agression´s victims ususally are embarrassed about what happened and don´t want to tell nothing, or scared. Or maybe Bella knows something about Stephan and a minor and she just is disgusted about that , who knows...

Nami liking Summer and not Nika is something interesting too, i didn´t think about that, but i think Nami changing her hair style and copy Summer is a proof that indicates more that Nami was trying to copy her for try to obtain Nika´s interest again, and there is the theory about Nami and Nika having some type of relationship between them , is an interesting theory too.

Yeah, I myself don't think much of this ideas either, maybe a little less about Bella, not of her being SA but of her knowing of something that we don't, she truly hates him to the point of now wanting to be touched in the more casual way, her problem with him goes beyond just Amber. Nami is much less believable, but I find interesting to try see the situation throughout different lens

 

[NeroZee]

Oh no, I just realized you changed your username (yeah, I'm a slowpoke) and we pretty much argued about this and that during the beta.
But even if you're just trolling, I'll still answer sincere.

The dude is a pretty cool character, an asshole but not much, he is honest with people who deserve it, I admire his attitude towards girls, he treats them with a mixture of a certain amount of cynicism, irony, sincere interest, care and respect. Apparently, so that his experienced and mature personality would not be too striking, the author emphasized his teenage features too caricaturedly, maybe he even overdid. But I can live with it.

Just one example: when the girls in Chapter 4x5 assure him that he's not alone and they all want to help him, he sarcastically replies to them with a subtle smirk, "But do I even like you guys?" My dude!

I don't even want to comment on his flaccid dick, I think anyone who paid attention to the game understands that this is a temporary condition and just a plot limitation that will soon to be removed.

And Ocean doesn’t need to turn him into a Casanova, the girls seem to have already warmed up and for good reason. The dude is objectively attractive and his emo/edgelord/whatever aura is a killer for 18-19 year old girls. Let's add there that he hits the gym, maintains the reputation of a macho who fucks girls in the toilet cabin. And on top of that add that he sincerely shows interest in the personalities of girls when he communicates with them, easily gains their trust and finds the right words like Simon Baker from The Mentalist. Damn it, limpy wormy is the only thing that stops them from eating him alive.

Why would i be trolling, you yourself remember that it's a position i held since the Beta version of the game.

I mean Ocean definitely toned him down to what he used to be, he is still somewhat of a cold prick. While i dont really like his overall attitude, what i dont like it is because it works flawlessly in the game, every girl is either ok with or likes him, in reality most would just think him to be weird and anti-social.

Yea i get it he has a "idgaf" attitude "I am too cool for school man", such a fucking tryhard character, eh...

Yes i know it's a temporary condition, my problem is not his flaccid dick thats an obvious in game excuse for the outgame direction that the Ocean has taken, my problem is what happens once it's no longer flaccid.

Why are they warmed up to him? I dont wanna repeat myself but everything about him screams "I repel girls", yet they stick on him like flies to shit. But lets even ignore that, what happens when the leash is unleashed, is he gonna start fucking them left or right and if not what are we gonna do with all those girl characters? Just have them be there to tease us with something that will never happen? Its just a weird writers dichotomy that Ocean wrote himself into.

Once again you cant have him go from 0 to 100 instantly and at the same time you cant just have him go from 1 to like 3 and then maybe 8 and stop there ignoring everything else. As i said originally the pacing of this game is bad and is only about to get worse.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I wonder if Kelly is related to Daphne they both have the same earrings. Ocean likes to throw easter eggs at us so I wonder.

 

[NeroZee]

And another....

You told me to move the discussion of the MC of this game to the appropriate thread. Now you are complaining that i am discussing the MC at all. I am not even sure what you even want exactly now?