VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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LHDLLB

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Krytax123 said:
Haha i have never played a no gym path, why does the possibility even exist? :ROFLMAO: Do the competition and so on with Zara just not happen and you lose every basketball game?

Maybe Vic will prefer it when Nika is a cripple too :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::eek:
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I have only one save, this I didn't go to the gym and did not pursue anyone. I don't know, I don't think you will lose every game but it takes track of your body strength and flexibility so it will have impacts down the road. The Zara competitio still happens.

Nah Vic likes Mc strong so he can carry her around, in fact carrying Vic counts as a workout and increases Nika's strength.
 
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LHDLLB said:
I completely agree, with everything, my comment was on the note of LIs hating you. I have no doubt that Bella and Nami will become territorial, but at this point I think it will trigger them to "oficialize" the relationship rather than break up it. Because sure Bella can get mad about it, but she can't blame you if she was the the one who suggest a no strings attached relationship.

Also Bella here is acting that way because of Kate, she have a role to play on Bella's path as they have a history. And so far as LI being not interesting in you, I think this will happen no matter what, Zara does not likes Nika if he don't go to the gym, I think that many decision will decide of the LIs are interested or not.
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She actually can blame you. Blame doesn't have to be justified. If she feels betrayed even if it was no strings, how would you persuade her to stay? Plus the other LI question you if you've kissed her warning you that things will turn out bad if you're playing the field. I'm pretty sure Bella's quite have to make choices about Nika that are illogical and based purely on feelings, both good and bad decisions.

Given Ocean's attention to detail, I'd hope he'd allow more than one choice to get on an LI's path; in real life if you only had one opportunity to make a relationship, it's probably not sustainable anyway, so I'm sure Bella, Nami, whoever, all have tolerance for Nika to a level, but tolerance for him playing around is likely to be in short supply, official or not.
 
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BobTheDuck said:
She actually can blame you. Blame doesn't have to be justified. If she feels betrayed even if it was no strings, how would you persuade her to stay? Plus the other LI question you if you've kissed her warning you that things will turn out bad if you're playing the field. I'm pretty sure Bella's quite have to make choices about Nika that are illogical and based purely on feelings, both good and bad decisions.

Given Ocean's attention to detail, I'd hope he'd allow more than one choice to get on an LI's path; in real life if you only had one opportunity to make a relationship, it's probably not sustainable anyway, so I'm sure Bella, Nami, whoever, all have tolerance for Nika to a level, but tolerance for him playing around is likely to be in short supply, official or not.
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Well I can see from where you are coming from, but she has no grounds to feel betrayed as there was no promise of fidelity by her suggestion. If she felt that way I would like to have an option to point that out, if she did not intent to have a no strings attached relationship she should not have suggested one. Regarding other LIs, I have no doubts about it, it will come to bite you in the ass if you try to bang the entire college and their mothers but we still are not at this point yet, most relationship are just starting, Nika's dick still is not working and half of the LIs did not get a ligth to shine on.

I think so too, I don't see a reason why you should be lock out of Zara's path so early on, my point was on the lines that you will probably - or so I hope - not be able to make all LIs falling in love in a single playthrough as different LIs have different Nika they might prefer. So Sasha might like a more refined MC where Vic a mkre gentle one or there will be choices in the story where will block a LI path or nake it harder, case in point the gym choice to Zara
 
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LHDLLB said:
Well I can see from where you are coming from, but she has no grounds to feel betrayed as there was no promise of fidelity by her suggestion. If she felt that way I would like to have an option to point that out, if she did not intent to have a no strings attached relationship she should not have suggested one. Regarding other LIs, I have no doubts about it, it will come to bite you in the ass if you try to bang the entire college and their mothers but we still are not at this point yet, most relationship are just starting, Nika's dick still is not working and half of the LIs did not get a ligth to shine on.

