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6k renders is about half of season 1. Even with branching there will be a lot of progression. Katie's not going to be there are be mute, we're going to see things in the background of Ayua's studio, as well as whatever she says when she talks about it. Events with Zara are guaranteed to be training in some fashion, we're already getting vibes that they'll be going with Mila to check out the house, and there's the openning night of the bar. We have weird scenes with Noji at night as and in the spa, we have a day at college where Bella uses Claire's office (same top as the Ayua render where Bella's sleeping on NIka's shoulder, unless those are just renders Ocean did on the side).

I can't imagine we won't learn anything at all in that time, and that's not including spending time with Vanessa, who loves secrets, no mention of Sasha, who will be going semi nude modelling, not mentioning Nia's potential info after her bombshell, especially if you go with her for drinks, the coaches are currently pissed at Nika for missing a night of training...

There's almost too much to list. Same as in WiaB, the plot progresses from interaction - we know about Melanie because you ripped Zara's shirt in effect, then you bump into her sister/policeofficer. Something Ocean does in an interesting way is providing the information without making it sound like someone's written a play, there's very few weird expositions, things just happen.

Also the sad image of Ayua in class is after the studio event, so it'll be interesting to see how the interactions go - also, if we're NOT on Bella's path, do we have a different scene without her sleeping on Nika's shoulder?
I am sure there is gonna be progress, my reservations are on the how much will this update move the plot versus the characters relationship. Granted Ocean does integrates one with the other in a natural way, I just would prefer if it picked more steam. Regarding Bella, the two bond even if you don't show romantic interest and I think has a path where Bela likes you but you don't kiss so maybe the scene happens regardless of players choice.
 
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Perv or not doesn't matter, Nami and Nia are pervs. She is simply too much of a sugar hit. She doesn't seem like she'll disagree with Nika on anything, it's like having a cult follower with no boundaries o_O If Ocean gives he some boundaries I'd probably not be creeped out by her.

And her breasts being are hard as rocks in the renders of her topless at the movie night are anti-hot.
While I mostly agree, I do wonder if much of it is not just Vic faking it. Maja comments on how odd her behavior is, I think that its intentional and was far worse before the work. OG Vic was straight out scary. I also don't think that Vic is this super cute/nice person she straight ups guilty trips you to a date and will go after you even if you show interest in Mila, who is she most close person to her in the college. There is way more to Vic than just a broken bird.
 

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Perv or not doesn't matter, Nami and Nia are pervs. She is simply too much of a sugar hit. She doesn't seem like she'll disagree with Nika on anything, it's like having a cult follower with no boundaries o_O If Ocean gives he some boundaries I'd probably not be creeped out by her.

And her breasts being are hard as rocks in the renders of her topless at the movie night are anti-hot.
Hmm while she is obsessed (and a bit scary :ROFLMAO:) i disagree about that part. I dont like her that much but one of the few things i like about Vic is that she seems to have somewhat strong beliefs and is able to stand up (not literally) for them.

It wasnt Nika but i liked how she contradicted Mila when Mila badmouthed Nia for being a Camgirl with the reasoning that if Nia likes it, she isnt doing any harm to anyone doing it. I think she would have reacted the same if Nika would have made comments like Mila.

It's nice to start the day with some truth bombs. Could not agree more. I love sweet, kind and wholesome vanilla LI's but there is such a thing as too much of it. Also I feel like the game manipulates us a bit too much with her accident and current wheelchair bound status. I find myself unable to refuse her date proposal in every playthrough and I think I mostly do it out of pity. If she wasn't in such a fragile physical and mental state I wouldn't think twice about refusing her.

And then there's the salt on the wound, knowing that Vic's LI status is what's keeping Maja from being an LI :mad:

I've said it before, Sasha, Maja and Elsa are the 3 hottest characters in the game for me. Having to constantly discard or leave 2 of them out of discussions because they aren't planned LI's sucks ass! So I gotta make do with a top 3 of Bella, Nami and Sasha. Which isn't bad at all but...
I thought there are chances for Elsa being an LI? :cry:
 
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The LI list is based on the most recent thing Ocean has said about the status of the person in question. It's not a guide or foolproof, just the most recent public thing Ocean's said about any particular character. The problem is that since Ocean left this site, he's been very obscure about the status of LI's, and has chosen to keep people guessing. What that implies is Ocean doesn't want us to know, we have to play to find out. What the LI list does give us is some insights to Ocean's original intentions.

