VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[mostwanted8]

Now you seem to agree with me on that. But earlier you wrote, "She doesn’t deserve to be punished further for her actions, her guilt is enough punishment." And then you continued to press the point that she has regrets and feelings. You didn't call it a "magic bubble" but that's essentially what follows from what you were saying.

I’m not agreeing with you only now. I said from the start days ago that Bella is immature and has a fixation on vengeance and will suffer the consequences of her recklessness and anger. There was never any “magic bubble” around her.

Bella will be arrested at some point. It's only a matter of time before she gets caught illegaly racing.
She should be more careful in the future and we as Nika will get a chance to influence her path for good or bad. Depending on our choices she might stay stuck in her ways or stop endangering herself for good.

Bella's problem is her anger, it's her defense mechanism. It's something she needs to work on and she will. At that point she'll be able to deal with stuff in a more measured way instead of resorting to excess anytime.

Bella needs to realize that
Illegal racing is bad.
Bullying people is bad.
Corrupting them is bad.
Spying on them is bad.
Invading their private life is bad.
Stealing their stuff is bad.
Damaging their property is bad.
Creating malicious schemes against them is bad.
Destroying other people's families is bad.
Entering private property without their permission is bad.
Bullying people who have previously bullied you is bad too, btw.
Making fun of Nami's tits is bad.

And she will.
I can see why you’re dissatisfied as it is but we barely scratched the game’s surface. Bella’s healing has just begun but she’s realizing already that some of the stuff she does is wrong and fucked up and she’s starting to change her ways, but will still pay more of an actual price since she can’t cancel her past actions.
On some things like vengeance and in particular the Holgersons, who we don’t know enough about to be sure of anything, she needs to work a lot more. There could be a sound reason behind her hatred for them and why she feels that she needs to protect her mom.
Give it time. Future Bella will cringe at her past self and be a better person. The same can be said for Nika who excuses her behavior sometimes, his healing journey just started too.

 

[RNasc4444]

The best way is to download the previous versions of the game. I've got a chapter 2 and a 4.5 for remembering things that have been cut. When going through them, it's remarkable how much more appreciation I have for the season 1 release. The biggest detrimental aspect is not the one lewd scene and the penises that were cut from the game, but the affect it had on Nami's character. Nami is the character that changes the most from Ch5 Beta to S1, while Mila is the one who loses out in terms of still not having a settled render.

Season 2 has no old material, so I think it'll be a breath of fresh air, and any of the cut content can resurface in a better form.

You keep saying this and it keeps leaving me baffled.

How in God's green Earth can you go from the starting point in the relationship with Nami to the "change in perception" and the "race with impossible odds" without all the cut content? Nothing was added. And you cut the most important bits of intimacy and meaningful relationship progression between them. So how does it make sense to you??? It's like getting from the point of meeting each other to getting married without all the dating.

Keep in mind I haven't played the Steam release. I just glanced at the renders and script. So it's utterly confusing to me how anyone can make sense of their relationship evolution. Considering there is no physical intimacy after her finding out about Nick. No going too far and kissing after spending the night together and no jacuzzi scene. HOW DOES IT MAKE SENSE?!?!!?

 

[Tremonia]

sorry, I don't share your view. Something happened in this book club that is much more crucial to the story. He should think about this a lot more. In my opinion, Amber is a low priority.

Sure, this club is important to the story, but at the exactly moment of that quote from MC he's not there. At the moment it's about raising Nojiko's influence in the group and using Amber for his own good.

 

[Myscho]

Myscho
I feel you man, an attractive and sexy girl constantly invades your personal space, this is unbearably terrible

I just want Mila and peace, not random unwanted touches

 

[Adhdclassic]

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Melanie has a birth mark / beauty mark? whatever you call it, facial mole, on her face though.
I tried very hard to look back at screenshots of the pizza/bus girl, and even with the hair blocking somewhat near part of that face, it's thin enough that you might be able to see it on close up of renders, but it's not there. Definitely don't think it's Melanie, unless the attention to detail was missed, but I feel attention to detail is pretty well done / intentional so far, so I doubt it's her.

