VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[John972]

- About the charge: Seeing Jane Laverne was known as a family friend (assuming first name basis, and that Nami called her specifically), and there are two police officers in WiaB close to the Zanes, Mon and Abigail, dropping a charge could be easy if it was in any way connected to Zane interests. Dana could also have a hand, and Elena as a lawyer could have had a hand in whatever it was - but it all depends on who Noji is and who Nika is to the Zanes. It would be easy for the Zanes to make his charges disappear. For Nika to not be on the database with a dropped charge kinda hints that he's off the hook as though it never happened. Further, Laverne could be his truant officer, as Noji is their guardian in effect.

- Nice timeline! My feeling was Summer + Nika = good basketball, Summer's gone = trenchcoat and brass knuckles, figuratively. Then the violent incident = charge, recuperation = wasted muscles, and not doing anything that might get him charged again. As I'm the same, thinking Nika was at the start of high school, when he saw summer last, was when she started puberty. He never saw if Ocean gave her gigantors or not.

- regards the change from stable to anti, if he refused to take interest in basket ball, by refusing to turn up, everyone would think he was weird. The question is why no one other than Nia, Nika and Nami really cared that Summer was gone.

- regards the violent incident: it depends on whether it was a fight or someone being violent to him. ie if Summers dad beat the crap out of him (hypothetically) that would end his basketball career for the season at least. Nika doesn't need to be the instigator of the violent incident, so it can happen at any time. Most LIKELY it's as a result of his beliigerance though, and that put an end to sports, so basketball Nika = Summer's boyfriend. Also, the association of the Summer flashback with her playing basketball - maybe he avoided it after she disappeared? There's certainly negative connotations now.

- The Holgersons: seeing Zoey was Katie's GF, I didn't think there was any family connection, just connected via growing up together. Zoey wanted to start a porn company with Willi, maybe Emilia (who was Zoey's friend in the orginal WiaB I think?) was their first employee, and that's why Emilia's question of Katie is interesting at the book club? We know Zoey is still around, but are Katie and Zoey still together? THe Holgerson's had a 'paper' company in WiaB, I assumed a newspaper. Now Stefan has a golden underpants, and Katie is a fashion designer. Too little to go on so far.

- Goth girl is one of the most interesting new additions for me. I was curious about the pizza scene, but seeing her more, I really want to know. Currently I've noticed her blonde friend pays Nika a lot of attention, but Goth girl mainly looks at Nami - and I really do wonder if she's Leia's daughter. It's be a great reveal.

- I think either childhood friend or childhood 'friend'. Either works for Dwight. Boyfriend seems wrong, and I doubt he's the Revera - as if old WiaB has any truth, Donna was pregnant by Willi, and they're both dark haired without fair complexion. Jake suits as Willi has at least one brownish eye.

- Agreed about the coaching plan. I think Nika and Nami had no choice in college because of the plan. I think it was a scholarship that couldn't be refused. And yes, I think Hill was testing Nika's ability to take a hit for the team, or deal with the consequences. A star player who can't will just get bulldozed.

- LOTS of subtle changes. I'm not even going to try to work it out. This is now all there is, and if I load WIP SG, I know it's non canon. Same as WiaB - it informs intent to remember where it went, but that's no longer the entire direction.

- I will go on Nia's path most likely because fuck... he life is hard enough, being a friend is the least anyone can do. People will defend Bella while she's a criminal (street racing, gun, soft drugs, theft, vandalism), but Nia's doing something legal in most countries and people find her distasteful, her family have shut her out. Even before the reveal I felt shitty over the way Nika treated her in the gym. She and Vic are maybe the two gentlest people in the game. It might be because I know a few ex cam girls and I've seen what it did to them. It really does make them lonely once they stop, and rarely do they become successful. All that stigma, and still broke.

Nice analysis.

On the question of Summer's age when she disappeared...

Nika tells Nami that Summer's breasts were just starting to develop when he last knew her - so the onset of puberty.

I have assumed Ocean chose to use something approximating the US school system in SG - Elementary School (ages 5-10), Middle School (ages 11-13), and High School (ages 14-17). Assuming Nika's at least 18 by the start of the game, Summer's disappearance (five years prior) puts Nika's age when it happened around 13-14 years.

 

[Deleted member 6168082]

No sex boring

Get a gf or go watch porn.

I'm talking about the scene where MC and his sister were sitting watching porn at home.

