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And thus the transformation began
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Oh I actually meant, it's possible he is an actual family friend, literally, non ironically, but ironically knowing everyone will be *nudge, nudge, wink, wink*The word you're looking for is "neighbour"
Has Ocean mentioned if a savegame from the Steam copy will work with the Patreon / F95 copy? When Chapter 6 releases I'd like to xfer my Steam save over to the Patreon copy if at all possible, so just curious, thank you.
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I believe both scripts are pretty much done yes.
oh yeah .... i bet he does !
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I beg to differ. Have you played the very early releases of SG, I mean Chap 1 and 2 first releases for instance? Nami and MC were brother and sister and it was built right in the game with no need for a patch. Only later on did a patch get released to restore it but even then, the game code still contained references for a while to the patch itself, like "if patchSG.rpy is loaded then"...meaning it was designed as such by Ocean himself, as we all know. This is how it went up to Chap 5 Beta, which coincidently was released around the time Patreon got more intense on the non-incest rule. He has always kept at large about the patch, denying its involvement in it or refusing to even discuss it, as to not fuel any action Patreon might take, but earlier builds don't lie. Only when he lost his WiAB Patreon page did he come to realise that he couldn't afford to lose it for SG, and didn't even bother to release an updated patch for the final Season 1 build. He might have made that decision earlier but this WiAB situation only strengthened his position towards SG.
Of course, the narrative for Season 2 will now completely ignore the potential brother/sister relationship and continue as if it never existed. And yes this will make mods like mine most likely irrelevant in their patched version. As for WiAB still keeping it, well he lost Patreon over it anyway, and since this was only an issue with Patreon and has never been one for Steam/Subscribestar and the likes, of course he will keep it as it is. In fact I'd be surprised if its next chapter, Chapter 4, does need a patch at all. After all, its Patreon is gone so...no need to keep it hidden anymore.
I've spent enough hours cross-examining different versions of the game for the work on my mod to tell you he's even considered going further to ban any family connection between some characters. For instance, the Maja-Victoria relationship was written out as them not being sisters...but only partially.
For instance, Maja would say this to MC in Chapter 3 (this was present all the way to Chapter 5 beta release) :
Weird, right? I mean, are both of them not Frohns, as even Nojiko acknowledges early in Chapter 1? That's some messed-up continuity there...
Only with the patch, which you deem not-official, did this revert to
Oh, and guess what the official season 1 now is?
which is pretty much the same as the older patch version.
Oh there's this render too from chapter 4.5...when both Maja and Vic get their ZPR mail...look at the enveloppe with Victoria's name.
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So he was, at some point, so paranoid about the whole incest stuff that he even went as far as trying to erase that family connection between the two girls. Did he plan at some point to have incest between them? Maybe, maybe not, who the hell knows, even though there's some spicy renders with Maja giving a bath to a topless Vic...but only when he was finishing up Season 1 did he realize he could now properly acknowledge they were sisters.
So yes, incest has always been built-in under the covers in the game story. Rewriting history and pretending it's never been there doesn't change that fact. I mean, to this day, Nami still claims the following at the beginning of chapter 5:
What big, blinking, fucking red line?! They're roomies for God's sake
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Brother...you're my hero for even trying but trust me...that's a fight not worth fighting.I beg to differ. Have you played the very early releases of SG, I mean Chap 1 and 2 first releases for instance? Nami and MC were brother and sister and it was built right in the game with no need for a patch. Only later on did a patch get released to restore it but even then, the game code still contained references for a while to the patch itself, like "if patchSG.rpy is loaded then"...meaning it was designed as such by Ocean himself, as we all know. This is how it went up to Chap 5 Beta, which coincidently was released around the time Patreon got more intense on the non-incest rule. He has always kept at large about the patch, denying its involvement in it or refusing to even discuss it, as to not fuel any action Patreon might take, but earlier builds don't lie. Only when he lost his WiAB Patreon page did he come to realise that he couldn't afford to lose it for SG, and didn't even bother to release an updated patch for the final Season 1 build. He might have made that decision earlier but this WiAB situation only strengthened his position towards SG.
