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theduke9999

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the problem is not in PC, but in the fact that Ocean started to get lazy and milk his fans.
i wouldnt say he milks his fans cause they throw money at him . which is everyones choice. and yes i would love faster updates also he is working on 2 of the best VN's and every update is normally huge.. lots of play time. but yes it does get fustrating because they are both so good lol
 

AlexFXR

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i wouldnt say he milks his fans cause they throw money at him . which is everyones choice. and yes i would love faster updates also he is working on 2 of the best VN's and every update is normally huge.. lots of play time. but yes it does get fustrating because they are both so good lol
Here you are wrong. The fans give money for the development of SG, and not because Ocean has a beautiful smile and honest eyes. If you were right, the fans would be happy now, and would not curse Ocean and call him a liar. If you did not understand, then we are not talking about fans like you and me who get games for free, but about those who pay money. You can check on Patreon, people have started leaving Ocean again.
 

RNasc4444

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i wouldnt say he milks his fans cause they throw money at him . which is everyones choice
Imagine if he actually added some sex scenes. He could be getting 3x the money easy. Braindead people are easily parted with their money. Just yesterday on the other game's thread there was a dude who apparently played through all of SG and didn't even notice Katie makes an appearance. You have to be playing with what little brain you have completely turned off, no? Now multiply him by the thousands. You wouldn't give a child a Dostoiévski novel, but if you give them a picture book they will have the time of their life :ROFLMAO:

also he is working on 2 of the best VN's and every update is normally huge.. lots of play time. but yes it does get fustrating because they are both so good lol
 

alanrock

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Here you are wrong. The fans give money for the development of SG, and not because Ocean has a beautiful smile and honest eyes. If you were right, the fans would be happy now, and would not curse Ocean and call him a liar. If you did not understand, then we are not talking about fans like you and me who get games for free, but about those who pay money. You can check on Patreon, people have started leaving Ocean again.
Which people are leaving his Patreon, and why do you always lie ?!... lol.
 

AlexFXR

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If this is called milking, what exactly are other AVN devs doing?
We need to come up with new terminology.
Of course there are scammers on Patreon who milk their fans. But Ocean doesn't consider himself a scammer, he wants to be one of the best developers of games like DPC. And he would have achieved this without any problems if he hadn't broken the rules that can't be broken.

Why change the terminology? Other developers also promise to release a game by the end of the year, but instead do nothing and take fans' money? This fits the term "Milking", nothing to change.
 

alanrock

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Of course there are scammers on Patreon who milk their fans. But Ocean doesn't consider himself a scammer, he wants to be one of the best developers of games like DPC. And he would have achieved this without any problems if he hadn't broken the rules that can't be broken.

Why change the terminology? Other developers also promise to release a game by the end of the year, but instead do nothing and take fans' money? This fits the term "Milking", nothing to change.
DPC earns millions while doing the same amount or even less work than Ocean. You must be one of his devoted fans...lol

Others earn ten times more than Ocean by releasing 300 render updates every three years, and yet you’ve chosen this thread as your regular spot for trolling.
 

yossa999

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Imagine if he actually added some sex scenes. He could be getting 3x the money easy. Braindead people are easily parted with their money. Just yesterday on the other game's thread there was a dude who apparently played through all of SG and didn't even notice Katie makes an appearance. You have to be playing with what little brain you have completely turned off, no? Now multiply him by the thousands. You wouldn't give a child a Dostoiévski novel, but if you give them a picture book they will have the time of their life :ROFLMAO:


At first you crack jokes when I say that the Ocean's games probably have the best writing that AVN genre has to offer. However, when I say this, I don't mean the greatness of his genius :Kappa:, but rather the poverty of the entire AVN genre in terms of plots and scenarios. (Although it's unfair to demand anything more from a mutant scion borned from incest of comics, sitcoms and adventure computer games from the 90s)

And now you compare it to Dostoevsky. Fuck, that's too much even for me. :KEK:
 

alanrock

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Here are Ocean's stats for the last month. So who's the liar now?:KEK:
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At the release of Season 1, he had around 1500 Patrons, and now he has about 1300, which is still quite good.
Stop talking nonsense and pray for more Bella scenes in Season 2, you ungrateful pirate.
 