Lol, I knew when you mentioned "porn in the game" you meant when they were watching porn on ze laptop. I mean, you can watch porn on your own laptop if you miss it that much. You are a silly jester. I rather focus on the main characters.

Also, someone mentioned hating or not liking that the scene with Mila smoking a cig is gone. I think the removal helped more than not. Since in the old version, your choices were (smoke the cig with her or say no and leave) this new scene works out better, to me anyways.

 

[Razrback16]

I don't think Nika is on Stefan's radar (other than as a curiosity - does he/his family matter in the games of power).

I think Vanessa is the dangerous one (from a perception and observation POV).

I think any Nika/Bella time at Nick's house when Vanessa is able to observe them will give her insights into each of them and them as a couple - insights they don't necessarily want her to have.

For now, she is neither ally nor enemy, but I think Vanessa would like it if Nika owed her favors... and he might not enjoy paying them back...

There is the couple's situation... imagine Vanessa and Mario meeting Nika and Bella at Nick's house.

Or - for more fun picture - imagine Nika and Bella naked in the jacuzzi, just talking and catching up - when suddenly Mario and Vanessa, also naked, round the corner to get in the jacuzzi.

Nika - in a quiet who of dominance - just stands up and stretches, then greets Vanessa.

Mario jumps into the hot tub and damn near drowns himself trying to hide the fact that he's using a butt plug.

Once he's 'safely' under the water, he notices that Vanessa is still standing there, fully naked, and taking her time getting under the water.

Bella's face shows that she does not like the 'show' Vanessa is giving Nika and Mario does not either.

Nika is meeting her eyes and not looking at the rest of her body, while the same cannot be said of Vanessa and then Mario notices where Vanessa is looking and ....

Ocean could have a lot of fun with a certain dichotomy between Nika and Mario if he chooses to.

Once Amber's cabin visit therapy gets Nika 'firing on all cylinders' - this dichotomy will be Much more pronounced...

Cheers!!

Hah, yeah right now Stefan doesn't give a crap. I think when suspicions begin on the Amber route that the MC and her are getting "close" he's going to have a friggin' meltdown.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Nice analysis.

On the question of Summer's age when she disappeared...

Nika tells Nami that Summer's breasts were just starting to develop when he last knew her - so the onset of puberty.

I have assumed Ocean chose to use something approximating the US school system in SG - Elementary School (ages 5-10), Middle School (ages 11-13), and High School (ages 14-17). Assuming Nika's at least 18 by the start of the game, Summer's disappearance (five years prior) puts Nika's age when it happened around 13-14 years.

Just on that, the last time Nika saw Summer, she was just growing breasts. Seeing he saw her once after the cabin, there could be a case for (Summer+Nika+basketball) > (Cabin/disappearance) > (Antisocial violent Nika) > (Sees Summer/Violent episode/charged) > (hospitalised/apathetic Nika). The last time he saw her doesn't have to be close to when she initially left his life. And what is said to Amber "I had no choice" means he was active in whatever did happen to her.

Get a gf or go watch porn.



Lol, I knew when you mentioned "porn in the game" you meant when they were watching porn on ze laptop. I mean, you can watch porn on your own laptop if you miss it that much. You are a silly jester. I rather focus on the main characters.

Also, someone mentioned hating or not liking that the scene with Mila smoking a cig is gone. I think the removal helped more than not. Since in the old version, your choices were (smoke the cig with her or say no and leave) this new scene works out better, to me anyways.

Exactly - Nami still talks about watching porn with Nika, so in essence the scene is still there just without the pixels on the laptop screen, but it shows us Nika's awkwardness and Nami's horniness better through their dialogue. And there are still cigarettes if you're on Nami's path, but they're seen as a sign of massive stress.

 

[eternum_racer]

What the difference between Summers_Gone_Chapter_5_BETA and this ?
This has more content after?
Also why doesn't show the saves from Chapter_5?

 

[turbojoe]

What the difference between Summers_Gone_Chapter_5_BETA and this ?
This has more content after?
Also why doesn't show the saves from Chapter_5?

Read here https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-13754413 last part

 

[Prokopije]

Try to delete two files Named_file_save.rpy and Named_file_save.rpyc from the folder game\Benutzerdefiniert\

Solution was in those files. Deleting them won't help, but modifying will. Who wants save naming gone open that "Named_file_save.rpy" file in notepad, find this part

"label get_save_name(file_save):
show screen save
$ current_file_save_name = FileSaveName(file_save.name)
$ save_name = renpy.call_screen("save_name_input", prompt="Save Name:", default=current_file_save_name, length=24)
return"

delete lines I marked in blue , so it should be:

"label get_save_name(file_save):
show screen save
return"

save, close, delete "Named_file_save.RPYC" file, restart the game and no more save naming!!!

