VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[LHDLLB]

Well, it really depends on how Emilia is introduced and if Noji is introduced in WiaB. What if Noji was a student trying to pay her way through med school and got employment at Leia's club? She then shuts off that part of her life, but keeps the wild friend who goes and maybe becomes a pornstar in WIlli and Zoeys porn studio idea (if that happens). If it's Emilie, the chance is certainly there, slight change of story... she certainly seems antagonistic to the Zanes, maybe she felt used and dumped by them?

Even if we were discussing something else, Emilia shows that the bookclub is not one cohesive conspiracy, she's almost a cat among the pigeons as much as Nika is.



When I think Summer can be an endless mystery, I'm kinda thinking of things like Twin Peaks, or Jeff Vandermeer's writings. There's something compelling about always being on the verge of understanding what is happening, but never getting the full picture. BUt that's just my preference. The length of development has made it hard for Ocean to have a simple explanation though, we have to be "wow! outrageous! such applause!" for it to be a satisfying explanation. If Emilio just gives Nika an email address after 10 minutes search, that would punk us cruelly. I personally prefer her remaining a memory haunting Nika, but I don't get to chose.

The kids of the WiaB antagonist thing I think would be a really interesting angle, kinda what I was thinking about maybe the Zane's are looking after them out of guilt. What would NIka's reaction be if he found out that the Zane's were responsible for every car crash in Wollust??? Failed brakes you say officer? How strange... Dylan's a mechanic right?

I kinda wonder how they all meet for the bookclub, they're quite a diverse range of people, but it's a ridiculously over the top mansion. So I wonder if the core of the club new each other prior, and this is just their way to hang out with friends (and drink too much wine)? I don't think there's special significance in the actual bookclub, it's just there's a lot of interesting people with interesting connections. We'll see the same at the golf/tennis club, at Ayua's studio, the gala, there will be Nika feeling like an outsider while everyone throws meaningful stars and whisper about him. Probably.

You forgot Kelly at very least ...and more importantly, Alyson:

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So Nojiko was a sex worker on her young days ? I don't find impossible Nojiko being friend with a pornstar with out having being a sex worker. I don't know, it could be is not just where my mind goes when I think about it. If I was to bet Nojiko has ties with Miru. I think Emillia and Emillie being the same person make perfect sense but I was under the impression Ocean had stated that it was not the case or was about Emillie still being in the WiaB with fat Dana being a thing now ? Don't remember. Yeah the bookclub is a really odd mix of different people, with different backgrounds and money, hard to imagine all those people as a single group, they being long friends makes sense, if it is so we will see them on WiaB. My bet is that at least one of them worked for Leia.

Haha for me it would feel more like the shows "Lost" or "The blacklist", endless mystery without (or with utterly shit) reward in the end. I really really REALLY hate stuff like that



Yeah i could imagine something like the zane's rushing the antagonists mansion in the end, killing everyone inside and the end is William seeing a 3 year old Nika and Nami sitting next to the bed where he just killed their parents.

The Frohn's got casually killed like some goons by willy somewhere inbetween

Just like, you know, written by someone who can write and is more creative than me and im not sure if it would be this cool myself, just trying to come up with more original solutions lol



I thought that was kinda obvious wasnt it? These arent random people who joined a bookclub and did meet each other there. The bookclub seems to be a creation of the zpr + their kids and "friends" conglomerate and i think its exactly like you mentioned that there are multiple locations like that.

I still (delusionaly) hope for a scene at the holgerson gala where Stefan Holgerson insults Nika and intends to throw him out just to be put in his place by Leia in front of everyone who's protecting/supporting Nika out of nowhere and everyone watching so confused whats happening (bella's tits lactating just by watching out of curiosity as nika would call it)


Oh and another important thing i noticed:

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Noji's butt is perfect! Everything is forgiven!

I think those events are gonna answer some of the questions we have, especially the Gala of the Holgerson - as do the Elena clu. We can know if Katie and Zoey are still a thing, how much they are involved with the Zanes, know more about the upper class of Wollust - that Nika has became a part of- Vanessa with Mario. I like the idea of Nika being a fish out of water, but I don't think it will remais like that for much longer, he will need to learn how navigate those waters.

