VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Eldiran]

I'll just reply to this part because I haven't had enough coffee for much thinking. No harem is planned. Ocean's stated in the past that he hates harem logic in games. I think he wishes to focus on developing trust as part of healing, which means that rejecting other LI's is important to building relationships. In a similar way the polyamories that ARE plannned are meant to he hard to achieve and easy to fail, because people do get jealous if there is any sense of unequal affection in a triangle. By going this way, Ocean avoids harem logic by pointing out how hard it truly is to keep a harem.

This is mostly my conjecture from things Ocean has said over the last two years, so he could have a different mindset now, who knows? BUt there is a link on the first page of the thread that details who the LI's were that Ocean revealed, again with the caveat that Ocean might just mess with us. In some ways it's best not to know, because we'll treat characters like game to hunt rather than acknowledge their stroy in detail, simply because we know they're a LI and we know there's a payoff if we follow the porn logic. My guess is that Ocean partially regrets giving out some of that information, as people don't play the game with surprise. At least the planned complexity of the throuples will mean people will find it challenging, walkthrough or not - just look at how hard it was to get WiaB's first NTR styl scene. Even with a community of people telling others, people still find is hidden. So throuples will only be the case for people who made the right choices early on without really knowing.

If it's true, like that. Harem isn't something i like in game, but i deal with that because it's so common. None of my favourite game are Harem, but some good trouple exist nonetheless (for exemple i like the one in being a DIK with maya and josie; i know it's an unpopular opinion : ). Harem is generaly too sureal for me, it's like the woman are just some meat that the mc are gonna consume, and it's fine when you just wanna fap or have this fantasy but if you wanna read something with a more depth and feeling, it will not do the job for me. Like when you see the MC telling how much he love X, that he can't live without her and 15 minutes after he is banging another chick like the previous one was nothing. It's sometime even disgusting a bit to be honest but this is what it is.

I say that i'm curious to know but that doesn't mean i wanna use the link you are talking about. Going into the game and trying different setting, redoing it with something else in mind is part of the fun imo. It's like your commitment to details are rewarded, i like it. Also i'm not sure it's a bad thing that Ocean give that information. Most people would probably don't read it and only the one who are curious enough or needed it would read it. Yeah sure, some of these wouldn't care enough to fully commit to the game with the surprise probably intended by Ocean, but it's the same with people who use walkthrough.

They will always be people who aren't that much interested to a game to give it much time, and that's alright, especialy if they have fun that way. We aren't immortal after all.

 

[BobTheDuck]

If it's true, like that. Harem isn't something i like in game, but i deal with that because it's so common. None of my favourite game are Harem, but some good trouple exist nonetheless (for exemple i like the one in being a DIK with maya and josie; i know it's an unpopular opinion : ). Harem is generaly too sureal for me, it's like the woman are just some meat that the mc are gonna consume, and it's fine when you just wanna fap or have this fantasy but if you wanna read something with a more depth and feeling, it will not do the job for me. Like when you see the MC telling how much he love X, that he can't live without her and 15 minutes after he is banging another chick like the previous one was nothing. It's sometime even disgusting a bit to be honest but this is what it is.

I say that i'm curious to know but that doesn't mean i wanna use the link you are talking about. Going into the game and trying different setting, redoing it with something else in mind is part of the fun imo. It's like your commitment to details are rewarded, i like it. Also i'm not sure it's a bad thing that Ocean give that information. Most people would probably don't read it and only the one who are curious enough or needed it would read it. Yeah sure, some of these wouldn't care enough to fully commit to the game with the surprise probably intended by Ocean, but it's the same with people who use walkthrough.

They will always be people who aren't that much interested to a game to give it much time, and that's alright, especialy if they have fun that way. We aren't immortal after all.

Yeah, I'm the same regarding harems. I think some players prefer to play the game once, and get all the content, but here that's just not possible. The infidelity of an MC in a harem game where they swear undying love to all the girls is just lazy writing. Any of the harems in real life would end up with th MC being a missing person, dumped in the river with his face disfigured by 5 or more sets of nails.

Something i find valuable about SG is that the relationships aren't the reason for the events, even if they might in some ways be triggers - there is a story of what Nika is going through independent of whose path you chose. This also means that Nika has other things on his mind than simply getting his erections back. He doesn't actually miss them like (what seems to be) 90% of people in this thread. He'd rather have a sense of looking forward to waking up the next day rather than be relieved he survived through a day.