 

[Old Man Al]

No sex boring maybe next year.

If it is only sex you want then don't bother.

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[Winterstale]

If it is only sex you want then don't bother.

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Hold on! There was an attempt at that, right here:

Spoiler: SG Hard-Love Scene ~

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[gropaga]

Solution was in those files. Deleting them won't help, but modifying will. ...

Named_file_save.rpy and Named_file_save.rpyc

Actually, they just need to be deleted.
Your mistake was that after unpacking scripts archive, you left it in the game folder, so the deleted file "remained" in the game. That's why it didn't help you.

 

[Dessolos]

What does this have to do with the jacuzzi scene? I'm talking about the scene where MC and his sister were sitting watching porn at home.

next time make it clear about the scene you were talking about. you made it sound like you were talking in general and I just used the jacuzzi as an example for my opinion since it used to show his dick but either way my statement holds true to my opinion still.

 

[Matt2012021]

Still amazed how many people still whine and complain about no sex

 

[Dessolos]

Still amazed how many people still whine and complain about no sex

Yeah it only got worst since the steam release it was always something people complaint about even tho it was known for a long time but didn't feel as bad as it is now

 

[NeroZee]

Quick question, how many people think the MC of this game is one of the worst, most unrealistic MC's ever? As much as i love the game and i do love the game, i cant get over just how terrible the main character is. Coupled that with the most cock block pacing, i dunno if i can stomach seeing him turn into a Don Juan banging girls left and right once the dev removes the cocblock leash from him.

 

[Maviarab]

Still amazed how many people still whine and complain about no sex

And they have so little to actually whine about, they bring up the same two scenes over and over and over and over....



















And over....and over.....

 

[Don Sucio]

Quick question, how many people think the MC of this game is one of the worst, most unrealistic MC's ever? As much as i love the game and i do love the game, i cant get over just how terrible the main character is. Coupled that with the most cock block pacing, i dunno if i can stomach seeing him turn into a Don Juan banging girls left and right once the dev removes the cocblock leash from him.

Dude don´t come here to start a war too!

(not me)

 

[Dessolos]

Quick question, how many people think the MC of this game is one of the worst, most unrealistic MC's ever? As much as i love the game and i do love the game, i cant get over just how terrible the main character is. Coupled that with the most cock block pacing, i dunno if i can stomach seeing him turn into a Don Juan banging girls left and right once the dev removes the cocblock leash from him.

It depends what you are looking for in a MC and what point of view you are looking at. For me this MC is one of better ones because Nika it quite different than alot of MC ive played. He knows he's fucked up and needs to change and trying to do something about so there will be some growth in his character.

As a MC that gets laid or has good traits yeah he is pretty bad but that is his character he isn't meant to be likeable. He is meant to show growth and change over time. idk I doubt this MC is going to have sex 24 / 7 even once his dick works again just seems it would be out of character for him. Since his growth is suppose to more or less be him getting over his trauma and trying to being a better human being and not a playboy.

 

[NeroZee]

Dude don´t come here to start a war too!

(not me)

Would this really start a war? The running joke since the game started is that the MC looks and acts like an emo loser, the dev of the game acknowledges this and has several in game jokes regarding it. Hell i dunno if most people remember but his dialogue has been tweaked quite a lot since the beginning. He used to be a much bigger asshole before, he has been toned down quite a bit though he is still fairly offputting.

 

[N1ghtcrawler]

Bella is far from perfect but she can’t be put in the same category as Vanessa and especially Leia.
Bella might be mean and arrogant but what you see it what you get with her unlike Vanessa. Remember how Vanessa deceived Bella and how she attempted to trick Nika? Bella can be unpleasant but she’s in your face, whereas Vanessa’s inner workings are a mystery, it makes her detached and scarier. Bella has displayed a vast range of emotions, we’ve seen her be happy, angry and sad, even cry. It depicts her as a more human, fragile person. This makes her more brodly likeable than Vanessa.

