Yeah dunno how i feel about Summer but im sure she would have been simply dead if ocean didnt had any intention to bring her back sooner or later.
Well, it really depends on how Emilia is introduced and if Noji is introduced in WiaB. What if Noji was a student trying to pay her way through med school and got employment at Leia's club? She then shuts off that part of her life, but keeps the wild friend who goes and maybe becomes a pornstar in WIlli and Zoeys porn studio idea (if that happens). If it's Emilie, the chance is certainly there, slight change of story... she certainly seems antagonistic to the Zanes, maybe she felt used and dumped by them?
When I think Summer can be an endless mystery, I'm kinda thinking of things like Twin Peaks, or Jeff Vandermeer's writings. There's something compelling about always being on the verge of understanding what is happening, but never getting the full picture. BUt that's just my preference. The length of development has made it hard for Ocean to have a simple explanation though, we have to be "wow! outrageous! such applause!" for it to be a satisfying explanation. If Emilio just gives Nika an email address after 10 minutes search, that would punk us cruelly. I personally prefer her remaining a memory haunting Nika, but I don't get to chose.Im kinda whatever about summer, she can stay away or come back (if the comeback is good and not cringe/stereotype) but there really nees to be some closure/explanation at some point imo otherwise this is all too nonsensical.
I think it would have worked best (exploring mental health problems) if summer simply would have died but it doesnt look like that case and if shes alive, she will come back at some point anyway.
I would hate the Zane's as antagonists, they have way to much advantages and the odds would be stacked way too much against Nika, and him still being able to handle that (despite all his problems) would feel cringe/undeserved/mary sue like.
Even more as all his sheming skills and his cunning just really really sucks ass, all his ideas in this department are super idiotic immature bullshit lmao (its similar to young willy
I kiiiinda maaaaaaybe like the idea of Nika and Nami being kids of the wiab antagonist(s), would still make Nika somewhat of a "prince" but of a dead legacy/lineage.
I disagree about this, and people like Emilia are there because its not (just) a bookclub, its more like a unisex gentlemens club, yeah they read books but its mainly to chat and to establish or keep connections. These are (partially) powerful women and not bored housewifes.
Add Claire, Nojiko, Katie, Amber, Sasha, Robin, adriana (problabl Miru's daughter), maybe Emilia to that list and whos left at this point anymore?
Oh yes, I was just thinking the other day (just two days ago, to be exact) how many similarities there actually are between Summer's Gone and Twin Peaks while listening Twin Peaks soundtrack music (the official release and other musical pieces featured in the series) - one of my all time favorite TV series.
Haha for me it would feel more like the shows "Lost" or "The blacklist", endless mystery without (or with utterly shit) reward in the end. I really really REALLY hate stuff like that
Yeah i could imagine something like the zane's rushing the antagonists mansion in the end, killing everyone inside and the end is William seeing a 3 year old Nika and Nami sitting next to the bed where he just killed their parents.
and im not sure if it would be this cool myself, just trying to come up with more original solutions lolI thought that was kinda obvious wasnt it? These arent random people who joined a bookclub and did meet each other there. The bookclub seems to be a creation of the zpr + their kids and "friends" conglomerate and i think its exactly like you mentioned that there are multiple locations like that.
Oh and another important thing i noticed:
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Noji's butt is perfect! Everything is forgiven!
Oh yes, I was just thinking the other day (just two days ago, to be exact) how many similarities there actually are between Summer's Gone and Twin Peaks while listening Twin Peaks soundtrack music (the official release and other musical pieces featured in the series) - one of my all time favorite TV series.
I mean:
- Both have an unsolved mystery going on that we get occasional glimpses about, mostly as flashbacks. (And I would also prefer it to remain a mystery to the end or at least as long as possible)
- About a half or more of the cast are students with their daily shenanigans.
- Likely something truly sinister going on behind the curtains, at least in the past, if not the present.
- The whole beautiful dreamy misty environment - the city and forest AND a lake. Gorgeous views of it as a back drop for the scenes.
- AND last but not least, the beautiful soundtrack that matches it and keeps haunting you long after you stopped playing / watching it.
I wonder, who's the log lady equivalent is or is going to be?
Then we will never know who killed Summer or why she disappeared.Oh yes, I was just thinking the other day (just two days ago, to be exact) how many similarities there actually are between Summer's Gone and Twin Peaks while listening Twin Peaks soundtrack music (the official release and other musical pieces featured in the series) - one of my all time favorite TV series.
I mean:
- Both have an unsolved mystery going on that we get occasional glimpses about, mostly as flashbacks. (And I would also prefer it to remain a mystery to the end or at least as long as possible)
- About a half or more of the cast are students with their daily shenanigans.
- Likely something truly sinister going on behind the curtains, at least in the past, if not the present.
- The whole beautiful dreamy misty environment - the city and forest AND a lake. Gorgeous views of it as a back drop for the scenes.
