Tremonia

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You cry too much. Have some dignity, Inmate.
Why don't you put that BMW guy on ignore like most of us already did? There's no sense in playing chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon will always traipse across the chessboard, knocking over all the pieces and strutting around like it's winning. It's not as if BMW guy is presenting new “arguments” here. He always says the same thing and when other users come up with better arguments or even facts, he distracts from the topic and doesn't even go into it. Just do yourself a favor and put him on the list. It's simply pointless with him.
 

BobTheDuck

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Maybe so, but we were discussing something a little different here. Why do you say that SG is a novel without sex? It was there and you know it very well, it was just removed and notice, when there was sex there were very few dissatisfied people, they started appearing after Ocean cut out all the adult scenes.


On the one hand, you write that Ocean doesn't deceive anyone and he's almost a saint. On the other hand, Ocean's Patreon donors write a bunch of obscene words about him. So who's right?

Donators say that Ocean promised to release a big update before the end of the year, I don't remember exactly 7000-8000 renders. Moreover, in almost every log, Ocean wrote what a great guy he is and how well and hard he works. In the end, it turned out that Patreons gave an average of more than $70,000 after the release of the last SG update, and they did not receive the promised update that was supposed to be released before the end of the year. Isn't that a scam? If Ocean were an honest guy, he would say that he decided to take a rest this year and not make games. He would not have received donations, but no one would have called him a milker, etc. Instead, he started lying and making up ridiculous excuses, like that he does 25-40 renders per night. Although Ocean previously wrote that 2x3090 does 1 render in 4.5 minutes (in addition, he has 4 more powerful video cards). You don't have to be a great mathematician to make a simple calculation that will show that Ocean's words are a lie. I won't write the rest, I've already done it before.

These arguments of Patreons are clear to me, they are logical and have justifications. When you express your point of view, you do not support your words with arguments, it looks like an attempt to justify Ocean. I also don't like the words of donors, but unfortunately they are true.

Here is my old message......


You've noticed correctly, Ocean really did have a successful year, but his fans who donated to him had the opposite. :HideThePain:

It's all useless and nothing will change, hundreds of people wrote to him, but Ocean doesn't care. And if you ask uncomfortable questions in Discord, you'll just get banned.

P.S. I've already written many times what I like about this game, you just don't read carefully.
I'll respond, because I did write to start with, but out of respect for other users I'll be brief:

- SG is a game without sex right now, and it is making more money right now than WiaB. It is that simple. One render of real porn in old ch 2 before rework, a couple of limp non erect dicks, one short assjob is nothing compared to the amount of sex scenes in WiaB. SG has never had more sex scenes than WiaB. SG is still more popular.

- I am pointing out that if there's no intention to deceive, Ocean merely misses his deadlines and it is up to him to keep his patrons happy. I can't keep his patrons happy. It's not about being a saint or a demon. You are using words that make it malicious, when you can't prove Ocean's intent.

- Yes, Ocean said he was going to release S2Ch1 this year, it's probably in a devlog. Ocean misses deadlines and puts more renders in, it happens. Fact is that an update of that size is over half the size of season 1 which is 12000 renders. Season 1 was released in May, ljust short of 6 months ago. Call up whatever numbers you like, but Ocean released Ch5 Beta last November, and the full season 1 with a reworked <2000 renders in May. There was already an SG update this year. Your numbers seem pretty outlandish if you think Ocean has recieved $70000 from patrons since May when Season 1 was released.

- The video card talk bores people. If you can't tell the difference, well, other people are getting more enjoyment from Ocean's new cards than you are, that's fine.

- Your arguments are just that. Why I asked what you like about SG is that you have repeated these arguments so much the entire thread could quote you with their eyes closed. You still avoid telling us what you like. That tells everyone what they need to know about your posts. You like repeating yourself about video cards and milking, why not about what you like?

You can have the last word if you want, it's fine.
 

alanrock

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Why don't you put that BMW guy on ignore like most of us already did? There's no sense in playing chess with a pigeon.
The pigeon will always traipse across the chessboard, knocking over all the pieces and strutting around like it's winning. It's not as if BMW guy is presenting new “arguments” here. He always says the same thing and when other users come up with better arguments or even facts, he distracts from the topic and doesn't even go into it. Just do yourself a favor and put him on the list. It's simply pointless with him.
His rehabilitation is going poorly, I admit.... lol.
Alex is an extraordinary troll-hater, but I enjoy teasing him from time to time just for fun.
 

TheDuke9999

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all i know is i am ready for some summers gone even if we dont care about summer anymore lets f'ing goooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
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Matt2012021

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Stop the press oceans is not gonna to hit a date about update at the end of year look could it still happen sure but given his track record with dates not holding my breath or gonna get upset about it updates for both his vn are gonna to take around a year for updates to come out far as for patron who people support is their business it's their money stop worrying about it
 

TheDuke9999

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Stop the press oceans is not gonna to hit a date about update at the end of year look could it still happen sure but given his track record with dates not holding my breath or gonna get upset about it updates for both his vn are gonna to take around a year for updates to come out far as for patron who people support is their business it's their money stop worrying about it
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StephanieD9

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I came back here after a long time and I'm confused... does S1 have Ch5 Beta + More content or...? or how many chapters in S1?
 