I think so too, I don't see a reason why you should be lock out of Zara's path so early on, my point was on the lines that you will probably - or so I hope - not be able to make all LIs falling in love in a single playthrough as different LIs have different Nika they might prefer. So Sasha might like a more refined MC where Vic a mkre gentle one or there will be choices in the story where will block a LI path or nake it harder, case in point the gym choice to Zara
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What people say and what people do are two different things. Bella might say she doesn't want strings (yet), but that is her fear of commitment speaking. It is not her heart speaking. She will feel betrayed, because she is actually smitten. End of Ch5 shows how smitten. She's just not willing to go out on the limb.

It might seem reasonable to say, "well, we weren't exclusive", but if she gets offended, it doesn't matter why, she'll walk away, and leave all the reasonable logic behind to keep Nika company. Nika's reasons will likely not be as exciting without her to argue with.
 
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BobTheDuck said:
What people say and what people do are two different things. Bella might say she doesn't want strings (yet), but that is her fear of commitment speaking. It is not her heart speaking. She will feel betrayed, because she is actually smitten. End of Ch5 shows how smitten. She's just not willing to go out on the limb.

It might seem reasonable to say, "well, we weren't exclusive", but if she gets offended, it doesn't matter why, she'll walk away, and leave all the reasonable logic behind to keep Nika company. Nika's reasons will likely not be as exciting without her to argue with.
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I agree with everything that you said, this is why I said that she will get mad. I can understand Bella's reasoning, and I do, but at the same time I don't feel obliged to be faithful to her when she is not ready to be commited, they are young but when you said one thing you should be willing to back it up.And I think that Bella is mature enough to understand it, sure she might not like it but I don't think she will see it as a break of trust, going by her reaction to the Mila kiss. How it will affect their relationship I don't know, right now I don't think it will much, but I don't expect to be like that for much long.
 
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AlexFXR said:
the problem is not in PC, but in the fact that Ocean started to get lazy and milk his fans.
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i wouldnt say he milks his fans cause they throw money at him . which is everyones choice. and yes i would love faster updates also he is working on 2 of the best VN's and every update is normally huge.. lots of play time. but yes it does get fustrating because they are both so good lol
 
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i wouldnt say he milks his fans cause they throw money at him . which is everyones choice. and yes i would love faster updates also he is working on 2 of the best VN's and every update is normally huge.. lots of play time. but yes it does get fustrating because they are both so good lol
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Here you are wrong. The fans give money for the development of SG, and not because Ocean has a beautiful smile and honest eyes. If you were right, the fans would be happy now, and would not curse Ocean and call him a liar. If you did not understand, then we are not talking about fans like you and me who get games for free, but about those who pay money. You can check on Patreon, people have started leaving Ocean again.
 
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theduke9999 said:
i wouldnt say he milks his fans cause they throw money at him . which is everyones choice
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Imagine if he actually added some sex scenes. He could be getting 3x the money easy. Braindead people are easily parted with their money. Just yesterday on the other game's thread there was a dude who apparently played through all of SG and didn't even notice Katie makes an appearance. You have to be playing with what little brain you have completely turned off, no? Now multiply him by the thousands. You wouldn't give a child a Dostoiévski novel, but if you give them a picture book they will have the time of their life :ROFLMAO:

theduke9999 said:
also he is working on 2 of the best VN's and every update is normally huge.. lots of play time. but yes it does get fustrating because they are both so good lol
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AlexFXR said:
Here you are wrong. The fans give money for the development of SG, and not because Ocean has a beautiful smile and honest eyes. If you were right, the fans would be happy now, and would not curse Ocean and call him a liar. If you did not understand, then we are not talking about fans like you and me who get games for free, but about those who pay money. You can check on Patreon, people have started leaving Ocean again.
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Which people are leaving his Patreon, and why do you always lie ?!... lol.
 
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alanrock said:
If this is called milking, what exactly are other AVN devs doing?
We need to come up with new terminology.
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Of course there are scammers on Patreon who milk their fans. But Ocean doesn't consider himself a scammer, he wants to be one of the best developers of games like DPC. And he would have achieved this without any problems if he hadn't broken the rules that can't be broken.

Why change the terminology? Other developers also promise to release a game by the end of the year, but instead do nothing and take fans' money? This fits the term "Milking", nothing to change.
 
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