VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Krytax123]

...and...

...but also...

So which is it?


You probably saw that preview from S2E1. I know what you're thinking.


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This confused me too lol

I really really hope and think there will never be any lewds with Nojiko. I like that there is a parental figure for once who doesnt want to fuck the people she raises, it makes her a normal and good person.

I always immediately lose any respect towards any parental figures who are interested in that kind of stuff and like Nojiko a lot.

Let her and Nick get happy together and let her have a normal, loving and supporting relationship with Nika ffs

But i wouldnt mind Ayua and her sisters

 

[Mr_Mister]

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Now i know why you like so much Ocean writings .........

 

[Mr_Mister]

Sure, and those small changes are what give it a more cinematic feel than most AVNs. That's actually a feature for me, that Ocean doesn't reuse renders; if a dialogue cuts back and forward between two renders, the conversation tends to feel stilted. I like the fact Ocean will render close ups of eyes or lips, the pupils dilating, the change of expression. It helps give a sense of the body language, whether a person really means what they're saying, if the situation makes them feel uncomfortable or if they have some sort of ulterior motive.

i'd agreed with you on that ! but it's a shame that all those renders are not followed by good writing , specially after all those re-writings Ocean did.
Maybe for christmas we should give Ocean the the best gift he could ever ask ,"writing for dummies" tomes 1 to 10.

 

[NIAmyEMOgirl]

I have this thought that Nika might be a Zane. It might be William's son and her mother is Riri since nojiko is Asian and prolly her best friend.

 

[BobTheDuck]

i'd agreed with you on that ! but it's a shame that all those renders are not followed by good writing , specially after all those re-writings Ocean did.
Maybe for christmas we should give Ocean the the best gift he could ever ask ,"writing for dummies" tomes 1 to 10.

Well, there's room for improvement, but he still outdoes some native english speaking devs who avoid anything other than monosyllables. Steven KIng is an unfair comparison I'll put it like this, most AVN's I read the dev's cringe internal dialogue, pushed forward by sock puppets. In SG I really have the illusion that the words are NIka's cringe thoughts or Nami's cringe thoughts (the exception in Sasha's dialogue on the basketball court while stretching, those are Ocean's cringe). So in that sense, Ocean's writing is better at making his sock puppets into personalities than the average (and yes, I know there are also writers who are better again).

THe think that I find crazy, is when Ocean wrote on this board ages ago, his english was pretty fluid, much clearer that what was in the game. I wonder if some of the issues are the people he trusts to proof (I remember delays from one proof reader not getting the script corrections back to Ocean etc).

 

[Mr_Mister]

I have this thought that Nika might be a Zane. It might be William's son and her mother is Riri since nojiko is Asian and prolly her best friend.
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Riri is Nojiko ! .

 

[BobTheDuck]

Riri is Nojiko ! .

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If Ocean did that is would be very dramatic, but also very bad design:


In a more serious note, I think Riri is meant to be a trap for William set by Leia in WiaB. I'm just going to wait for more obvious clues in an actual update before guessing whether Riri is the mastermind that sent Miru to guide William all those years ago so she could confuse us about her current non presence in SG. Or something.

 

[LHDLLB]

I have this thought that Nika might be a Zane. It might be William's son and her mother is Riri since nojiko is Asian and prolly her best friend.
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But Nika is not asian, he like the most white dude possible with out being your stereotypical Nazi villain, that is Dwight. But I do think that Riri is not just a background character, or maybe Ocean was playing Rebirth and wanted to make a Tifa to William fuck. Thinking about it the two things are not mutually exclusive.

Well, there's room for improvement, but he still outdoes some native english speaking devs who avoid anything other than monosyllables. Steven KIng is an unfair comparison I'll put it like this, most AVN's I read the dev's cringe internal dialogue, pushed forward by sock puppets. In SG I really have the illusion that the words are NIka's cringe thoughts or Nami's cringe thoughts (the exception in Sasha's dialogue on the basketball court while stretching, those are Ocean's cringe). So in that sense, Ocean's writing is better at making his sock puppets into personalities than the average (and yes, I know there are also writers who are better again).

THe think that I find crazy, is when Ocean wrote on this board ages ago, his english was pretty fluid, much clearer that what was in the game. I wonder if some of the issues are the people he trusts to proof (I remember delays from one proof reader not getting the script corrections back to Ocean etc).

I forgive a lot of Nika's cringe thoughts because he is young but that Sasha scene was a bit tough. Still, even when it is cringe I can see the intent more than the execution. Writting is not easy and Ocean improved a lot.

 

[NIAmyEMOgirl]

But Nika is not asian, he like the most white dude possible with out being your stereotypical Nazi villain, that is Dwight. But I do think that Riri is not just a background character, or maybe Ocean was playing Rebirth and wanted to make a Tifa to William fuck. Thinking about it the two things are not mutually exclusive.



I forgive a lot of Nika's cringe thoughts because he is young but that Sasha scene was a bit tough. Still, even when it is cringe I can see the intent more than the execution. Writting is not easy and Ocean improved a lot.

alot of fans in reddit telling it is william and leia's son too . damn, i just love to spoil myself. there's still a question to myself if nojiko ever told them about their parents identity.

 

[Ilhares]

alot of fans in reddit telling it is william and leia's son too

That might certainly explain Katie's interest.

 

[NIAmyEMOgirl]

That might certainly explain Katie's interest.

you are right , and i do think sasha know something also .