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No, they can be put in the same category. I explicitly said why I did that. Because they have very pronounced flaws that have a strong impact on the people around them. Bella displays a vast range of emotions, so what? Leia also displays a vast range of emotions. We see her being angry, sad and crying just like Bella. Sometimes she is even happy and smiles. These moments are rare and fleeting, but they are there. She is a very human, emotional and fragile person, too. Bella and Leia have a lot more in common than Vanessa. And considering they're both bullies and criminals. Leia is involved in organised crime, but people's hatred towards her mostly relates to her past when she was a bully at school. I don't see any problem putting them in the same category.

So, Leia is just as broken as Bella. Yet Ocean treats them differently. I've already said everything I need to in the previous post. In your examples, there is no serious debates about Bella that are comparable to Leia's. Mila's silent about her incidents and instead tells how Bella was bullied. And Nami, after that prank?

The rest. I've already said about it. (Sorry, I'm just tired of writing a reply from the start.)

We see Vanessa only twice. We can't say for sure that she deceived Bella. Her attempt to trick Nika was caused by his suspicious look. She admits it and shows him respect. After that, she becomes more friendly and outspoken during the jacuzzi scene. So yes, she is like from another world, but she's still not a robot. She shows emotions. Especially the negative ones that she can't hide when something doesn't go the way she wants. I'm almost sure that the main theme of her healing will be built around accepting new family members, particularly Noji. I think her mother's betrayal hit her harder than Zara. And if we meet their mother, it will happen in Vanessa's storyline.

Haha the awful lot, it’s a thing I really like about oceans games as it feels so refreshing in AVNs.

I wouldn’t call Nika, bella or Wiliam stupid but all of them tend to have a completly fucked up perception of things at times

The whole plot they're hatching is pretty much nonsense, but Nika's at least self aware enough to realise he's outclassed by Vanessa at this point and they need to be careful. He knows Bella is too blunt to be able to handle her.

I'm telling you what I said before. At the end of WiAB, William will be chasing enemies in his muscle car and smashing their heads with his foot like the mc of Drive while Leia establishes total control over the city's criminal life. I bet they'll drag the sister into their business too. So maybe in SG they'll turn out to be the main villains.

About the plan with Vanessa. It's seen almost as a mockery of the corruption trope.

Regarding evil people: I think Leia is the most dangerous and the most toxic, but I don't think of her as evil.

I dare to call her evil simply because of her connection to organised crime and the drug trade. And evil people can be caring and act like good people in general. These are not contradictory characteristics.

You're insane, by the way.

 

[Krytax123]

I don't think Nika is on Stefan's radar (other than as a curiosity - does he/his family matter in the games of power).

I think Vanessa is the dangerous one (from a perception and observation POV).

I think any Nika/Bella time at Nick's house when Vanessa is able to observe them will give her insights into each of them and them as a couple - insights they don't necessarily want her to have.

For now, she is neither ally nor enemy, but I think Vanessa would like it if Nika owed her favors... and he might not enjoy paying them back...

There is the couple's situation... imagine Vanessa and Mario meeting Nika and Bella at Nick's house.

Or - for more fun picture - imagine Nika and Bella naked in the jacuzzi, just talking and catching up - when suddenly Mario and Vanessa, also naked, round the corner to get in the jacuzzi.

Nika - in a quiet who of dominance - just stands up and stretches, then greets Vanessa.

Mario jumps into the hot tub and damn near drowns himself trying to hide the fact that he's using a butt plug.

Once he's 'safely' under the water, he notices that Vanessa is still standing there, fully naked, and taking her time getting under the water.

Bella's face shows that she does not like the 'show' Vanessa is giving Nika and Mario does not either.

Nika is meeting her eyes and not looking at the rest of her body, while the same cannot be said of Vanessa and then Mario notices where Vanessa is looking and ....

Ocean could have a lot of fun with a certain dichotomy between Nika and Mario if he chooses to.

Once Amber's cabin visit therapy gets Nika 'firing on all cylinders' - this dichotomy will be Much more pronounced...

Cheers!!

I love it!

I don't think nika and Nami will live at nick's house as they agreed with mila to rent a student house

I think they will (have to) stay at nick's house for at least a week and considering we only played 5 (?) days so far, it will probably be the whole second season? I think its great to switch the housing situations up from time to time. Now we can have a lot of Zara (yay) and Vanessa and see what kind of guy Nick is.

I really want Nick and Nika to have a great relationship, Nika really needs a experienced man he can asks questions and get guideance from.

Afterwards we can move in with Mila, Nami and Robin (which will lead to more sasha too) which will be great too.

so his ex isnt leia? or his ex had an affair with william?