AlexFXR

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DPC earns millions while doing the same amount or even less work than Ocean. You must be one of his devoted fans...lol
Others earn ten times more than Ocean by releasing 300 render updates every three years
If Ocean hadn't deceived his fans and cheated them out of money, he would have become a millionaire too.
and yet you’ve chosen this thread as your regular spot for trolling.
You don't care about the theft and the fraud and the people who get cheated, but for some reason you care about it being told when you're trying to hide it. Why are you trying to justify Ocean's bad behavior?
 
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alanrock

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If Ocean hadn't deceived his fans and cheated them out of money, he would have become a millionaire too.
Most of these devs are lucky to have around 500 donors.
Ocean's success is imminent. You gotta learn to live with that.
You don't care about the theft and the fraud and the people who get cheated, but for some reason you care about it being told when you're trying to hide it. Why are you trying to justify Ocean's bad behavior?
The only bad thing here is your trolling skills.
Try harder, Inmate.
 

AlexFXR

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Most of these devs are lucky to have around 500 donors.
Ocean's success is imminent. You gotta learn to live with that.
Smart developers don't count on luck with donors, because they know that their trust must be earned.
Success is inevitable if Ocean works and stops lying and cheating. But if nothing changes, the game will exist for 3 years at best.

The only bad thing here is your trolling skills.
Try harder, Inmate.
You do know that trolling is based on lies? And Ocean's theft and deception is a fact that anyone can verify, which means I can't be a troll by definition. Are you trying so hard to cover for Ocean that it seems like he's paying you to do it, or you just like kissing his ass? :KEK:
 
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RNasc4444

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At first you crack jokes when I say that the Ocean's games probably have the best writing that AVN genre has to offer. However, when I say this, I don't mean the greatness of his genius :Kappa:, but rather the poverty of the entire AVN genre in terms of plots and scenarios. (Although it's unfair to demand anything more from a mutant scion borned from incest of comics, sitcoms and adventure computer games from the 90s)

And now you compare it to Dostoevsky. Fuck, that's too much even for me. :KEK:
I was just illustrating my point. (pun absolutely intended! :LOL: )

My comment was more a critique of the majority of the people who play these AVN's than the quality of Ocean's games. Which btw I agree with you it's way above that of the average AVN.

It actually fucking triggered me, reading that comment on the other thread. It also sadly dawned on me why the reviews are so high for both SG and WiAB. Most players don't care that much about plot or story or even the emotional depth of an AVN. They just like pretty renders and spicy scenes. "FuCK stOrYtELliNG OR commOn seNse, can I HAs mY NaKED ladIeS plEASE?"

It's actually sad...

I mean seriously how in the ever loving fuck do you miss the introduction of Katie!?!?!?! She's just the character that connects both games and binds the universes together!?!?!? How afk must your brain be? Do you even read any text at all?
 

alanrock

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Smart developers don't count on luck with donors, because they know that their trust must be earned.
Success is inevitable if Ocean works and stops lying and cheating. But if nothing changes, the game will exist for 3 years at best.


You do know that trolling is based on lies? And Ocean's theft and deception is a fact that anyone can verify, which means I can't be a troll by definition. Are you trying so hard to cover for Ocean that it seems like he's paying you to do it, or you just like kissing his ass? :KEK:
You cry too much. Have some dignity, Inmate.
 
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Monetka_

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The SG Dev Log will be released in a few hours, together with the first full set.

The Bella set (Seraphic Decay) will be the first one to be released. I'm currently replacing two of the renders as they aren't up to my standard.

Every set has around 8 - 11 renders. Half of them are in a fantasy world like you see on the cover.

The other half plays in the "real world" and shows what it might look like if you two left the party together and you're now at your/her place.

The plan was to release them all on Halloween, but I started too late, 3 days ago to be exact. Creating ~50 Wallpaper-level renders along with my daily render quota for the game might not have been the smartest move, but it was fun.

I also woke up an hour ago. My sleep schedule is now where it belongs... IN THE BIN!

Worth it. I came up with some cool sets.

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