 

[NIAmyEMOgirl]

That might certainly explain Katie's interest.

or maybe he's part of revera too? since revera wasn't fully introduce yet.

 

[Mr_Mister]

If Ocean did that is would be very dramatic, but also very bad design:
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In a more serious note, I think Riri is meant to be a trap for William set by Leia in WiaB. I'm just going to wait for more obvious clues in an actual update before guessing whether Riri is the mastermind that sent Miru to guide William all those years ago so she could confuse us about her current non presence in SG. Or something.

talking about bad design and bad writing "Did You Forgot Season 1" Already?.

Dude! , you're doing some serious mental gymnastics trying to make sense out of "freddy got Fingered" , yes ! ; Ocean writing can only be compared to that movie



Even the character of "Vic" was inspired by that movie and by how Vic story is progressing , i wouldn't be surprise if she says to the Mc "that she doesn't care about jewels"

 

[Mr_Mister]

here you go Ducky !

You must be registered to see the links

this will become your favorite Vic line on summer's gone !

 

[BobTheDuck]

or maybe he's part of revera too? since revera wasn't fully introduce yet.

Ocean's specifically made this question unknown, so every guess is just that. At some point, we'll know, probably at the time Nika finds out.

Keep in mind that the old WiaB is no longer canon, and we don't know what revelations there are for William and Leia. Anything could happen. Nika does remember the sound of his mother's voice though, and Noji was only looking after them from the ages of 3 and 4 (Nami is older). Nika also supposedly remembers someone he thinks is his uncle. We haven't seen all the characters that Ocean has planned for WiaB, Nika and Nami could be children of the Zane's enemies, there could be all kinds of things yet to find out. There could even be a couple that William meets called Cyrus. Most likely, Ocean will keep the secret until near the end as long as he can stretch it out, because people love secrets.

But Ocean is also not foolish enough to risk any scent of incest near his earning game (SG) after WiaB's patreon got shut. Doesn't matter what people on the internet say or think, Ocean's not going to risk his income.

talking about bad design and bad writing "Did You Forgot Season 1" Already?.

Dude! , you're doing some serious mental gymnastics trying to make sense out of "freddy got Fingered" , yes ! ; Ocean writing can only be compared to that movie

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Even the character of "Vic" was inspired by that movie and by how Vic story is progressing , i wouldn't be surprise if she says to the Mc "that she doesn't care about jewels"
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You forget that I enjoyed Season 1 despite the issues. The mental gymnastics are a way to help me stay awake between updates, you know that

here you go Ducky !

You must be registered to see the links

this will become your favorite Vic line on summer's gone !

I'm pretty sure I remember Ocean saying Vic'd be the first to sample protein. Could have remembered wrong, but I think you're on the money!

 

[Maviarab]

alot of fans in reddit telling it is william and leia's son too . damn, i just love to spoil myself. there's still a question to myself if nojiko ever told them about their parents identity.

Which means what? It's Reddit...an echo chamber....half of them would agree with whatever was said no matter how ridiculous.

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

Just an fyi...i d like to embrance Mila`s Boobies to the fullest....! Ocean, make it so.



easy peasy....

Who s with me btw??

 

[NIAmyEMOgirl]

Which means what? It's Reddit...an echo chamber....half of them would agree with whatever was said no matter how ridiculous.

some people enjoy talking theories bro. it's like connecting the dot or doing puzzle. i never said it's real

 

[Pl@y3r]

I have this thought that Nika might be a Zane. It might be William's son and her mother is Riri since nojiko is Asian and prolly her best friend.
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Emilia is Nojiko's best friend.

there's still a question to myself if nojiko ever told them about their parents identity.

For some reason she hides from them whatever she knows.

you are right , and i do think sasha know something also .

While playing, I was thinking that Sasha and her friend actually know Nika but for some reason he doesn't remember them? What if he caused Sasha's scar, ended up in a hospital during the altercation (that flashback) and lost some memories in the process? Or maybe someone important (from WIAB?) asked Sasha and her friend to look after him 'cause I don't believe it's a coincidence how they are around him sometimes and also Sasha having those pills on her that Nika needs.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Emilia is Nojiko's best friend.


For some reason she hides from them whatever she knows.


While playing, I was thinking that Sasha and her friend actually know Nika but for some reason he doesn't remember them? What if he caused Sasha's scar, ended up in a hospital during the altercation (that flashback) and lost some memories in the process? Or maybe someone important (from WIAB?) asked Sasha and her friend to look after him 'cause I don't believe it's a coincidence how they are around him sometimes and also Sasha having those pills on her that Nika needs.

Only problem thing with Sasha being Nika's guardian angel and knowing everything, is that she recognises Nami's earring, and as a Petrova, she knows whose earrings they were originally (as she has one) ...but she has no knowledge of Nami having a connection and it puzzles her. I'd find it hard to believe she knows Nika's medical history, but doesn't know about Nami's earring (most likely, she carries them for Robin or herself - the time she calms Robin down in the locker room suggests they're not all that stable). The thing about knowing Nika from before, well there's plenty of indications - the way Nika almost recognises something about her, the way she cryptically says maybe he dis deserve it, the way she cryptically says she'd rather not say if she's trying to kill him... my guess is Sasha's popularity is partially because of her mystery and always seeming to be in the background. The charlie's angels vibe when she's walking with her posse is a cute touch though.