Imo the whole description of her would never fit Leia and the women shown in the flashback doesnt look like her at all either. Leia would probably just have killed Nick instead of the accusations if she wanted to get rid of him *cough cough*

But the affair of his ex with willy is very possible, maybe leia just enjoys to gift all the Zane bastard daughters her jewelry to keep them connected to the clan and as a sign of untouchability lmao

Nah go for the wall of text, we all have plenty of time until the next update. Thoughtful points help us understand some of the more hidden easter eggs and red herrings as Ocean loves his cloak and dagger vaudville routines

I'll try to be concise myself though, and respond without spiraling out to the life, universe and everything

I suspect their admission to ZPR is either a form of scholarship or Noji pulling strings via the book club. I highly doubt Noji doesn't already know Elena Petrova. I also wonder if Charlie might not be the Dean. There is nothing saying that the dean has to be one of the families who own the college. Noji has 1 degree of separation at most from every power player it seems. Katie, Amber, Scarlet, Charlie, at least one degree via Katie or Sasha to Elena, the Frohns, if she knows Katie she probably knows Zoey... I'll be interested if we find out the meaning of her tattoo.

Ayua still knows Nami has an earring and she knows what that means even if we don't. She would have known Bella's prank and seens Nami with the earring. If she wasn't observant at college, she'd know it while drawing. 100% she knows what's going on, and gave Nika a free pass only because she knows what's going on.

Nice pickup about the id!

Yep. I also think that Coach hills actions with the handcuffs also bear keeping in mind. There is a chance that their plan from higher up via the Zane's involves Nika, and that's why he's there.

Along with that, there is the potential for Marla and Noji to know each other. Marla wanting to have therapy with Nika, while NOT having therapy with Vic is really quite interesting. Maybe Marla has some other thing with Nika's history via Summer that we don't know yet.

Yep, the bookclub is super interesting. I'd say Jenna, Emilia, Katie, Charlie and Adri at least know what's going on. Also, the fact that Robin calls Adrianna Adri at one point implies that she's well known even if she seems an odd fit to the club, so she's one to keep an eye on also. Someone mentioned that Willi had an aunt Jenna, so that could also be interesting.

The whole thing seems to be set up imo. Not only that Nika and Nami (have to) join the College, the whole ZPR himself seems to be designed as a education facility for the Zane (and adjacent lol) kids. Its conspicious how ZPR took over when all the kids of the known familys started to attend college.

Nojiko knows everyone (and everything about Nika and Nami's past) and i think they owe heir for taking them in. I furthermore think that Nojiko doesnt accept any money from the Zane's because she dont want to be involved with criminal stuff or money. And i think thats why she doesnt want them to connect again as she doesnt want Nika to become a drug selling criminal too lmao.

I mean this whole universe was originally called the zaneverse by ocean lol it wouldnt surprise me if Sasha, Nami, Nika, Vanessa, Aziz, dwight, (maybe robin), ayua & adrianna and her other siblings are all half or siblings and probably many more.

Good point about adrianna by the way esp as it was stated that it was her first visit of the bookclub (Katie dragged her along).


Its kinda sad that Noji never was at home when Ayua visited, i would have liked to see their reactions. I still could imagine Noji being related to Miru but at some point decided to steer away from all the criminal stuff.

I think coach hill his is kinda instructed/advised by Katie, we know they had a talk about the possiblity of becoming first team coaches.

Miss Marla wanting to have therapy with Nika is strange i agree, i always thought it was about the gun incident but it isnt there anymore, now im kinda clueless (maybe shes his real mom im joking)

and what about aziz we know something anout his fater? seems to me very suspicious wear glasses at night and all the time,if you dont want to hide some shit like heterochromia

Yeah hes either willys son or its the biggest red herring, his whole body type looks very much like william too.

Nice analysis.

On the question of Summer's age when she disappeared...

Nika tells Nami that Summer's breasts were just starting to develop when he last knew her - so the onset of puberty.

I have assumed Ocean chose to use something approximating the US school system in SG - Elementary School (ages 5-10), Middle School (ages 11-13), and High School (ages 14-17). Assuming Nika's at least 18 by the start of the game, Summer's disappearance (five years prior) puts Nika's age when it happened around 13-14 years.

Not sure if it helps any and which education system ocean used for his world but just for information in germany its like this:

6-12 - elementary school
13-16 - grammar school (depending on your grades this is already graduation and end of school for most)
16-18/19 - Gymnasium (no clue how to call it in english)

If you completed all three youre able to attend a university afterwards.