I don't think they are going to reveal until mid season 2. Bella thinks that the sister is after her because of her mothers fame. Sisters are both nuts I wouldn't be surprise this has to do with Melanie asking her sister to destroy her.

 

[Don Sucio]

Sasha is my girl (despite what some people say cause I've been defending Bella lately *COFF COFF*) so I replayed that part after a long time to get back to you.

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Could be but i think she is referring to an ex or something, she doesn´t know Nika enough, she could be attracted to him if she finds him cute or interesting but those things she said have some past, i think she had a past with a guy in other social class and her family forced her to leave him, maybe that´s why she could be attracted to Nika.

You could be absolutely right about she referring to him but i think is more plausible think in an old ex boyfriend

 

[BobTheDuck]

You keep saying this and it keeps leaving me baffled.

How in God's green Earth can you go from the starting point in the relationship with Nami to the "change in perception" and the "race with impossible odds" without all the cut content? Nothing was added. And you cut the most important bits of intimacy and meaningful relationship progression between them. So how does it make sense to you??? It's like getting from the point of meeting each other to getting married without all the dating.

Keep in mind I haven't played the Steam release. I just glanced at the renders and script. So it's utterly confusing to me how anyone can make sense of their relationship evolution. Considering there is no physical intimacy after her finding out about Nick. No going too far and kissing after spending the night together and no jacuzzi scene. HOW DOES IT MAKE SENSE?!?!!?

The pacing of Nami's path feels better me. Before, I felt like she was forcing herself on Nika, everything was intense, the football hulk arms at every moment. Okay, I'm exaggerating, but as a character, I liked her humour, but she felt exaggerated. Everything was too fast, too intense. As his most trusted person, she didn't really show much reason to trust her, she was like a loose cannon, I half expected her to get distracted at every moment. Too hyper for me. Now her darker/shy side is visible before the impossible race. There are times when she gives Nika reasons to trust her, that weren't there before in the same way.

It's mostly the pacing of things. Placing season 1 for the first time I actually felt drawn to her character and wondered why she was saying certain things.

I certainly think the change of perception in previous versions didn't make sense - Nika let's her grind on him, he had a chub at the lake, and those things aren't reasons to re-evaluated? Simply letting her grind would be starting the race, right there. It's way too over the top for Nika, who was just arguing why he doesn't want to hear about Nami's lady parts.

There is still the cuddling and nuzzling prior to that, but it feels comfortable, and shows Nika as comfortable with her. It also makes Noji's prohibitions/prejudice seem tyrannical, as there is nothing 'weird' going on, they just have a close bond. The race starting with a kiss, rather than grinding then a kiss, it feels like it takes a step down, because Nami was escalting it too quickly. Nika should be having a panic attack, especially as Nami's basically rocking one herself.

I know you're not feeling based on what's been cut, but give season 1 a playthough, it feels different to me than before, and not just the cuts. Also, some of the reworked Ch2 stuff really adds to her character - the first basketball game really shows her care, and reflects on the way she wants to help him with the first team, but Zara holds her back.

TLDR: I feel she's better balanced than before, more rounded as a character (not as a model thankfully)

 

[mostwanted8]

I'm just not sure Nika would interact will Mila the same in our "alternate scenario" without Nami's presence on that first day. You mention Nika first met Mila with Trey, but he also abandoned them moments later without warning. i still contend - no Nami, no Nika joining the group on the sports field.

Mila would talk to him at ZPR and it’s safe to assume they’d hang out more together from there. I don’t see why it would be too different than the original game in this regard.

Both Jeff and Mila recognize that Nika is broken and sympathize because of that. Yet, if Nika interacted with them alone initially and gave them the cold shoulder treatment, at what point would Jeff and Mila just say, "F^^k this!" and stay away from him?

...and, yes, I know this is only a game and we are discussing hypotheticals. Nevertheless, this conversation is pushing me toward a greater appreciation of Nami, no matter what (as yet undeclared) bad shit she did in the past.

