VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[LHDLLB]

She actually can blame you. Blame doesn't have to be justified. If she feels betrayed even if it was no strings, how would you persuade her to stay? Plus the other LI question you if you've kissed her warning you that things will turn out bad if you're playing the field. I'm pretty sure Bella's quite have to make choices about Nika that are illogical and based purely on feelings, both good and bad decisions.

Given Ocean's attention to detail, I'd hope he'd allow more than one choice to get on an LI's path; in real life if you only had one opportunity to make a relationship, it's probably not sustainable anyway, so I'm sure Bella, Nami, whoever, all have tolerance for Nika to a level, but tolerance for him playing around is likely to be in short supply, official or not.

Well I can see from where you are coming from, but she has no grounds to feel betrayed as there was no promise of fidelity by her suggestion. If she felt that way I would like to have an option to point that out, if she did not intent to have a no strings attached relationship she should not have suggested one. Regarding other LIs, I have no doubts about it, it will come to bite you in the ass if you try to bang the entire college and their mothers but we still are not at this point yet, most relationship are just starting, Nika's dick still is not working and half of the LIs did not get a ligth to shine on.

I think so too, I don't see a reason why you should be lock out of Zara's path so early on, my point was on the lines that you will probably - or so I hope - not be able to make all LIs falling in love in a single playthrough as different LIs have different Nika they might prefer. So Sasha might like a more refined MC where Vic a mkre gentle one or there will be choices in the story where will block a LI path or nake it harder, case in point the gym choice to Zara

 

[BobTheDuck]

Well I can see from where you are coming from, but she has no grounds to feel betrayed as there was no promise of fidelity by her suggestion. If she felt that way I would like to have an option to point that out, if she did not intent to have a no strings attached relationship she should not have suggested one. Regarding other LIs, I have no doubts about it, it will come to bite you in the ass if you try to bang the entire college and their mothers but we still are not at this point yet, most relationship are just starting, Nika's dick still is not working and half of the LIs did not get a ligth to shine on.

I think so too, I don't see a reason why you should be lock out of Zara's path so early on, my point was on the lines that you will probably - or so I hope - not be able to make all LIs falling in love in a single playthrough as different LIs have different Nika they might prefer. So Sasha might like a more refined MC where Vic a mkre gentle one or there will be choices in the story where will block a LI path or nake it harder, case in point the gym choice to Zara

What people say and what people do are two different things. Bella might say she doesn't want strings (yet), but that is her fear of commitment speaking. It is not her heart speaking. She will feel betrayed, because she is actually smitten. End of Ch5 shows how smitten. She's just not willing to go out on the limb.

It might seem reasonable to say, "well, we weren't exclusive", but if she gets offended, it doesn't matter why, she'll walk away, and leave all the reasonable logic behind to keep Nika company. Nika's reasons will likely not be as exciting without her to argue with.

 

[LHDLLB]

What people say and what people do are two different things. Bella might say she doesn't want strings (yet), but that is her fear of commitment speaking. It is not her heart speaking. She will feel betrayed, because she is actually smitten. End of Ch5 shows how smitten. She's just not willing to go out on the limb.

It might seem reasonable to say, "well, we weren't exclusive", but if she gets offended, it doesn't matter why, she'll walk away, and leave all the reasonable logic behind to keep Nika company. Nika's reasons will likely not be as exciting without her to argue with.

I agree with everything that you said, this is why I said that she will get mad. I can understand Bella's reasoning, and I do, but at the same time I don't feel obliged to be faithful to her when she is not ready to be commited, they are young but when you said one thing you should be willing to back it up.And I think that Bella is mature enough to understand it, sure she might not like it but I don't think she will see it as a break of trust, going by her reaction to the Mila kiss. How it will affect their relationship I don't know, right now I don't think it will much, but I don't expect to be like that for much long.

 

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[TheDuke9999]

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thats wonderful... im so happy ... was there anything there about getting an update before 2026 cause other than that this is all canon fodder

 

[Pl@y3r]

thats wonderful... im so happy ... was there anything there about getting an update before 2026 cause other than that this is all canon fodder

2026? You mean 2025? From latest dev log (there should be a new one today): "By my current estimations, the PC can’t match the quota to release before the end of the year."

 

[AlexFXR]

2026? You mean 2025? From latest dev log (there should be a new one today): "By my current estimations, the PC can’t match the quota to release before the end of the year."

the problem is not in PC, but in the fact that Ocean started to get lazy and milk his fans.

 

[TheDuke9999]

the problem is not in PC, but in the fact that Ocean started to get lazy and milk his fans.

i wouldnt say he milks his fans cause they throw money at him . which is everyones choice. and yes i would love faster updates also he is working on 2 of the best VN's and every update is normally huge.. lots of play time. but yes it does get fustrating because they are both so good lol

 

[alanrock]

the problem is not in PC, but in the fact that Ocean started to get lazy and milk his fans.