A perfect butt indeed. And only Nick will enjoy it.

holy shit what a game! I did not expect that! Thank you! Can not wait for season 2

Yeah, buddy you can wait, cause gonna take a while for that.

No shot Summer is dead. She just left town. You know she has to come back at some point so that can be the peak emotional height of the story because what the fuck else is there? MC finding out who Mommy and Daddy are?

SG isn't the game it once was. The stakes are way, way, wayyyy lower now. This is teen drama territory. This is The OC, Dawson's Creek, Vampire Diaries, Gossip Girl etc beat by beat.

I wish to everything that is holy that Summer is dead. I really, really do. But there's just no way...

I really get you, I am still hold hoping that the story will grow beyond teen drama. I see potential to a good story, even if not the one who was original conceived, even that is hard to say cause so far it has like 5 different version. It has meat, there are very interesting places it could go, but if like Summer get back for drama sake I will drop it. So far, in terms of plot at least, I am much more invested in WiaB.

 

[Krytax123]

A perfect butt indeed. And only Nick will enjoy it.

Im fine with that! I dont want to see it (lewds) but Nojiko deserves a realistic partner for her and to be happy!

And i really like that we for once apparently have a understanding, cool and friendly "stepdad" in a avn, and god knows that Nika needs a bit of male parental guidance. I liked how Nick talked to Nika when they had to leave their house, he wasnt forcing any stepdaddy bullshit on him but simply offered an ear to listen and understanding.

Him being Zara & Vanessa's dad (hopefully) is fun too. It was a nice surprise for me to see Zara there when i played it for the first time.

I think its good for storys when not every male is an asshole/dumb/pervert/antagonist. Characters like jeffrey, trey, dwight, Nick and so on can enhance a story without being LI rivals or enemys. Its just refreshing and makes the experience feel immediatly more realistic.

Its not really an achievement anyway to get the girl when youre the only (barely) acceptable guy in existance

Im so bored from the usual avn approach that 99% of the guys are morons (or dont exist).

 

[Krytax123]

Yeah, hey guys its me again

Another thing i noticed is how heavily Ocean changed the scene of Amber and Nojiko's first meeting. Its entirely different now in terms how Nojiko behaves. She doesnt exactly hide that she knows/heard good things about Amber.



Afterwards what stands out most that Nojiko doesnt confuse Miss Marla with Amber anymore, that part just doesnt exist anymore. Nika just introduces Miss Marla.

Nojiko and Amber greet each other with their surnames in front of Miss Marla but as soon as they are alone with Nika it switches immediatly to:



first name basis. And they didnt told each other their first names anymore (which was the case before the changes).

So yeah, all scenes where Nojiko "pretended" to not know Amber dont exist anymore.

Amber still gets confused afterwards somehow, for whatever reason tho

 

[BobTheDuck]

Yeah, hey guys its me again

Another thing i noticed is how heavily Ocean changed the scene of Amber and Nojiko's first meeting. Its entirely different now in terms how Nojiko behaves. She doesnt exactly hide that she knows/heard good things about Amber.

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Afterwards what stands out most that Nojiko doesnt confuse Miss Marla with Amber anymore, that part just doesnt exist anymore. Nika just introduces Miss Marla.

Nojiko and Amber greet each other with their surnames in front of Miss Marla but as soon as they are alone with Nika it switches immediatly to:

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first name basis. And they didnt told each other their first names anymore (which was the case before the changes).

So yeah, all scenes where Nojiko "pretended" to not know Amber dont exist anymore.

Amber still gets confused afterwards somehow, for whatever reason tho

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I never call any of my clients by their last name, and Noji would have given her full name when she booked the appointment (if we suppose she was a stranger). I also can't remember the last time a professional called me anything other than my first name, other than a receptionist. Maybe highschool? University, businesses, doctors, all the years I've been an adult, everythings been first name for more than 2 decades.