I'd say of now, there's a higher chance of Robin and Ayua being LI's or solid sides than when this was initially written. The throuple paths for example are likely to be a lot of work to develop, and having multiple throuples just for diversity, well, I think Ocean will cut some and focus on throuples that he considers important for the way the story could develop. He already dropped Maja because of the way he developed her character as someone who would never steal her sister's crush. But all of what is there is what Ocean has planned at some point, and it's the most recent statements we have. I'm sure when something becomes obviosu lonelyk will edit as confirmed info appears.
What I meant is that that post should tell what's currently in the game not what the dev promised or maybe make a clear distinction. Especially because of this:
Note: As of October 16, 2021, Ocean has said that the list of LIs can be expanded to more LIs but it is also possible that some LIs will be dropped, except for the eight that are listed as guaranteed.
For example both Victoria and Amber appear as LIs in that post. The post is accurate regarding Victoria because it can be seen in the game, but not in Amber's case. In her case there should be a "not yet" added, which would be removed when Amber's path eventually opens.

I also don't think that Vic is this super cute/nice person she straight ups guilty trips you to a date
It's Mila's fault, suggesting (out of the blue) during that lunch that Nika and Victoria should go on a date.
 
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Hmm while she is obsessed (and a bit scary :ROFLMAO:) i disagree about that part. I dont like her that much but one of the few things i like about Vic is that she seems to have somewhat strong beliefs and is able to stand up (not literally) for them.

It wasnt Nika but i liked how she contradicted Mila when Mila badmouthed Nia for being a Camgirl with the reasoning that if Nia likes it, she isnt doing any harm to anyone doing it. I think she would have reacted the same if Nika would have made comments like Mila.



I thought there are chances for Elsa being an LI? :cry:
That's the thing, I don't think Vic would contradict Nika, but would excuse him or try to see his point of view, because she's besotted. It doesn't make her unintelligent, but it makes her judgement regarding him suspect. She already looks for the best in everyone, her infatuation seems to go further. Maybe next time I do a play through, I'll look for any time she actually disagrees with or contradicts Nika.

Elsa, there are chances, but we don't know. Maybe Ocean's who wore it better contests are market research to see which character is considered hotter if he's tossing up between the two of them? I don't know if that's the case, but it's odd to do a who wore it better with two minor characters.... so fingers crossed?
 

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Perv or not doesn't matter, Nami and Nia are pervs. She is simply too much of a sugar hit. She doesn't seem like she'll disagree with Nika on anything, it's like having a cult follower with no boundaries o_O If Ocean gives he some boundaries I'd probably not be creeped out by her.

And her breasts being are hard as rocks in the renders of her topless at the movie night are anti-hot.
It's not her fault that they get hard when fully exposed to the air like some kind of odd substance, lol. But everyone always talking about that...and not about Zara's tits unearthed at the pool not moving one fucking bit lol. Most of them look good or decent in clothing. Then outside of it they lose any softness like some kind of damned silica gel :KEK:. I think he needs to work on that in season 2
 

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It's not her fault that they get hard when fully exposed to the air like some kind of odd substance, lol. But everyone always talking about that...and not about Zara's tits unearthed at the pool not moving one fucking bit lol. Most of them look good or decent in clothing. Then outside of it they lose any softness like some kind of damned silica gel :KEK:. I think he needs to work on that in season 2
Well, there was that devlog about boob physics he's playing with in blender, but I suspect that's going to be a while before he's finished his learning there.
 

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That's the thing, I don't think Vic would contradict Nika, but would excuse him or try to see his point of view, because she's besotted. It doesn't make her unintelligent, but it makes her judgement regarding him suspect. She already looks for the best in everyone, her infatuation seems to go further. Maybe next time I do a play through, I'll look for any time she actually disagrees with or contradicts Nika.

Elsa, there are chances, but we don't know. Maybe Ocean's who wore it better contests are market research to see which character is considered hotter if he's tossing up between the two of them? I don't know if that's the case, but it's odd to do a who wore it better with two minor characters.... so fingers crossed?
I think that it has some times where she say something along the line of "that is not a nice thing to say" to Nika when he makes some crass comment. I agree with you that her demeanor and behavior are really off putting, the reason that I overlook it is because I think it is something that Ocean will work on her character.
 