While Nami nudges him especially in the start Nika never needed any handholding from her when conducting himself with people (except when he blurts out some rude stuff). Things would *mostly* stay unchanged in his interactions.
By the end of season 1 Nika doesn’t need Nami as much as he did in the start and it’s been mostly because of his own efforts.
I assume this is gonna be a plot point in the future, Nami feeling like she’s not needed anymore. She already expresses dissatisfaction over him spending time with Bella instead of her. It’s related to her huge possessiveness and jealousy, she stares daggers at the other girls many times.

 

[Don Sucio]

Mila would talk to him at ZPR and it’s safe to assume they’d hang out more together from there. I don’t see why it would be too different than the original game in this regard.

While Nami nudges him especially in the start Nika never needed any handholding from her when conducting himself with people (except when he blurts out some rude stuff). Things would *mostly* stay unchanged in his interactions.
By the end of season 1 Nika doesn’t need Nami as much as he did in the start and it’s been mostly because of his own efforts.
I assume this is gonna be a plot point in the future, Nami feeling like she’s not needed anymore. She already expresses dissatisfaction over him spending time with Bella instead of her. It’s related to her huge possessiveness and jealousy, she stares daggers at the other girls many times.

Oh absolutely, Nami was jelous to Summer and i´m pretty sure she will be jelous again when Nika and Bella (for example) start a serious relationship.

In the dark path Nami probably would try to hurt the girls Nika is dating but in this new SG i think she will try to manipulate a little the environment and maybe even try to become Nika how he was before? Like trying to take back his lonely behaviour,a little. I don´t know, Nami loves Nika and cares about him so much but when her inner real behaviour appear... Who knows what can happen.

 

[mostwanted8]

Could be but i think she is referring to an ex or something, she doesn´t know Nika enough, she could be attracted to him if she finds him cute or interesting but those things she said have some past, i think she had a past with a guy in other social class and her family forced her to leave him, maybe that´s why she could be attracted to Nika.

She was simply commenting on the book and expressing her thoughts I think. We don’t have any proof for this theory. Coincidentally it was about adding some foreshadowing for their future relationship, most likely.
I certainly hope it’s not the case! Don’t wanna hear Sasha talk about some ex.
But I’d listen to her *up to a point*. She’s still my girl, you know.

in this new SG i think she will try to manipulate a little the environment and maybe even try to become Nika how he was before? Like trying to take back his lonely behaviour,a little.

She might try to ruin his standing with the girls and isolate him so that she can have him all to herself. It would be extremely immoral but she might cross that line for him. She’d be unforgivable for sabotaging Nika’s happiness in my eyes if she went that far and succeeded in ruining his life.

 

[John972]

Oh absolutely, Nami was jelous to Summer and i´m pretty sure she will be jelous again when Nika and Bella (for example) start a serious relationship.

In the dark path Nami probably would try to hurt the girls Nika is dating but in this new SG i think she will try to manipulate a little the environment and maybe even try to become Nika how he was before? Like trying to take back his lonely behaviour,a little. I don´t know, Nami loves Nika and cares about him so much but when her inner real behaviour appear... Who knows what can happen.

It's an interesting thing about Nami. We think of healing and growth of Nika's character in this game, but I suspect the same applies to Nami as well.

We know she did the 'dirty' on Nika in the past. We don't know exactly what that was yet, but Nika tells her he doesn't want her to revert to the (bad) person she once was, and betray his trust again.

All through Season 1, it seems Nami is winning that battle and she hasn't reverted to the way she apparently used to be. She supports Nika, abet hesitantly on the Bella path, and does shoot daggers at female rivals, but she hasn't actively sabotaged anything yet. What will she do in the future, though?

This actually brings me to an example of the limitation/weakness with this type of player choice-driven AVN...

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[RNasc4444]

TLDR: I feel she's better balanced than before, more rounded as a character (not as a model thankfully)

Fair enough. I completely disagree with you on all points but I respect your perspective.

I can't play this release. Not without heavy mods. The basis of my fondness for SG is precisely Nami and the MC's relationship. And that was utterly gutted in this version. I don't want this awful version to be my canon going into S2. So I'll stick with the Beta with all scenes restored.