- Amber knows Noji's first and last name from when Noji made the booking, so it means little.
- Noji might refer to Amber by her job description so Nika takes therapy seriously, that's not unusual, more an appeal to the authority of her expertise.
- Nika was the first person to use Amber's first name in the scene
- Stephanie being introduced by her last name makes sense: most teachers prefer using their titles to their students to remind of the heirachy. Nika calling her by her last name might also be that he does know or can't remember her first name, or that he's showing deference to keep on the faculty's good side.
- Amber using last names while two clients are present is a failed attempt to preserve a sense of privacy - I'm sure Stephanie would prefer that her students DON'T know she's getting therapy, even if the second Nika sees her it's too late. Amber would not assume people in passing would want to chit chat in her reception area. Also, Nika set the precedent, which they continued until Stephanie was gone.
- Stephanie uses Noji's last name, most likely as an attempt to put faces to names - Nika introduces her as Noji, while to Stephanie, she's only seen Noji's name on forms.
- Amber uses Noji's full first name, she doesn't get too familiar.
- Amber get's flustered by Bella's appearance, and can't decide if it's okay to use Noji's first name in front of her daughter, as now there's a juxtaposition between professional and personal areas of Amber's life.
- Even with the bookclub, we don't know how well Amber and Noji know each other, only that they do.

Given how Amber tried to pretend she hasn't met Nika before as a professional courtesy, we can assume that Amber doesn't consider it improper to greet people by their first names. But that scene is odd for a different reason - Amber knew Nika as Bella's project partner already, so there is no reason to hide that she knows him, especially as the bookclub probably knows gossip about Nika and Bella.

 

[yossa999]

She most likely wasn't, however, considering she's been keeping secrets I wouldn't completely rule that out. Imagine if during that scene where Nami tells Nika they're gonna watch a porno, they saw Nojiko on screen instead of that woman.

Noji is keeping secrets, indeed. But I think you are looking in the wrong direction. She mentioned Scarlett once, she worked with her at the hospital until Scarlett retired.

Scarlett is one of the Zanes, Helen's roommate
In the old WiAB, when Willy (the main character of WiAB) was hospitalized, Scarlett treated him.

So, I think this is the main connection between Noji and WiAB - through Scarlett. By the way, it is quite possible that working in the hospital with Scarlett, the death of Nami and Nika's parents, and her becoming their landlady are related events.

 

[Pl@y3r]

So yeah, all scenes where Nojiko "pretended" to not know Amber dont exist anymore.

-Dev adds some mystery to a scene
-Dev realizes things will need to be explained
-Dev reworks the scene, removing the mystery
-Profit

 

[c.mork]

From Discord

Yo,
I usually don't do holiday renders because just as with treats, I need the inspiration. Would you look at that... I had said inspiration and I will release 5 Halloween & Horror themed sets soon.

I will preview another one tomorrow

3 SG sets
2 WiAB sets

 

[BobTheDuck]

From Discord

Yo,
I usually don't do holiday renders because just as with treats, I need the inspiration. Would you look at that... I had said inspiration and I will release 5 Halloween & Horror themed sets soon.

I will preview another one tomorrow
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3 SG sets
2 WiAB sets

I am ded. Died. Things.

 

[MutexxWith3X]

I actually have to say, this is the best vn i have ever played. Sure there are many things you could upgrade and fix, but the dialogues the chemistry between the characters, the story, the pictures are so perfect. This visual novel is a masterpiece and should be even more in focus. Massive respect for making this, its even philosophical and just absolutely pretty. Thanks a lot and please continue to work on it! <3

 

[PaxHadrian17]

From Discord

Yo,
I usually don't do holiday renders because just as with treats, I need the inspiration. Would you look at that... I had said inspiration and I will release 5 Halloween & Horror themed sets soon.

I will preview another one tomorrow
View attachment 4180106
3 SG sets
2 WiAB sets

Sasha's Scary twin who decided that Sasha needed a bigger smile before she was restrained.