About the list - my sense is that OCean's probably changed his mind about some of it since it was posted. But your take is a great one - not knowing who has extra content means you've got to be careful with every interaction in case they are a LI later. Chosing how Nika reacts to people is our only task in the game really, so not knowing who is really important will give us a more interesting playthrough in my opinion. Like the redhead that isn't named or the goth bus/pizzaria girl. I don't want to know if they are or aren't chances are we'll find out.

I also like the idea of a hidden LI, someone who requires a who bunch of choices to unlock. I've been playing some RPG's lately and some characters require an epic amount of perception to simply notice, which makes them more rewarding to play.

 

[Eldiran]

The infidelity of an MC in a harem game where they swear undying love to all the girls is just lazy writing.

I agree 100%. (it's my biggest complain about game like Eternum, the mc is going here and that make no sense )

Yeah they are a story despite what girl(s) you choose. He will probably get into this wood cabin to tell his therapist what was happening no matter what, or at least a bit of it. I really wanna see that now; damn, i'm gonna take a seat into the hype train for the S2 like everyone : )

This also means that Nika has other things on his mind than simply getting his erections back.

As it's stated in Bella's route, i think that Nika want these back to please to woman and not only for the other way around.(i think he say that when they are on the top of Bella's car) And it's something natural imo. I mean if you love (not sure we are here yet in the story) someone and aren't narcissist, you will do what you can to please them, not only seek for what please you. And in a way pleasing the person you love please you too, so it's win-win.

I also like the idea of a hidden LI, someone who requires a who bunch of choices to unlock.

I wish we will see more of that in Adult game. Or some secret ending. They are a few games who have whose for sure, but it's really rare. I bet we will see stuff like that in Being a DIK but who know for now : )

 

[dameromexxx]

I also like the idea of a hidden LI, someone who requires a who bunch of choices to unlock. I've been playing some RPG's lately and some characters require an epic amount of perception to simply notice, which makes them more rewarding to play.

Yes I have two save files one on Bella's path and the other when I reject every possible available girl. I'm just really curious how the story will develop in a situation where Nika is constantly waiting for someone to show up who will catch his attention. The game already seems to pay attention to this Sasha seems more positive towards Nika when he's not dating any girl I wonder if Ocean is going to do something interesting with this as I said earlier ''hidden romance options'' when you spend let's say 16 out of 32 announced chapters alone and hidden events which trigger only in such a situation would be amazing and would go hand in hand with how he advertises his game as a mature story with adult elements

 

[AlexFXR]

Yeah, I'm the same regarding harems. I think some players prefer to play the game once, and get all the content, but here that's just not possible. The infidelity of an MC in a harem game where they swear undying love to all the girls is just lazy writing.

I think you're right. Although if you look at SG impartially, you'll see a lot of meaningless dialogue. That's why the game isn't developing and players have been discussing the same thing for years. This can also be called lazy writing.

 

[hermit_tr]

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[FreeRangeEgg]

I can appreciate a slow burn.

Still appreciate it? haha

 

[vampires69'in]

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I did...and I know these characters name, but as soon as I tried to type...my mind went blank . It might be time to replay it lol.

 

[Nerdbro]

Did I miss the dlc do you have to activate it somehow?

 

[CGPUK]

Did I miss the dlc do you have to activate it somehow?

I am thinking the same after it said to wait for season 2.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Did I miss the dlc do you have to activate it somehow?

I am thinking the same after it said to wait for season 2.

The DLC is installed in the game folder (regardless of operating system)- you access it manually, rather than in the game, it's simply folders with the renders in them etc.

 

[Netherborn]

wow this one is actually really good, on par with a good romance drama/novel, authors have what it takes to make a killer series or a movie.

