VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[LHDLLB]

In Bella's specific case this discussion is kinda moot anyway imo, Ayua and Nadia were both completly dumbfounded when Nami told them that Nika and Bella kissed which strongly implies that Bella isnt someone who's looking for affetction from guys a lot.

But despite Bella's "open relationship" suggestion - which imo is just there because its a AVN and we have to get the possibilty to learn more about the other LI's first - i doubt it will be like most AVN's where its possible to fuck around without consquences.

These choices (going along with the 4-way kissing, going on a date with Vic, Mila and so on) will add on and at some point the LI's wont accept it, thats at least the impression i got from the avn so far.

I agree, but at the same time MC does not have a commitment with anyone. If we look at Bella's conversation at chapter 5 she evens takes well that you and Mila kissed, she more jokes about it than is upset. I don't expect too much consequences if you are not on a defined relationship, and is open about not wanting one, sure some LIs might not want have anyting with you but it is not a reason to hate you.

I have a save where I have gone after every single one of them, to see how much you can push. I wager that Bella and Nami will be the first ones to lock in a relationship, but until them I don't think we will have much problems.

 

[Pl@y3r]

It could be Nia that is the F to the MM, it could be Nadia. It could be Vanessa's dom route, and Nika ends up in her harem...

We simply don't know.

It could be Nojiko because: "nothing is ever set in stone".

Bella isnt someone who's looking for affetction from guys a lot.

And Nika told her something like she's the type of girl guys want to fuck but not date.

Or the cop woman / reporter and bella

"Nicole (reporter): not a LI"

 

[Krytax123]

I agree, but at the same time MC does not have a commitment with anyone. If we look at Bella's conversation at chapter 5 she evens takes well that you and Mila kissed, she more jokes about it than is upset. I don't expect too much consequences if you are not on a defined relationship, and is open about not wanting one, sure some LIs might not want have anyting with you but it is not a reason to hate you.

I have a save where I have gone after every single one of them, to see how much you can push. I wager that Bella and Nami will be the first ones to lock in a relationship, but until them I don't think we will have much problems.

Yeah but not having commitment still leaves the possibility open that some girls lose interest when youre too much of a manwhore (like sasha and i think bella too).

And Bella is contradicting herself all the fucking time, her words and actions doesnt fit each other. She says she doesnt want commitment, yet she's the most territorial one of all the LI's so far.

Remember how she straddles Nika as soon as Mila joins the gym when you go training with Bella

Or this scene:



Shes like: "He's mine, get lost bitches!" while she told Nika like one minute earlier that they cant be together.

So yeah, she may has said that but Bella says a lot of stuff to try to not be vulnerable. This wont stop her to fight off any other girl who gets Nika's attention and there will be drama if the player keeps dating multiple girls imo

But i think thats great, most avn's lack LI's being territorial or jealous because they dont want to make the player feel bad/guilty but imo it makes LI's way more realistic and immersive when they do behave like that.

 

[LHDLLB]

Yeah but not having commitment still leaves the possibility open that some girls lose interest when youre too much of a manwhore (like sasha and i think bella too).

And Bella is contradicting herself all the fucking time, her words and actions doesnt fit each other. She says she doesnt want commitment, yet she's the most territorial one of all the LI's so far.

Remember how she straddles Nika as soon as Mila joins the gym when you go training with Bella

Or this scene:

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Shes like: "He's mine, get lost bitches!" while she told Nika like one minute earlier that they cant be together.

So yeah, she may has said that but Bella says a lot of stuff to try to not be vulnerable. This wont stop her to fight off any other girl who gets Nika's attention and there will be drama if the player keeps dating multiple girls imo

But i think thats great, most avn's lack LI's being territorial or jealous because they dont want to make the player feel bad/guilty but imo it makes LI's way more realistic and immersive when they do behave like that.

I completely agree, with everything, my comment was on the note of LIs hating you. I have no doubt that Bella and Nami will become territorial, but at this point I think it will trigger them to "oficialize" the relationship rather than break up it. Because sure Bella can get mad about it, but she can't blame you if she was the the one who suggest a no strings attached relationship.

