Jacowboy

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But all of this just points out the level of absurdity that with the first season finished we still have no fucking clue whatsoever what the nature of their relationship is.
Oh if only THAT was the only issue :ROFLMAO:

peak writing...

No but seriously, he should at least clean the first few chapters, regardless of changes or not... they're really bad.

Anyways, unfortunately, I'm left still wondering wether to tag it as incest or not... but given all the self-censoring the game received, I suppose it's just best to assume they're no longer blood related.

Man it's a pain in the ass how a lot of devs are scrambling to retcon incest out of their games... fuckin' annoying fr.
 
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vampires69'in

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Oh if only THAT was the only issue :ROFLMAO:

peak writing...

No but seriously, he should at least clean the first few chapters, regardless of changes or not... they're really bad.

Anyways, unfortunately, I'm left still wondering wether to tag it as incest or not... but given all the self-censoring the game received, I supposed it's just best to assume they're no longer blood related.

Man it's a pain in the ass how a lot of devs are scrambling to retcon incest out of their games... fuckin' annoying fr.
roomiecest :KEK:
 

MagicMan753

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Oh if only THAT was the only issue :ROFLMAO:

peak writing...

No but seriously, he should at least clean the first few chapters, regardless of changes or not... they're really bad.

Anyways, unfortunately, I'm left still wondering wether to tag it as incest or not... but given all the self-censoring the game received, I supposed it's just best to assume they're no longer blood related.

Man it's a pain in the ass how a lot of devs are scrambling to retcon incest out of their games... fuckin' annoying fr.
I am honestly unsure too, but when I asked on discord, he said things will be explained in future chapters on why their relationship is so forbidden.
 
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Silver_Crow117

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I can see your point, but branching the LIs path even more is only give Ocean more work and the game already has 10 plus LIs. Would love som Dom Nami but I think we will get just a romantic route and that is that.
Well just have to see, can definitely see it happening tho with how big he was already thinking… wouldn’t surprise me
 
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BobTheDuck

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I do see Nami being one of those characters that can have a romantic/sub/dom type ordeal with Nika…. Since the MCs sexuality isn’t really explored (because of all his problems) it gives the player the flexibility to dom,sub, normal etc… also depends on the Li you are going for but Nami might have 3 ways of going with
Apparntly Ocean's been talking on discord about Vanessa having a sub or equal route, either she sees Nika as qual, or dominates him. I am imagining if he fail to impress her enough that he is equal, she doms Nika, because that is her current preference (with Mario). Mario might think he wears pants, butt....

I didn't read too much about it, but I would imagine that themain extent of the paths will be flavour text in progress of the main story, and different lewd scenes. Yes, there are more renders, but if they're mainly for lewd scenes only, having difference scenes rather than a 'full' scene and a stripped down vanilla scene is not considered an impossible amount of work. Someone like Nami is more central to the main story though, so too many paths might affect the way she reacts in the main story:i something makes her angry, does sub Namijust accept, or does she do what normal Nami would do to have the main plot advance, or will that make her seem like she switches out of character between private and public too much?

Oh if only THAT was the only issue :ROFLMAO:

peak writing...

No but seriously, he should at least clean the first few chapters, regardless of changes or not... they're really bad.

Anyways, unfortunately, I'm left still wondering wether to tag it as incest or not... but given all the self-censoring the game received, I suppose it's just best to assume they're no longer blood related.

Man it's a pain in the ass how a lot of devs are scrambling to retcon incest out of their games... fuckin' annoying fr.
I'm of the opinion that if Ocean needs to rework S1 to safeguard his new changes, he will. Whether he will fix it all up? I don't think so. Possibly he'll revisit it at some point, but for now I imagine his focus is dealing with how to keep WiaB's flow while making changes, and the exciting thing of creating a whole new chapter that is very ambitious in scope. In some ways, season 1 of SG acts as a prologue, and S2 will become the start of the game, at least a bit more what people expected the game to be maybe.

Retconning games, well if the dev is doing the game as a source of income, I'd say they'd be foolish not to, even if the story is greeat. Eventually they have to abandon their story or retcon it, eventually they will be up for review. I don't like it, but it's ultimately not the dev's fault. Jumping through hoops to pretend everything is normal is an answer that doesn't last long, it will be noticed. I can accept pragmatism as valid.
 
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I'm prolly gonna do one final playthrough in December and i won't touch this game till next update. Maybe I'll add in the restore soundtracks mod to spice it up. I've played through this game 3 times by now. Whenever i feel really down the whole vibe this game puts out is really therapeutic for me. Idk if it's the soundtrack, setting or bella, something about this game just resonates within me for some reason.
 

BobTheDuck

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I scrolled 20 pages and found no news, is this enough past comments?
To be fair, the latest devlog was 22 pages back. But have you ever seen an abandoned game spoken of like this? Usually and abandoned game has a shiny yellow abandoned tag at the top of the page, and people stop talking about it. Neither of those things are happening, the game has always had a slow update cycle because the dev releases massive updates rather than lots of smaller ones. THere are some games on this site that are completed with fewer renders than a single chapter of this game.

Patience is required and we talk about what's revealed in the devlogs between Ocean's two games (as they're linked) in the meantime. If you want current news, there's a SG devlog every 2 weeks, next one should be around Thursday/Friday.
 

Krytax123

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People sure be prepared for it to take close to a year for a update
If its really 6k or even 7k+ renders thats still fast even without considering the quality.

I get that people like to shit on ocean and dpc (and there may be valid reasons at times) but development speed is not it. There arent many DAZ devs who consistently produce 500+ renders a month. Like barely any.

And at least Oceans renders are awesome (and dpc produces a loooooooooot of animations additionally).

Sometimes i feel like some guys would prefer 6 month updates with 1k renders over 12 month updates with 6k renders.

Are they stupid?
 

BobTheDuck

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If its really 6k or even 7k+ renders thats still fast even without considering the quality.

I get that people like to shit on ocean and dpc (and there may be valid reasons at times) but development speed is not it. There arent many DAZ devs who consistently produce 500+ renders a month. Like barely any.

And at least Oceans renders are awesome (and dpc produces a loooooooooot of animations additionally).

Sometimes i feel like some guys would prefer 6 month updates with 1k renders over 12 month updates with 6k renders.

Are they stupid?
Exactly. I'd rather have updates that offer a complete scenes with a cliffhanger of some sort leaving me waiting, than an update that just ends halfway through a scene to be out 'on time'. Given to anticipated scope of the album, It doesn't need even more cliff hangers every thousand renders.

Essentially people either want the content Ocean provides or they want their itch scratched. There's plenty of good looking games on the site to scratch an itch, so I do prefer the idea of letting Ocean tell it in his own way. My calendar isn't marked by AVN updates.
 
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