 

[Don Sucio]

It's an interesting thing about Nami. We think of healing and growth of Nika's character in this game, but I suspect the same applies to Nami as well.

We know she did the 'dirty' on Nika in the past. We don't know exactly what that was yet, but Nika tells her he doesn't want her to revert to the (bad) person she once was, and betray his trust again.

All through Season 1, it seems Nami is winning that battle and she hasn't reverted to the way she apparently used to be. She supports Nika, abet hesitantly on the Bella path, and does shoot daggers at female rivals, but she hasn't actively sabotaged anything yet. What will she do in the future, though?

This actually brings me to an example of the limitation/weakness with this type of player choice-driven AVN...

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Yeah, nothing we can know to the 100% right now, but i think the uncertainty could provide two scenarios:

1- Nami doesn´t become in the bad person she was before, we don´t know how exactly she was but we know she hurted Nika, and Nika being hurted is something to consider. She will continue looking bad to other girls if Nika gets closer to them but she prepends Nika´s healing first and nothing "bad" happen.

2- Nami tries to convince Nika to stop going out so much (she is doing this now, she is concerned now about Nika going out too much, for example to the farm party, i want to believe she just want to be sure all of this isn´t bad for Nika but... What if she is getting jelous and start to see that maybe is not good for her wishes to have a social Nika?). She starts speaking bad about other girls, maybe she exagerates situations in her favor or even try to create situations with other girls where she ends being the victim to achieve that Nika stay in her side and he gets angry with the other persons involved, leading to a situaion where Nika starts to pass more and more time with her, forgetting about the other girls.

But of course without us knowing about Nami past and how she was before we only can speculate... We don´t know how manipulative is she and we don´t know what are her real habilities, something important to know because we could get closer to real scenarios knowing it.

 

[omtbaien]

Does this version not offer anything new?

 

[zvingo]

Hmm... Try downloading from a different place/link? From the links provided on the first post, try gofile maybe?

I downloaded it from Gofile two times (2024-05-10 and 2024-05-13) same problems: cinematics and half of the images are not found. I'll try another website or a compressed version. Thanks

 

[Penfold Mole]

Am I the only one that thinks Amber's sister Claire looks weird? like, the head does not belong on the body it is currently connected to. I also thought that she looked like Amber herself. It just could be my eyes playing tricks or her hairstyle, but look

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At least on this particular render her head does seem a bit too large for her body. I'd have to see more renders and possibly a full body render to be sure though.
This could very well be a single render where the position of her head or the camera angle and zoom level or all of them combined make it seem larger than it is on other renders.
I haven't played the new version yet and I don't remember enough from the last time I played the game. So I'm not going to make a final judgement at this point yet.

 

[Tremonia]

I downloaded it from Gofile two times (2024-05-10 and 2024-05-13) same problems: cinematics and half of the images are not found. I'll try another website or a compressed version. Thanks

You installed the incest patch, right?

 

[John972]

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Melanie has a birth mark / beauty mark? whatever you call it, facial mole, on her face though.
I tried very hard to look back at screenshots of the pizza/bus girl, and even with the hair blocking somewhat near part of that face, it's thin enough that you might be able to see it on close up of renders, but it's not there. Definitely don't think it's Melanie, unless the attention to detail was missed, but I feel attention to detail is pretty well done / intentional so far, so I doubt it's her.

Goth girl is at ZPR (she's seen at different times in the hallways there, including the period between classes).

Melanie Ceril goes to Jackson & Swartz - a rival college - as stated by Zara.

 

[Raynare69]

I don't think they are going to reveal until mid season 2. Bella thinks that the sister is after her because of her mothers fame. Sisters are both nuts I wouldn't be surprise this has to do with Melanie asking her sister to destroy her.

Yeah, I assume/hope we'll see Melanie soon in the current timeline. Even if not anytime soon, I'm sure her crazy (hot) cop sister will still be hounding down on us / Bella more.

Yes, I'm actually looking forward to seeing her more, for... reasons.

 

[Maviarab]

I love checking this thread once a year or so.
Just 24 years to go now ...

Guess I'll be needing your PayPal details too....