Also Bella here is acting that way because of Kate, she have a role to play on Bella's path as they have a history. And so far as LI being not interesting in you, I think this will happen no matter what, Zara does not likes Nika if he don't go to the gym, I think that many decision will decide of the LIs are interested or not.

 

[Krytax123]

Zara does not likes Nika if he don't go to the gym, I think that many decision will decide of the LIs are interested or not.

Haha i have never played a no gym path, why does the possibility even exist? Do the competition and so on with Zara just not happen and you lose every basketball game?

Maybe Vic will prefer it when Nika is a cripple too

 

[LHDLLB]

Haha i have never played a no gym path, why does the possibility even exist? Do the competition and so on with Zara just not happen and you lose every basketball game?

Maybe Vic will prefer it when Nika is a cripple too

I have only one save, this I didn't go to the gym and did not pursue anyone. I don't know, I don't think you will lose every game but it takes track of your body strength and flexibility so it will have impacts down the road. The Zara competitio still happens.

Nah Vic likes Mc strong so he can carry her around, in fact carrying Vic counts as a workout and increases Nika's strength.

 

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Is he waiting to release the full sets or are they out already? Looks great so far.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

Is he waiting to release the full sets or are they out already? Looks great so far.

So far, just these two via Discord.

Cheers!!

 

[BobTheDuck]

I completely agree, with everything, my comment was on the note of LIs hating you. I have no doubt that Bella and Nami will become territorial, but at this point I think it will trigger them to "oficialize" the relationship rather than break up it. Because sure Bella can get mad about it, but she can't blame you if she was the the one who suggest a no strings attached relationship.

Also Bella here is acting that way because of Kate, she have a role to play on Bella's path as they have a history. And so far as LI being not interesting in you, I think this will happen no matter what, Zara does not likes Nika if he don't go to the gym, I think that many decision will decide of the LIs are interested or not.

She actually can blame you. Blame doesn't have to be justified. If she feels betrayed even if it was no strings, how would you persuade her to stay? Plus the other LI question you if you've kissed her warning you that things will turn out bad if you're playing the field. I'm pretty sure Bella's quite have to make choices about Nika that are illogical and based purely on feelings, both good and bad decisions.

Given Ocean's attention to detail, I'd hope he'd allow more than one choice to get on an LI's path; in real life if you only had one opportunity to make a relationship, it's probably not sustainable anyway, so I'm sure Bella, Nami, whoever, all have tolerance for Nika to a level, but tolerance for him playing around is likely to be in short supply, official or not.

 

[LHDLLB]

She actually can blame you. Blame doesn't have to be justified. If she feels betrayed even if it was no strings, how would you persuade her to stay? Plus the other LI question you if you've kissed her warning you that things will turn out bad if you're playing the field. I'm pretty sure Bella's quite have to make choices about Nika that are illogical and based purely on feelings, both good and bad decisions.

Given Ocean's attention to detail, I'd hope he'd allow more than one choice to get on an LI's path; in real life if you only had one opportunity to make a relationship, it's probably not sustainable anyway, so I'm sure Bella, Nami, whoever, all have tolerance for Nika to a level, but tolerance for him playing around is likely to be in short supply, official or not.

Well I can see from where you are coming from, but she has no grounds to feel betrayed as there was no promise of fidelity by her suggestion. If she felt that way I would like to have an option to point that out, if she did not intent to have a no strings attached relationship she should not have suggested one. Regarding other LIs, I have no doubts about it, it will come to bite you in the ass if you try to bang the entire college and their mothers but we still are not at this point yet, most relationship are just starting, Nika's dick still is not working and half of the LIs did not get a ligth to shine on.

