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I'm genuinely curious if Ocean has a mostly finished script for his stories, particularly for WiAB and SG. Given that both games intersect at certain points and, if I'm not mistaken, each consists of around 30 chapters, it would be interesting to know if the scripts are largely complete and he's now primarily focusing on the visual aspects, making only minor adjustments to the scripts as needed. It would be fascinating to read the raw manuscripts for both games...
 

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I'm genuinely curious if Ocean has a mostly finished script for his stories, particularly for WiAB and SG. Given that both games intersect at certain points and, if I'm not mistaken, each consists of around 30 chapters, it would be interesting to know if the scripts are largely complete and he's now primarily focusing on the visual aspects, making only minor adjustments to the scripts as needed. It would be fascinating to read the raw manuscripts for both games...
https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-11447725
I technically finished writing Summer's Gone.
It got a total of 32 Chapters for the main story... I will certainly rewrite some Chapters that haven't been released yet over time, but well. Now we have a number.
 

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Hmmm, I got the first impression he was Sasha's older brother and Ayua's boyfriend. :unsure:

Or he is Sasha's bodyguard, and actually Ayua is Sasha's girlfriend. :sneaky:
Sasha told her bodyguards to take Ayua (her girlfriend) home. :LOL:
Sasha has a female bodyguard, who follows her around the college. Dwight isn't around her regularly, but we know Inessa tries to be discreet at times. He was also leaving Sasha to take Ayua home.

Ayua probably doesn't have him as a boyfriend if she's acting like that over Nika, shouting about marrying him while her boyfriend is in earshot. Or she's a shitty GF, plus asking Bella for dick pics, looking at his crotch etc.

I think it's more likely he's a Petrova or a *genuine-non-code-word* family friend.
 
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Sasha has a female bodyguard, who follows her around the college. Dwight isn't around her regularly, but we know Inessa tries to be discreet at times. He was also leaving Sasha to take Ayua home.

Ayua probably doesn't have him as a boyfriend if she's acting like that over Nika, shouting about marrying him while her boyfriend is in earshot. Or she's a shitty GF, plus asking Bella for dick pics, looking at his crotch etc.

I think it's more likely he's a Petrova or a *genuine-non-code-word* family friend.
We don't know if she only has 1 bodyguard right. :sneaky:
Seeing as she made his aunt (Petrova) her bodyguard, it's no surprise we'll see another Petrova become her bodyguard (if Dwight is a Petrova).
I only saw Inessa twice, first in the cafeteria on the second day, and second in the book club.

Ayua was drunk, so it could be. at least from seeing Sasha's expression while watching them. :LOL:

But yeah, all of that is just a wild theory. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Has Ocean mentioned if a savegame from the Steam copy will work with the Patreon / F95 copy? When Chapter 6 releases I'd like to xfer my Steam save over to the Patreon copy if at all possible, so just curious, thank you.
 

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I'm genuinely curious if Ocean has a mostly finished script for his stories, particularly for WiAB and SG. Given that both games intersect at certain points and, if I'm not mistaken, each consists of around 30 chapters, it would be interesting to know if the scripts are largely complete and he's now primarily focusing on the visual aspects, making only minor adjustments to the scripts as needed. It would be fascinating to read the raw manuscripts for both games...
I believe both scripts are pretty much done yes.

Has Ocean mentioned if a savegame from the Steam copy will work with the Patreon / F95 copy? When Chapter 6 releases I'd like to xfer my Steam save over to the Patreon copy if at all possible, so just curious, thank you.
Same version.
 

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It was never an incest story anyway. WIAB is, this isn't. People can continue to argue that until they are blue in the face but until the recent Patreon crazyness, Ocean himself always maintained that stance. If this was supposed to be, why admit WIAB is but not this hmmm? They arre adopted, there are reasons for it, and we will find out the full extent of those reasons and how they relate to WIAB in due time I'm sure.
I beg to differ. Have you played the very early releases of SG, I mean Chap 1 and 2 first releases for instance? Nami and MC were brother and sister and it was built right in the game with no need for a patch. Only later on did a patch get released to restore it but even then, the game code still contained references for a while to the patch itself, like "if patchSG.rpy is loaded then"...meaning it was designed as such by Ocean himself, as we all know. This is how it went up to Chap 5 Beta, which coincidently was released around the time Patreon got more intense on the non-incest rule. He has always kept at large about the patch, denying its involvement in it or refusing to even discuss it, as to not fuel any action Patreon might take, but earlier builds don't lie. Only when he lost his WiAB Patreon page did he come to realise that he couldn't afford to lose it for SG, and didn't even bother to release an updated patch for the final Season 1 build. He might have made that decision earlier but this WiAB situation only strengthened his position towards SG.

Of course, the narrative for Season 2 will now completely ignore the potential brother/sister relationship and continue as if it never existed. And yes this will make mods like mine most likely irrelevant in their patched version. As for WiAB still keeping it, well he lost Patreon over it anyway, and since this was only an issue with Patreon and has never been one for Steam/Subscribestar and the likes, of course he will keep it as it is. In fact I'd be surprised if its next chapter, Chapter 4, does need a patch at all. After all, its Patreon is gone so...no need to keep it hidden anymore.

I've spent enough hours cross-examining different versions of the game for the work on my mod to tell you he's even considered going further to ban any family connection between some characters. For instance, the Maja-Victoria relationship was written out as them not being sisters...but only partially.

For instance, Maja would say this to MC in Chapter 3 (this was present all the way to Chapter 5 beta release) :

"My parents were in their mid 40s when I was born... and Vic's were around the same age."
Weird, right? I mean, are both of them not Frohns, as even Nojiko acknowledges early in Chapter 1? That's some messed-up continuity there...

Only with the patch, which you deem not-official, did this revert to
"Our parents were in their mid 40s when I was born and almost 50 when Vic was born."
Oh, and guess what the official season 1 now is?
Our parents were in their mid 40s when I was born... and even older when Vic was born."
which is pretty much the same as the older patch version.

Oh there's this render too from chapter 4.5...when both Maja and Vic get their ZPR mail...look at the enveloppe with Victoria's name.

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So he was, at some point, so paranoid about the whole incest stuff that he even went as far as trying to erase that family connection between the two girls. Did he plan at some point to have incest between them? Maybe, maybe not, who the hell knows, even though there's some spicy renders with Maja giving a bath to a topless Vic...but only when he was finishing up Season 1 did he realize he could now properly acknowledge they were sisters.

So yes, incest has always been built-in under the covers in the game story. Rewriting history and pretending it's never been there doesn't change that fact. I mean, to this day, Nami still claims the following at the beginning of chapter 5:

"It was all fun and games... but now... I feel like we crossed a big, blinking, red line."
What big, blinking, fucking red line?! They're roomies for God's sake :sneaky:
 
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