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Your LI list post should be edited so it matches current status, adding words like "is"/"will be" at least for the LIs section 'cause some of the girls' paths opened while others' not yet.
The LI list is based on the most recent thing Ocean has said about the status of the person in question. It's not a guide or foolproof, just the most recent public thing Ocean's said about any particular character. The problem is that since Ocean left this site, he's been very obscure about the status of LI's, and has chosen to keep people guessing. What that implies is Ocean doesn't want us to know, we have to play to find out. What the LI list does give us is some insights to Ocean's original intentions.

I'd say of now, there's a higher chance of Robin and Ayua being LI's or solid sides than when this was initially written. The throuple paths for example are likely to be a lot of work to develop, and having multiple throuples just for diversity, well, I think Ocean will cut some and focus on throuples that he considers important for the way the story could develop. He already dropped Maja because of the way he developed her character as someone who would never steal her sister's crush. But all of what is there is what Ocean has planned at some point, and it's the most recent statements we have. I'm sure when something becomes obviosu lonelyk will edit as confirmed info appears.
LI does not mean there are romance scenes already implemented, but that it is planned so you know this is leading somewhere. Ocean spends a lot of time on building his world and the characters, he also is building the relationships little by little. That doesn't mean you're not experiencing a romance story with a character before the first kiss...

Personally I'd wager the list has changed very little so far, with Ayua and especially Robin very likely still not making the cut. There were a few LIs Ocean had in mind that he had not revealed yet, that's the main things I expect would be different from the list. Otherwise, the scope of the game has not narrowed, so there is no reason to expect any LI has been removed. And there has not been a lot of spotlight on a non-LI character for one to become an Ocean favorite and become an unplanned LI like Nia in my opinion.
About throuples, he never planned many, probably no changes to that either but that's the part where I'm more hopeful that if he ever reaches the final steps of the game, he might be open to having a few more combos.
And yeah, still checking Discord from time to time but no big news so far.
 

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About the discussion about dwight and his relation to sasha i did took another look and noticed something

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Its the first day at college and Sasha and Dwight (and probably their driver) are standing in the background.

Is it only my imagination or does it look like Dwight is pointing at Nami and Nika in the second render? His arm/hand moves when the render switches.

And of course Noji and Sasha completly ignore each other despite being in the same bookclub.
 
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About the discussion about dwight and his relation to sasha i did took another look and noticed something

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Its the first day at college and Sasha and Dwight (and probably their driver) are standing in the background.

Is it only my imagination or does it look like Dwight is pointing at Nami and Nika in the second render? His arm/hand moves when the render switches.

And of course Noji and Sasha completly ignore each other despite being in the same bookclub.
good eye
 
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About the discussion about dwight and his relation to sasha i did took another look and noticed something

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Its the first day at college and Sasha and Dwight (and probably their driver) are standing in the background.

Is it only my imagination or does it look like Dwight is pointing at Nami and Nika in the second render? His arm/hand moves when the render switches.

And of course Noji and Sasha completly ignore each other despite being in the same bookclub.
Some people had point it out before, I am sure as both story develops we will see certain scenes in different light. But your post got me thinking, should not Bella recognize Nojiko ? I know is talked about how she rarely ever got to the meeting and once was drunken but she must have a idea of who the members are, or not ? I don't think Bella is hiding anything from the MC but in high sighting is a bit odd.
 

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About the discussion about dwight and his relation to sasha i did took another look and noticed something

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Its the first day at college and Sasha and Dwight (and probably their driver) are standing in the background.

Is it only my imagination or does it look like Dwight is pointing at Nami and Nika in the second render? His arm/hand moves when the render switches.

And of course Noji and Sasha completly ignore each other despite being in the same bookclub.
I noticed how Dwight and Sasha seemed close, but I never noticed this little detail, nor I can't remember anyone else mentioning it befoer. Good eye there.
 
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About the discussion about dwight and his relation to sasha i did took another look and noticed something

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Its the first day at college and Sasha and Dwight (and probably their driver) are standing in the background.

Is it only my imagination or does it look like Dwight is pointing at Nami and Nika in the second render? His arm/hand moves when the render switches.

And of course Noji and Sasha completly ignore each other despite being in the same bookclub.
I'd seen Dwight and Sasha connected before, but not heard anyone notice the arm movement. At this point, we've got to assume Dwight knows as much as Sasha does, and he is the older brother, already being in the first team while Sasha's in her first year. If Willi knocks up Elena, what's to say Dwight isn't actually the one with Willi's heritage? Just a thought, because none of the LI's in WiaB have kids, so if there are any wild WiaB oats, they'll likely be the eldest.