- AND last but not least, the beautiful soundtrack that matches it and keeps haunting you long after you stopped playing / watching it.
I wonder, who's the log lady equivalent is or is going to be?
No shot Summer is dead. She just left town. You know she has to come back at some point so that can be the peak emotional height of the story because what the fuck else is there? MC finding out who Mommy and Daddy are?Then we will never know who killed Summer or why she disappeared.
So Nojiko was a sex worker on her young days ? I don't find impossible Nojiko being friend with a pornstar with out having being a sex worker. I don't know, it could be is not just where my mind goes when I think about it. If I was to bet Nojiko has ties with Miru. I think Emillia and Emillie being the same person make perfect sense but I was under the impression Ocean had stated that it was not the case or was about Emillie still being in the WiaB with fat Dana being a thing now ? Don't remember. Yeah the bookclub is a really odd mix of different people, with different backgrounds and money, hard to imagine all those people as a single group, they being long friends makes sense, if it is so we will see them on WiaB. My bet is that at least one of them worked for Leia.
I think those events are gonna answer some of the questions we have, especially the Gala of the Holgerson - as do the Elena clu. We can know if Katie and Zoey are still a thing, how much they are involved with the Zanes, know more about the upper class of Wollust - that Nika has became a part of- Vanessa with Mario. I like the idea of Nika being a fish out of water, but I don't think it will remais like that for much longer, he will need to learn how navigate those waters.Haha for me it would feel more like the shows "Lost" or "The blacklist", endless mystery without (or with utterly shit) reward in the end. I really really REALLY hate stuff like that
Yeah i could imagine something like the zane's rushing the antagonists mansion in the end, killing everyone inside and the end is William seeing a 3 year old Nika and Nami sitting next to the bed where he just killed their parents.
The Frohn's got casually killed like some goons by willy somewhere inbetween
Just like, you know, written by someone who can write and is more creative than me
I thought that was kinda obvious wasnt it? These arent random people who joined a bookclub and did meet each other there. The bookclub seems to be a creation of the zpr + their kids and "friends" conglomerate and i think its exactly like you mentioned that there are multiple locations like that.
I still (delusionaly) hope for a scene at the holgerson gala where Stefan Holgerson insults Nika and intends to throw him out just to be put in his place by Leia in front of everyone who's protecting/supporting Nika out of nowhere and everyone watching so confused whats happening (bella's tits lactating just by watching out of curiosity as nika would call it)
Oh and another important thing i noticed:
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Noji's butt is perfect! Everything is forgiven!
Yeah, buddy you can wait, cause gonna take a while for that.
I really get you, I am still hold hoping that the story will grow beyond teen drama. I see potential to a good story, even if not the one who was original conceived, even that is hard to say cause so far it has like 5 different version. It has meat, there are very interesting places it could go, but if like Summer get back for drama sake I will drop it. So far, in terms of plot at least, I am much more invested in WiaB.No shot Summer is dead. She just left town. You know she has to come back at some point so that can be the peak emotional height of the story because what the fuck else is there? MC finding out who Mommy and Daddy are?
SG isn't the game it once was. The stakes are way, way, wayyyy lower now. This is teen drama territory. This is The OC, Dawson's Creek, Vampire Diaries, Gossip Girl etc beat by beat.
I wish to everything that is holy that Summer is dead. I really, really do. But there's just no way...
Im fine with that! I dont want to see it (lewds) but Nojiko deserves a realistic partner for her and to be happy!
I never call any of my clients by their last name, and Noji would have given her full name when she booked the appointment (if we suppose she was a stranger). I also can't remember the last time a professional called me anything other than my first name, other than a receptionist. Maybe highschool? University, businesses, doctors, all the years I've been an adult, everythings been first name for more than 2 decades.Yeah, hey guys its me again
Another thing i noticed is how heavily Ocean changed the scene of Amber and Nojiko's first meeting. Its entirely different now in terms how Nojiko behaves. She doesnt exactly hide that she knows/heard good things about Amber.
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Afterwards what stands out most that Nojiko doesnt confuse Miss Marla with Amber anymore, that part just doesnt exist anymore. Nika just introduces Miss Marla.
Nojiko and Amber greet each other with their surnames in front of Miss Marla but as soon as they are alone with Nika it switches immediatly to:
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first name basis. And they didnt told each other their first names anymore (which was the case before the changes).
So yeah, all scenes where Nojiko "pretended" to not know Amber dont exist anymore.
Amber still gets confused afterwards somehow, for whatever reason tho
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Noji is keeping secrets, indeed. But I think you are looking in the wrong direction. She mentioned Scarlett once, she worked with her at the hospital until Scarlett retired.
are related events.-Dev adds some mystery to a scene
Sasha's Scary twin who decided that Sasha needed a bigger smile before she was restrained.