Sasha still has panic attacks from this 'dress up' session... when her twin decided that this was more than just a costume...

Cheers!!

 

[mommysboiii]

Where is bella???? Update when??moee bella content??

Open relationship with bella any consequences??

 

[D3xzalias]

Where is bella???? Update when??moee bella content??

Open relationship with bella any consequences??

Every relationship you have has consequences with the other ladies

 

[Pl@y3r]

Some of the latest posts would suit in a "respect's gone" thread not here.

 

[mommysboiii]

Every relationship you have has consequences with the other ladies

Yeah but if I remember right you can have a open or closed relationship with bella like??

Does this mean bella can do things too/ jeliousy/drama or does this mean harem for mc but no benefits for bella so like male only fantasy??and bella gets the short stick which is not really a open relationship unless you watch too much redpill prodcast

 

[LHDLLB]

Yeah but if I remember right you can have a open or closed relationship with bella like??

Does this mean bella can do things too/ jeliousy/drama or does this mean harem for mc but no benefits for bella so like male only fantasy??and bella gets the short stick which is not really a open relationship unless you watch too much redpill prodcast

Short answer nobody knows, beyond Ocean of course. So far no male character had show interest in Bella or her in another male, quite the opposite actually and SG will not features NTR. I don't expect Bella to go chasing dick. Is not even a open relationship in my book, they are just fooling around.

As far as consequence goes, I don't see a reason why should have any. I don't think Bella will be happy if you start chasing every skirt in town, but she can hardly be upset as it was her suggestion. I think it may force her to seek a defination to their relationship early on if you demostrate interest in another girl, Kate maybe. That said Ocean said that there is a MMF throuple so who knows ?

 

[humpgorilla]

Can you date multiple girls at once without consequences on this game? Or there will be a point where you need to choose only one?

 

[BobTheDuck]

Can you date multiple girls at once without consequences on this game? Or there will be a point where you need to choose only one?

Ocean has plans for some throuples. There is no harem. If you chase the skirts, the LI are likely to abandon you. The trouples (when and if they happen) are planned to b hard to keep going, jealousy and neglect will have negative consequences if you don't spend the right times with each. THere is also a planned MMF throuple, I don't know how that works either.

You can be interested in multiple LI, but they notice. Nami gets angsty when you show affection to other LI if you're on her path, but she doesn't otherwise. If you've kissed Bella, Mila gets more proactive.

It's hard to know until we see some of the next season, where the paths will start seriously. Currently everyone is testing the waters so to speak.

 

[LHDLLB]

Can you date multiple girls at once without consequences on this game? Or there will be a point where you need to choose only one?

You can be in multiple paths so far but at one point will have to choose one, at least this is my take on it, I don't know how Ocean will implement it. Like BaD where once the story reaches a point you have to make a choice of if is how the relationships evolves will be locked in a path and closed to others, is to early to say, but it has no harem.

 

[mommysboiii]

Short answer nobody knows, beyond Ocean of course. So far no male character had show interest in Bella or her in another male, quite the opposite actually and SG will not features NTR. I don't expect Bella to go chasing dick. Is not even a open relationship in my book, they are just fooling around.

As far as consequence goes, I don't see a reason why should have any. I don't think Bella will be happy if you start chasing every skirt in town, but she can hardly be upset as it was her suggestion. I think it may force her to seek a defination to their relationship early on if you demostrate interest in another girl, Kate maybe. That said Ocean said that there is a MMF throuple so who knows ?

Again I am talking sbout the open relationship option NOT NTR which we already know wont be in game (at least in SG)

If your mc AGREES to a open relationship thats a bit different like cant really complain at that point ....

 

[mommysboiii]

Is not even a open relationship in my book, they are just fooling around.

Which would mean mc cant complain??? Maybe just a bit jeliousy if you dont pseudo a girl ocean did not say that they will get in relationships which others like friends sister of mc he considers NOT NTR or not?

That said Ocean said that there is a MMF throuple so who knows ?

Which would mean pure male fanatasy bella gets short stick????