Dwight could be pointing because Nami's in the wrong uniform, and he'd be saying (maybe) "Hey Sash, you think that one's lost? She's at the wrong college." Or it could be "Hey Sash, isn't that someone from your bookclub?" Or "Hey Sash, that's the guy Katie's been telling us to look out for. He really needs a haircut, doesn't he." Or combinations of these :sneaky:

Some people had point it out before, I am sure as both story develops we will see certain scenes in different light. But your post got me thinking, should not Bella recognize Nojiko ? I know is talked about how she rarely ever got to the meeting and once was drunken but she must have a idea of who the members are, or not ? I don't think Bella is hiding anything from the MC but in high sighting is a bit odd.
You're right. Bella should. Noji also mentions Bella when she's dressing NIka down for triggering her. At that point though, Ocean's been careful to keep things plausible so we can't know ahead of the bookclub, in hindsight we now wonder why they're all pretending to be strangers. But also, Bella didn't go often, and Noji might have been absent that day. Regardless, Noji knows who Bella is and probably knows about Bella's sister - if the bookclub gossips about Sasha and Robert, Willi's escapades and Robin and Nika (already!), they're bound to have gossiped about Amber's other daughter.

Which means like Krytax points out, Sasha knowing Noji, Adri knowing Sasha, Adri knowing Ayua, we have to assume that the head families of the college know all the gossip in some fashion. They all get their hair done by Emilio (well, we know Ayua and Bella do, so it's probably a thing)... which means they all have connections to find out hidden details.

I noticed how Dwight and Sasha seemed close, but I never noticed this little detail, nor I can't remember anyone else mentioning it befoer. Good eye there.
It's been mentioned on and off for 2 years (which you commented on immediately after Edit: Sorry just realised you meant you'd not noticed the arm gesture, not that you didn't realise the scene, there goes MY attention to detail)

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Some people do indeed have extraordinary eyesight. What is amazing is the level of detail in the game. THe first one I remember someone pointing out was Katie's car driving by Nika and Nami at the bus stop. Then the dude (who might be in the first team) groping his friend's girl while Nika's being accosted by Nicole. Then seeing Desiree behind Nicole watching everything go down. So now we look for every screenshot of the redhead friend of Sasha, anyone with dyed white hair, redhead girl being in the clothing shop while Bella's buying NIka clothes, goth pizza girl (who is friends with Zara) etc. Anything blurry in the background is likely to be a clue or red herring that Ocean's dangling. Doing this he makes sure that when he introduces some characters, we've already seen them in the crowd somewhere, which helps the game feel more alive. This makes me wonder if we've seen Melanie in the background even if there's no reason for her to be around ZPR.

Sothing about people being in the background - Ocean's mentioned that the gossip will affect the game. So if you're caught with Robin because you touched Vic's hand and freaked out, some things happen, if you don't, Nicole doesn't stop Nika, there's no scene with Robin outside the gym, no photo of Nika and Robin, no Nami yelling about Nika fucking girls in the toilet at the pizza shop, no mention of Robin and Nika at the bookclub, so no deathstare from Charlie - all of that happens because you touch Vic's hand.

In a similar way, Ocean's placing familiar faces in the background so to prove that gossip can be heard. So the rehead knows that Bella took NIka shopping, and can see the makeover Bella forced NIka into. Some of it is not for conspiracy for the main plot, but to make sure there's plausible reasons for the gossip to spread.
 
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I'd seen Dwight and Sasha connected before, but not heard anyone notice the arm movement. At this point, we've got to assume Dwight knows as much as Sasha does, and he is the older brother, already being in the first team while Sasha's in her first year. If Willi knocks up Elena, what's to say Dwight isn't actually the one with Willi's heritage? Just a thought, because none of the LI's in WiaB have kids, so if there are any wild WiaB oats, they'll likely be the eldest.

Dwight could be pointing because Nami's in the wrong uniform, and he'd be saying (maybe) "Hey Sash, you think that one's lost? She's at the wrong college." Or it could be "Hey Sash, isn't that someone from your bookclub?" Or "Hey Sash, that's the guy Katie's been telling us to look out for. He really needs a haircut, doesn't he." Or combinations of these :sneaky:
Haha my first thought was maybe its about the uniform too but it would be kinda weird if dwight just casually points it out yet sasha isnt turning around to look at it. Dwight for sure has william's body and questionable fashion sense (wtf is he wearing hotpants? :ROFLMAO:)

Thought about Noji being the reason too, like Dwight: "Yo Sasha theres your bookclub buddy" while sasha is like: "Fuck her, im gonna ignore her and not aknowledge her existance, fucking plebs". Probably not it.