If this is called milking, what exactly are other AVN devs doing?
We need to come up with new terminology.

 

[AlexFXR]

i wouldnt say he milks his fans cause they throw money at him . which is everyones choice. and yes i would love faster updates also he is working on 2 of the best VN's and every update is normally huge.. lots of play time. but yes it does get fustrating because they are both so good lol

Here you are wrong. The fans give money for the development of SG, and not because Ocean has a beautiful smile and honest eyes. If you were right, the fans would be happy now, and would not curse Ocean and call him a liar. If you did not understand, then we are not talking about fans like you and me who get games for free, but about those who pay money. You can check on Patreon, people have started leaving Ocean again.

 

[RNasc4444]

i wouldnt say he milks his fans cause they throw money at him . which is everyones choice

Imagine if he actually added some sex scenes. He could be getting 3x the money easy. Braindead people are easily parted with their money. Just yesterday on the other game's thread there was a dude who apparently played through all of SG and didn't even notice Katie makes an appearance. You have to be playing with what little brain you have completely turned off, no? Now multiply him by the thousands. You wouldn't give a child a Dostoiévski novel, but if you give them a picture book they will have the time of their life

also he is working on 2 of the best VN's and every update is normally huge.. lots of play time. but yes it does get fustrating because they are both so good lol

 

[alanrock]

Here you are wrong. The fans give money for the development of SG, and not because Ocean has a beautiful smile and honest eyes. If you were right, the fans would be happy now, and would not curse Ocean and call him a liar. If you did not understand, then we are not talking about fans like you and me who get games for free, but about those who pay money. You can check on Patreon, people have started leaving Ocean again.

Which people are leaving his Patreon, and why do you always lie ?!... lol.

 

[codex35]

Which people are leaving his Patreon, and why do you always lie ?!... lol.

he is delusional and obsessive with this game just ignore him

 

[AlexFXR]

If this is called milking, what exactly are other AVN devs doing?
We need to come up with new terminology.

Of course there are scammers on Patreon who milk their fans. But Ocean doesn't consider himself a scammer, he wants to be one of the best developers of games like DPC. And he would have achieved this without any problems if he hadn't broken the rules that can't be broken.

Why change the terminology? Other developers also promise to release a game by the end of the year, but instead do nothing and take fans' money? This fits the term "Milking", nothing to change.

 

[AlexFXR]

Which people are leaving his Patreon, and why do you always lie ?!... lol.

Here are Ocean's stats for the last month. So who's the liar now?

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[Dr.TSoni]

You wouldn't give a child a Dostoiévski novel, but if you give them a picture book they will have the time of their life

 

[alanrock]

Of course there are scammers on Patreon who milk their fans. But Ocean doesn't consider himself a scammer, he wants to be one of the best developers of games like DPC. And he would have achieved this without any problems if he hadn't broken the rules that can't be broken.

Why change the terminology? Other developers also promise to release a game by the end of the year, but instead do nothing and take fans' money? This fits the term "Milking", nothing to change.

DPC earns millions while doing the same amount or even less work than Ocean. You must be one of his devoted fans...lol

Others earn ten times more than Ocean by releasing 300 render updates every three years, and yet you’ve chosen this thread as your regular spot for trolling.

 

[yossa999]

Imagine if he actually added some sex scenes. He could be getting 3x the money easy. Braindead people are easily parted with their money. Just yesterday on the other game's thread there was a dude who apparently played through all of SG and didn't even notice Katie makes an appearance. You have to be playing with what little brain you have completely turned off, no? Now multiply him by the thousands. You wouldn't give a child a Dostoiévski novel, but if you give them a picture book they will have the time of their life

At first you crack jokes when I say that the Ocean's games probably have the best writing that AVN genre has to offer. However, when I say this, I don't mean the greatness of his genius , but rather the poverty of the entire AVN genre in terms of plots and scenarios. (Although it's unfair to demand anything more from a mutant scion borned from incest of comics, sitcoms and adventure computer games from the 90s)

And now you compare it to Dostoevsky. Fuck, that's too much even for me.

 

[alanrock]

Here are Ocean's stats for the last month. So who's the liar now?

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At the release of Season 1, he had around 1500 Patrons, and now he has about 1300, which is still quite good.
Stop talking nonsense and pray for more Bella scenes in Season 2, you ungrateful pirate.

 

[AlexFXR]

DPC earns millions while doing the same amount or even less work than Ocean. You must be one of his devoted fans...lol
Others earn ten times more than Ocean by releasing 300 render updates every three years

If Ocean hadn't deceived his fans and cheated them out of money, he would have become a millionaire too.

and yet you’ve chosen this thread as your regular spot for trolling.

You don't care about the theft and the fraud and the people who get cheated, but for some reason you care about it being told when you're trying to hide it. Why are you trying to justify Ocean's bad behavior?