I think so too, I don't see a reason why you should be lock out of Zara's path so early on, my point was on the lines that you will probably - or so I hope - not be able to make all LIs falling in love in a single playthrough as different LIs have different Nika they might prefer. So Sasha might like a more refined MC where Vic a mkre gentle one or there will be choices in the story where will block a LI path or nake it harder, case in point the gym choice to Zara

 

[BobTheDuck]

Well I can see from where you are coming from, but she has no grounds to feel betrayed as there was no promise of fidelity by her suggestion. If she felt that way I would like to have an option to point that out, if she did not intent to have a no strings attached relationship she should not have suggested one. Regarding other LIs, I have no doubts about it, it will come to bite you in the ass if you try to bang the entire college and their mothers but we still are not at this point yet, most relationship are just starting, Nika's dick still is not working and half of the LIs did not get a ligth to shine on.

I think so too, I don't see a reason why you should be lock out of Zara's path so early on, my point was on the lines that you will probably - or so I hope - not be able to make all LIs falling in love in a single playthrough as different LIs have different Nika they might prefer. So Sasha might like a more refined MC where Vic a mkre gentle one or there will be choices in the story where will block a LI path or nake it harder, case in point the gym choice to Zara

What people say and what people do are two different things. Bella might say she doesn't want strings (yet), but that is her fear of commitment speaking. It is not her heart speaking. She will feel betrayed, because she is actually smitten. End of Ch5 shows how smitten. She's just not willing to go out on the limb.

It might seem reasonable to say, "well, we weren't exclusive", but if she gets offended, it doesn't matter why, she'll walk away, and leave all the reasonable logic behind to keep Nika company. Nika's reasons will likely not be as exciting without her to argue with.

 

[LHDLLB]

What people say and what people do are two different things. Bella might say she doesn't want strings (yet), but that is her fear of commitment speaking. It is not her heart speaking. She will feel betrayed, because she is actually smitten. End of Ch5 shows how smitten. She's just not willing to go out on the limb.

It might seem reasonable to say, "well, we weren't exclusive", but if she gets offended, it doesn't matter why, she'll walk away, and leave all the reasonable logic behind to keep Nika company. Nika's reasons will likely not be as exciting without her to argue with.

I agree with everything that you said, this is why I said that she will get mad. I can understand Bella's reasoning, and I do, but at the same time I don't feel obliged to be faithful to her when she is not ready to be commited, they are young but when you said one thing you should be willing to back it up.And I think that Bella is mature enough to understand it, sure she might not like it but I don't think she will see it as a break of trust, going by her reaction to the Mila kiss. How it will affect their relationship I don't know, right now I don't think it will much, but I don't expect to be like that for much long.

 

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[TheDuke9999]

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thats wonderful... im so happy ... was there anything there about getting an update before 2026 cause other than that this is all canon fodder

 

[Pl@y3r]

thats wonderful... im so happy ... was there anything there about getting an update before 2026 cause other than that this is all canon fodder

2026? You mean 2025? From latest dev log (there should be a new one today): "By my current estimations, the PC can’t match the quota to release before the end of the year."

 

[AlexFXR]

2026? You mean 2025? From latest dev log (there should be a new one today): "By my current estimations, the PC can’t match the quota to release before the end of the year."

the problem is not in PC, but in the fact that Ocean started to get lazy and milk his fans.

 

[TheDuke9999]

the problem is not in PC, but in the fact that Ocean started to get lazy and milk his fans.

i wouldnt say he milks his fans cause they throw money at him . which is everyones choice. and yes i would love faster updates also he is working on 2 of the best VN's and every update is normally huge.. lots of play time. but yes it does get fustrating because they are both so good lol

 

[alanrock]

the problem is not in PC, but in the fact that Ocean started to get lazy and milk his fans.

If this is called milking, what exactly are other AVN devs doing?
We need to come up with new terminology.

 

[AlexFXR]

i wouldnt say he milks his fans cause they throw money at him . which is everyones choice. and yes i would love faster updates also he is working on 2 of the best VN's and every update is normally huge.. lots of play time. but yes it does get fustrating because they are both so good lol

Here you are wrong. The fans give money for the development of SG, and not because Ocean has a beautiful smile and honest eyes. If you were right, the fans would be happy now, and would not curse Ocean and call him a liar. If you did not understand, then we are not talking about fans like you and me who get games for free, but about those who pay money. You can check on Patreon, people have started leaving Ocean again.