I think IF he is pointing at them Sasha's lack of reaction could indicate that shes deliberatly not looking at them/ignoring them like "shut the fuck up bro, we arent supposed to know them".

Which is still ... weird :ROFLMAO: How did all of this happen? Did all the Zane's, Noji and linked people meet and made this big strategy discussion how to fool nika and nami? :HideThePain:

Im so curious how all of this plays out lol, i really struggle to imagine how (and by whom) all of this was set up which could be either really good storytelling or really bad :ROFLMAO:

Bella offering Noji later on to use her (mothers) connection to Sasha's mom to get her a cheap price for the tennis club and Noji being all "Yeah nice, thank you so much" was kinda hilarious too in retroperspective.

I give bella the benefit of the doubt that she never did meet Noji at the bookclub (or doesnt remember her because she was drunk or simply didnt cared about the people) but Nojiko will have to come clean soon if she doesnt want to destroy Nika's trust into her imo.

That said i think Nojiko is solely acting in Nika's interest in this whole thing. Nojiko is more of a real loving mom than all the usual avn moms together despite being not even a fake landlady, i believe she puts Nika's and Nami's interests first like a real mom. The scenes how she got emotional when she brought them to their first college day or how she did sit with Nika in front of the house at night seem to strongly imply that.

I think she either doesnt want Nika to be connected to the criminal zane's (again) or considers Nika not ready to confront this topic (which she is probably right about looking at his panic attacks).
 

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Haha my first thought was maybe its about the uniform too but it would be kinda weird if dwight just casually points it out yet sasha isnt turning around to look at it. Dwight for sure has william's body and questionable fashion sense (wtf is he wearing hotpants? :ROFLMAO:)

Thought about Noji being the reason too, like Dwight: "Yo Sasha theres your bookclub buddy" while sasha is like: "Fuck her, im gonna ignore her and not aknowledge her existance, fucking plebs". Probably not it.

I think IF he is pointing at them Sasha's lack of reaction could indicate that shes deliberatly not looking at them/ignoring them like "shut the fuck up bro, we arent supposed to know them".

Which is still ... weird :ROFLMAO: How did all of this happen? Did all the Zane's, Noji and linked people meet and made this big strategy discussion how to fool nika and nami? :HideThePain:

Im so curious how all of this plays out lol, i really struggle to imagine how (and by whom) all of this was set up which could be either really good storytelling or really bad :ROFLMAO:

Bella offering Noji later on to use her (mothers) connection to Sasha's mom to get her a cheap price for the tennis club and Noji being all "Yeah nice, thank you so much" was kinda hilarious too in retroperspective.

I give bella the benefit of the doubt that she never did meet Noji at the bookclub (or doesnt remember her because she was drunk or simply didnt cared about the people) but Nojiko will have to come clean soon if she doesnt want to destroy Nika's trust into her imo.

That said i think Nojiko is solely acting in Nika's interest in this whole thing. Nojiko is more of a real loving mom than all the usual avn moms together despite being not even a fake landlady, i believe she puts Nika's and Nami's interests first like a real mom. The scenes how she got emotional when she brought them to their first college day or how she did sit with Nika in front of the house at night seem to strongly imply that.

I think she either doesnt want Nika to be connected to the criminal zane's (again) or considers Nika not ready to confront this topic (which she is probably right about looking at his panic attacks).
To some extent it's a case of Nika being Truman Burbank I guess, but I can also imagine Dwight saying all these things and Sasha just saying "I've got period cramps don't bother me" or something. It COULD be a completel conspiracy, but that doesn't align with Noji being a good caretaker. Either she wants what's best for them (in which case everyone else does too, and Noji's purely being over protective in regards to Katie) or she's in league to use Nika and her kindness is a front. For the conspiracy to work, Noji has to be on the same side as the Zanes and Petrovas. If we can see differences, it highly suggests everything has independent reasons - Dwight might be pointing Nika from a "oh hey that's the guy" sort of mentality, but what we saw of him in the bar suggests he's not a superficial character, despite what we see later. And Sasha is known for discrete sideways glances, so we can't be sure what she's ignoring or not. Ocean's basically showing that Dwight is aware of them, and every interaction with Sasha until the gym seems to be Sasha ignoring Nika, while her posse make eye contact and notice him. In fact, Sasha's avoidance of eye contact is kinda suspicious, but it could be from all kinds of things. We don't know how recently the thing with Robert was, she might also be withdrawn that day dealing with her own anxiety and needing to put on a good face.