 

[Jonmanchu]

The only reason this game is lagging behind BAD & Eternum is because of the lack of lewd scenes even after 5 years.I understand u need the story to progress to have lewd moments but how long? A decade? The ratings are going down because of it hope the developer adds some lewds soon coz I dont want the most beautiful renders in this forum go without some action.It is time my man add those scenes and u will be on top 3 along with the legends BAD nd ETERNUM

 

[RNasc4444]

The only reason this game is lagging behind BAD & Eternum is because of the lack of lewd scenes even after 5 years.I understand u need the story to progress to have lewd moments but how long? A decade? The ratings are going down because of it hope the developer adds some lewds soon coz I dont want the most beautiful renders in this forum go without some action.It is time my man add those scenes and u will be on top 3 along with the legends BAD nd ETERNUM

 

[soprano31]

Eternum lewd scenes

 

[razante]

SG is my top AVN, but I really hope that in the next episode we get some questions answered or at least see some progression with the existing plots. I'm not saying it needs to have any lewd scenes with the LIs in the next episode, but there should be some progress regarding the MC's background. The scene with Nojiko in the bathtub could provide some good development, like Nojiko already knowing Amber and why she hid it from Nika, or answering questions about the past, like her friendship with Emilia, the MC's parents, or her relationship with Kate.

In the next episode, Ocean has the opportunity to introduce tons of WIAB characters in the Dojo scene, so I'm really hyped to see what happens there. I'm 100% sure we'll see Sasha, Ayua's sisters/cousins, or even Miru (though she hasn't been confirmed to be alive yet). Maybe we'll even see some college students like Bella and Nadia attending the Dojo classes. But I'm certain the Dojo part will be fire because Ocean has been keeping it under wraps, not showing any previews for that part in any devlog.

What do you guys think about Nika asking Zara to train him instead of his previous "uncle" coach? Maybe he lost contact, or the coach turned out to be a MF?

 

[razante]

The only reason this game is lagging behind BAD & Eternum is because of the lack of lewd scenes even after 5 years.I understand u need the story to progress to have lewd moments but how long? A decade? The ratings are going down because of it hope the developer adds some lewds soon coz I dont want the most beautiful renders in this forum go without some action.It is time my man add those scenes and u will be on top 3 along with the legends BAD nd ETERNUM

What SG is lacking is branching and progression with the general plot. Ocean gave us the best renders, quality characters and a lot of questions, but it's time to answer some of them in the next episode.

 

[BobTheDuck]

SG is my top AVN, but I really hope that in the next episode we get some questions answered or at least see some progression with the existing plots. I'm not saying it needs to have any lewd scenes with the LIs in the next episode, but there should be some progress regarding the MC's background. The scene with Nojiko in the bathtub could provide some good development, like Nojiko already knowing Amber and why she hid it from Nika, or answering questions about the past, like her friendship with Emilia, the MC's parents, or her relationship with Kate.

In the next episode, Ocean has the opportunity to introduce tons of WIAB characters in the Dojo scene, so I'm really hyped to see what happens there. I'm 100% sure we'll see Sasha, Ayua's sisters/cousins, or even Miru (though she hasn't been confirmed to be alive yet). Maybe we'll even see some college students like Bella and Nadia attending the Dojo classes. But I'm certain the Dojo part will be fire because Ocean has been keeping it under wraps, not showing any previews for that part in any devlog.

What do you guys think about Nika asking Zara to train him instead of his previous "uncle" coach? Maybe he lost contact, or the coach turned out to be a MF?

That's a really interesting point about the uncle - if it was an actual uncle, you'd assume Noji would have their contact. But the idea that Nika doesn't keep any connection with his uncle through this trauma is strange: surely Noji would be enlisting their help? SO I guess as you say, a mf.

And yes, I'm hyped for the dojo and the bar opening. Screw it, I'm hyped for next chapter, all the bits. My guess is we'll get strung along, enough answers will be hinted, but they'll just give rise to more questions: Answers will be indirect, hinting at new theories. We're less than 20% of the way in renderwise, so Frist act sets the scene, second act explains the problem, third act, heroic problem solving, 4th act, it all goes to shit, relf reflection required, fth act, the true understanding.

That's at least how a lot of RPGs go. Mysteries have to be tantalising and revealing layers until that moment when all is reval, and everything falls apart for the MC. Then still time to rebuild their courage for the end game. Same same but different in this cas I guess.

 

[Penfold Mole]

That's a really interesting point about the uncle - if it was an actual uncle, you'd assume Noji would have their contact. But the idea that Nika doesn't keep any connection with his uncle through this trauma is strange: surely Noji would be enlisting their help? SO I guess as you say, a mf.
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I bet his uncle was killed in a car accident, too...

By miss Marla, obviously

 

[Kazanovaromeo]

I bet his uncle was killed in a car accident, too...

By miss Marla, obviously

OH, do not tell he will go to live with his mother's best friend who have 3 adult daughters, OH, He will, right?!!