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BobTheDuck

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I came back here after a long time and I'm confused... does S1 have Ch5 Beta + More content or...? or many chapters in S1?
Season 1 is all the currently published content for SG, you only need Season 1. Mods for Ch5 Beta will NOT work for Season 1.

Some people don't like some of the changes from Ch4.5 or Ch5 Beta to Season 1, so they recommend different mods. But there is no guarantee that a save from a modded game will export properly to Season 2. If you have a copy of Ch4.5, you can always go and see the different content from before the rework, but if you don't remember it, just play Season 1 and don't worry.
 

yossa999

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I came back here after a long time and I'm confused... does S1 have Ch5 Beta + More content or...? or many chapters in S1?
Nah, the Season One has the same content in Ch5 as CH5Beta. What is changed: ~2000 brand new renders in CH2 to replace the old part from the moment when MC has to decide whether to break into the Holgersons' house with Bella or stay at home. And a few changed renders here and there in CH3, 3.5.
 

StephanieD9

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Season 1 is all the currently published content for SG, you only need Season 1. Mods for Ch5 Beta will NOT work for Season 1.

Some people don't like some of the changes from Ch4.5 or Ch5 Beta to Season 1, so they recommend different mods. But there is no guarantee that a save from a modded game will export properly to Season 2. If you have a copy of Ch4.5, you can always go and see the different content from before the rework, but if you don't remember it, just play Season 1 and don't worry.
Thank you. I will just try the S1 without any mods. Let's see how it is I've forgotten most of the story anyways

Nah, the Season One has the same content in Ch5 as CH5Beta. What is changed: ~2000 brand new renders in CH2 to replace the old part from the moment when MC has to decide whether to break into the Holgersons' house with Bella or stay at home. And a few changed renders here and there in CH3, 3.5.
Oh okay thank you. just wanted to know If I'll be missing out on smth if I download any of either versions. I'll go with S1
 

Tremonia

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Alex is an extraordinary troll-hater, but I enjoy teasing him from time to time just for fun.
Maybe it's fun for you, but the rest of us just don't want to see this...
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...every time. Think about the others too and help us keeping the thread clean. That would be much appreciated. Nobody has to endure trolls and because the mods don't give a fudge, we have to do it ourselves.
 

AlexFXR

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- SG is a game without sex right now, and it is making more money right now than WiaB. It is that simple. One render of real porn in old ch 2 before rework, a couple of limp non erect dicks, one short assjob is nothing compared to the amount of sex scenes in WiaB. SG has never had more sex scenes than WiaB. SG is still more popular.
I know that, but why did you start writing about sex? It seems like no one has touched on this topic.

- I am pointing out that if there's no intention to deceive, Ocean merely misses his deadlines and it is up to him to keep his patrons happy. I can't keep his patrons happy. It's not about being a saint or a demon. You are using words that make it malicious, when you can't prove Ocean's intent.
Of course there is an intention to deceive, which Ocean demonstrated in his logs, I even wrote this especially for you in the previous answer. From the very beginning, he did not plan to make these renders this year, he simply deceived fans by pumping money out of them. How do we know this? From his logs. How many renders did he make in 5 months? The correct answer is more than 2000. Why did his work speed drop more than 2 times, what is the reason for this slowdown? There are no reasons. He constantly wrote in the logs how productively he works. So how do you explain this deception and the 2-fold drop in work speed? You can't justify it in any way. Moreover, this explains well the reason why Ocean did not indicate the amount of work done in his logs, he only wrote about taxes and all sorts of crap.

Ocean misses deadlines and puts more renders in, it happens.
Yes, this happens, but it doesn't explain the reason why Ocean made 2000 renders when it should have made more than 5000.

Your numbers seem pretty outlandish if you think Ocean has recieved $70000 from patrons since May when Season 1 was released.
The problem is not the numbers, but that you read poorly... I didn't say anything about May.

- Your arguments are just that. Why I asked what you like about SG is that you have repeated these arguments so much the entire thread could quote you with their eyes closed. You still avoid telling us what you like. That tells everyone what they need to know about your posts. You like repeating yourself about video cards and milking, why not about what you like?
I write about everything, but for some reason you remembered my words about milking and video cards, apparently they interest you more than my preference in games, which I wrote earlier. Although this is not surprising, because you always justify any dirty deed of Ocean, even deception you try to present as a random event. Only he has too many of these random events.
 

codex35

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The SG Dev Log will be released in a few hours, together with the first full set.

The Bella set (Seraphic Decay) will be the first one to be released. I'm currently replacing two of the renders as they aren't up to my standard.

Every set has around 8 - 11 renders. Half of them are in a fantasy world like you see on the cover.

The other half plays in the "real world" and shows what it might look like if you two left the party together and you're now at your/her place.

The plan was to release them all on Halloween, but I started too late, 3 days ago to be exact. Creating ~50 Wallpaper-level renders along with my daily render quota for the game might not have been the smartest move, but it was fun.

I also woke up an hour ago. My sleep schedule is now where it belongs... IN THE BIN!

Worth it. I came up with some cool sets.

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"few hours" he is literally milking bmw guy is right :KEK:
 
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