Also, I'm thinking the suited dude is probably a driver, as he doesn't follow them, and we see Inessa the next day in the canteen.

About who knows who, Ocean's made it a significant point via the bookclub, so it will be some kind of revelation. It is too big a setup to be brushed aside, and I'm sure it's to do with Katie and Leia being bookclub members.
 

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Katie is indeed a member of the "club" judging by the confidence with which she puts Nadzika in her place, but Leia is not. She did not come to the "club" to drink wine and read a children's book. Leia started another game. It was during this visit that she set the condition for the women of the "club" that Nika and Nami should go to THIS college. Apparently, she has the trump cards in her hands that she can afford it. And the women of the "club" accepted her conditions.
 

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To some extent it's a case of Nika being Truman Burbank I guess, but I can also imagine Dwight saying all these things and Sasha just saying "I've got period cramps don't bother me" or something. It COULD be a completel conspiracy, but that doesn't align with Noji being a good caretaker. Either she wants what's best for them (in which case everyone else does too, and Noji's purely being over protective in regards to Katie) or she's in league to use Nika and her kindness is a front. For the conspiracy to work, Noji has to be on the same side as the Zanes and Petrovas. If we can see differences, it highly suggests everything has independent reasons - Dwight might be pointing Nika from a "oh hey that's the guy" sort of mentality, but what we saw of him in the bar suggests he's not a superficial character, despite what we see later. And Sasha is known for discrete sideways glances, so we can't be sure what she's ignoring or not. Ocean's basically showing that Dwight is aware of them, and every interaction with Sasha until the gym seems to be Sasha ignoring Nika, while her posse make eye contact and notice him. In fact, Sasha's avoidance of eye contact is kinda suspicious, but it could be from all kinds of things. We don't know how recently the thing with Robert was, she might also be withdrawn that day dealing with her own anxiety and needing to put on a good face.

Also, I'm thinking the suited dude is probably a driver, as he doesn't follow them, and we see Inessa the next day in the canteen.

About who knows who, Ocean's made it a significant point via the bookclub, so it will be some kind of revelation. It is too big a setup to be brushed aside, and I'm sure it's to do with Katie and Leia being bookclub members.
I agree mostly but disagree about the bold part, i think the most probable answer for nojiko hiding things is that shes trying to shield nika and while this could be considered not okay under normal circumstances, were talking here about a guy who barely had any social contact for 5 years and has regular panic attacks due to the smallest social pressure.

And its very possible that Nojiko and Katie have different views on whats best for Nika('s future). And its not far fetched that Nojiko thinks that Nika doesnt want to know about all this shit because that was very much his attitude in the first two chapters still. She mentioned knowing the Frohn's and Nika couldnt have given less of a fuck about it :ROFLMAO:

Only afterwards he got curious about all this shit but never communicated this towards Nojiko. We have to see what happens when Nika asks Nojiko about it or states his interest in all this stuff/connections.

But it has to be some kind of "conspiracy", we just dont know if its because of a blood relation or any other kind of relation between Nika/Nami and the Zanes/Wiab-Crew.

Nojiko know all these wiab people and keeps it hidden for some unknown reason and somehow she apparently is NOT in a position to restrict contact between Nika/Nami and the Zane's/Katie.

Katie is very serious and confrontative for just this one moment at the bookclub where she puts Nojiko in her place and making it clear that its not Nojiko's decision, at any other moment shes easy going. And Nojiko doesnt has an answer (like for example: Fuck you, they are my kids, and i brought them up.), she just shuts up and it seems to me that she recognizes Katie's "claim".

I think Nojiko was/is aware that she is not in a position to fight whats in store for Nika and Nami's futures but doesnt particulary like it.

But come on ...

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... she isnt faking it. Im 100% convinced Nojiko is genuine in her actions and beliefs :)

Going even more into speculatius territory, this render:

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could possibily be more than a "mom" wishing her kids luck watching them taking their first steps at college.

Shes letting them possibly go in more way than this, watching them taking their first steps (back?) into Zane, Petrova, Reverra territory.

Nami pointing out earlier that the only information about the college she found being people whining about being not accepted and the college having high prestige plays into that too.
 
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