Of course, the narrative for Season 2 will now completely ignore the potential brother/sister relationship and continue as if it never existed. And yes this will make mods like mine most likely irrelevant in their patched version. As for WiAB still keeping it, well he lost Patreon over it anyway, and since this was only an issue with Patreon and has never been one for Steam/Subscribestar and the likes, of course he will keep it as it is. In fact I'd be surprised if its next chapter, Chapter 4, does need a patch at all. After all, its Patreon is gone so...no need to keep it hidden anymore.
I've spent enough hours cross-examining different versions of the game for the work on my mod to tell you he's even considered going further to ban any family connection between some characters. For instance, the Maja-Victoria relationship was written out as them not being sisters...but only partially.
For instance, Maja would say this to MC in Chapter 3 (this was present all the way to Chapter 5 beta release) :
Weird, right? I mean, are both of them not Frohns, as even Nojiko acknowledges early in Chapter 1? That's some messed-up continuity there...
Only with the patch, which you deem not-official, did this revert to
Oh, and guess what the official season 1 now is?
which is pretty much the same as the older patch version.
Oh there's this render too from chapter 4.5...when both Maja and Vic get their ZPR mail...look at the enveloppe with Victoria's name.
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So he was, at some point, so paranoid about the whole incest stuff that he even went as far as trying to erase that family connection between the two girls. Did he plan at some point to have incest between them? Maybe, maybe not, who the hell knows, even though there's some spicy renders with Maja giving a bath to a topless Vic...but only when he was finishing up Season 1 did he realize he could now properly acknowledge they were sisters.
So yes, incest has always been built-in under the covers in the game story. Rewriting history and pretending it's never been there doesn't change that fact. I mean, to this day, Nami still claims the following at the beginning of chapter 5:
What big, blinking, fucking red line?! They're roomies for God's sake
They know all this. They know Ocean. It's grandstanding. It's misdirection. Call it what you want. I know it's frustrating sometimes but you have to go with it.
I damn near lose my mind whenever BobTheDuck says he thinks the game "flows better" now. When all I can see is Frankestein's monster. Its a mishmash of ideas Ocean had along the way. A jumble of contradictions and senseless vague scenes. It's like it was made by five different people with 5 different ideas for the story and characters but they're all Ocean. Ocean from 5 years ago, Ocean from 4 years ago, Ocean from 3 years ago etc... He can claim all he wants that the "scripts are finished", we all know that he is a night's sleep away from changing the entire narrative at a whim. How many last names has Nojiko had?
If in the next update Mila would just show up as a dark skinned, bald trans woman would I be the least bit surprised? Fuck no!!! Because it's Ocean! It's what he does! It's what he's always done! What you see as real and factual in the game today, can be the exact opposite tomorrowand if you ask Ocean, he'll tell that was always the plan and that was always how he intended it to be. It's like being gaslit in real time by a fucking AVN developer. BITCH I KNOW WHAT I SAW AND WHAT I READ!
Does this add anything different to scrappy's mod? They aren't compatible so curious as to what I'm missing out on
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The patch Scrappy made for his mod is built upon my own patch so it should be the same
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so...I'm confused with the latest update...I saved like I was supposed to after MC went to party with his mother...I downloaded the most recent update and in the folder it says season one steam exe...I started where I saved and it showed MC talking to Bella on the phone and after she was reading to her sister I assume and then that was it? am I supposed to download chapter 5 beta instead? I apologize if this is a stupid question.
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The update ends right there, after she talks to her sister
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Everybody when Nika gets his boner back
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Well, as Nami said so beautifully: "When his worm wakes up..."
somehow fits better...
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thanks for replying...I can't believe that after all this time the update was only 5 minutes long???
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That's nika's genetics at work. All that's left to do is to recover his erection and nika will reach his final form.
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That's not the brother of the basketball team leader, you know the faggot with long hands and a history of sexual harassment?View attachment 3707140
Hmmm, I got the first impression he was Sasha's older brother and Ayua's boyfriend.
Or he is Sasha's bodyguard, and actually Ayua is Sasha's girlfriend.
Sasha told her bodyguards to take Ayua (her girlfriend) home.
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Apart from being the daughter of a Russian mobster. No I can't think of another theory, you'll have to wait for the second season for more information.