VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Jarulf]

Look at these betas, why choose, one, when you can have both. The holy grail throuple of Bella and Nami is the only right way.

Good luck with that.

 

[BobTheDuck]

In your main play through, once Nika's wormy is ready for action again, do you think you'll try to have fun with as many of the girls as possible, a select few, or be faithful to your one true love? Or something else.
It obviously depends on what Ocean cooks up for us storywise, but at a guess?

I'll do multiple saves to see the different paths. Ocean has a habit of different people know different things and you can miss bit's of information even if you think it's just a booty call (that Nika doesn't pick up on), so to get all the details, I have to try it all. But that's impossible in a linear play through - we've already seen that in season one - choosing some options kills others.

But I'm pretty sure Ocean will have a special place for the person who tries to be a manwhore - they don't get an ending with a LI, they'll just have the lewdable memories of fucking around. BUt the main LI's won't trust they have a future with Nika, most likely.

 

[Mamaragan]

 

[BeingADikDik]

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[Mamaragan]

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[dameromexxx]

But I'm pretty sure Ocean will have a special place for the person who tries to be a manwhore - they don't get an ending with a LI, they'll just have the lewdable memories of fucking around. BUt the main LI's won't trust they have a future with Nika, most likely.

Whenever I hear about the possible introduction of the Manwhore path the first question I always ask myself is with who?

Let's start with the fact that doing it behind other girls' backs in a college where someone always opens a door by accident, says something by accident or hears something by accident is not very realistic

Nika must have permission to fool around
So I take the list confirmed LI and
Amber - Risks her entire reputation and career for a guy who only sleeps with her sometimes
Bella - ''Ok Nika we have no strings attachet '' she says with resting bitch face Bella turns around her big brows contort in an angry grimace then she starts thinking of a thousand ways to get rid of her rivals
Marla - Maybe but the same problem as Amber
Mila - For her it would look like whoring everyone knows what she thinks about it
Nadia - ''I rejected every guy who asked me out on a date but for you Nika I can be one of your fuck toys''
Nami - Theoretically she can do anything to not be rejected but slight physical contact between Nika and Mila or Zara was enough to make her look like she wanted to strangle them
Nia - Probably only possible in an arrangement with her camgirl friends but she'll probably want to make it clear that she's only borrowing her property
Sasha - ''Of course Nika it's so romantic''
Sonya - Going to war with your whole family just to be one of many is not an option.
Vanessa - Being one of Nika's many toys means being totally dominated she'll never allow it
Victoria - She's determined enough to agree to it but Maja will cut your balls off and do everything to keep her away from it
Zara - Too competitive

If they are to be part of this Manwhore Path it mostly will look forced and unnatural.
None of the revealed LIs fit the Slutty College Girl archetype, not even Nia because she doesn't want to be seen as a Sex Trophy, and if you really think about it, I don't think I've seen any in the entire game that could be classified as that group.

So who could it be?
Side Girls which are confirmed to be Lewdable ?
Set of Girls chosen from those who are hanging around in the background in college ?
If this Man-Whore Route is really in the plans it may turn out that he will have to devote a really long time to it. Probably as much as several LI paths together

 

[BobTheDuck]

Whenever I hear about the possible introduction of the Manwhore path the first question I always ask myself is with who?

Let's start with the fact that doing it behind other girls' backs in a college where someone always opens a door by accident, says something by accident or hears something by accident is not very realistic

Nika must have permission to fool around
So I take the list confirmed LI and
Amber - Risks her entire reputation and career for a guy who only sleeps with her sometimes
Bella - ''Ok Nika we have no strings attachet '' she says with resting bitch face Bella turns around her big brows contort in an angry grimace then she starts thinking of a thousand ways to get rid of her rivals
Marla - Maybe but the same problem as Amber
Mila - For her it would look like whoring everyone knows what she thinks about it
Nadia - ''I rejected every guy who asked me out on a date but for you Nika I can be one of your fuck toys''
Nami - Theoretically she can do anything to not be rejected but slight physical contact between Nika and Mila or Zara was enough to make her look like she wanted to strangle them
Nia - Probably only possible in an arrangement with her camgirl friends but she'll probably want to make it clear that she's only borrowing her property
Sasha - ''Of course Nika it's so romantic''
Sonya - Going to war with your whole family just to be one of many is not an option.
Vanessa - Being one of Nika's many toys means being totally dominated she'll never allow it
Victoria - She's determined enough to agree to it but Maja will cut your balls off and do everything to keep her away from it
Zara - Too competitive

If they are to be part of this Manwhore Path it mostly will look forced and unnatural.
None of the revealed LIs fit the Slutty College Girl archetype, not even Nia because she doesn't want to be seen as a Sex Trophy, and if you really think about it, I don't think I've seen any in the entire game that could be classified as that group.

So who could it be?
Side Girls which are confirmed to be Lewdable ?
Set of Girls chosen from those who are hanging around in the background in college ?
If this Man-Whore Route is really in the plans it may turn out that he will have to devote a really long time to it. Probably as much as several LI paths together

THat's exactly why a manwhore path will lock players out of a LI ending. The LI's want a future and a commitment, even when they pretend they don't. If Nika messes around with their trust, they're gone. They might still be friendly, but they don't want to see if Nika will betray their trust.

Side girls who are just after a cheap fling (like Kate), teachers or bookclub members (like Anna or coach Hill),rando hookups with girls who fall for the basketball hero... but it'll be unsatisfying. Maybe it'll lead to a hookup with Melanie.

Possibly Nami of any of the LI's will pick him up after, but even she won't want him while he's messing around I imagine. She's probably going to wait out his phase, or maybe she'll move on if NIka's too much of a bitch.

 

[RNasc4444]

Was more general. I can't see how Amber can work in a non porny way.

I don't either. I doubt it can. You can't make Amber work as a therapist in a serious story if you keep lewding her up. If you want her to be a credible LI and therapist you will have to delay her path significantly to a point where her "job" as the MC's therapist is "done".

I argue she was already not working. It's hard to buy her as a professional therapist when she holds her client, whom she just met, to her bosom like a small child during a session. Or when you catch her in a low cut dress or her pierced nipples are showing. It's a stark contrast to the Amber that pretends she doesn't know the MC at the book club in order to keep his privacy or refuses to discuss he's a patient in front of her daughter.

This is one of the reasons I was so against the addition of that goddamn awful porch scene that has no fucking purpose whatsoever other than provide some lewd shots of Nojiko. It undermines her role of "mother" or caretaker. It cheapens the story and the character. As hot as she is (and goddamn she fucking IS hot), as much as I want to see lewds of her, I value the story more.

So you gotta pick a lane here. Serious story or porn plot. You can't have both.

 

[OdinTGE]

WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH NOJIKO?

I just played the game and loved it. It's pure CINEMA.
But I just wanna clarify, why is Nojiko often times showed in revealing clothes, and intimate with the MC?
Is that all there is to it or will there be something else between them?

Because the dev just picks whatever clothes look sexy for no reason other than that. After the lips and tits being too big, this is my biggest complaint about the game. It's supposed to "not be a porn game" but the only place women dress like they do in the game is in porn. It happens in a lot of AVNs. It's annoying every time.

This is one of the reasons I was so against the addition of that goddamn awful porch scene that has no fucking purpose whatsoever other than provide some lewd shots of Nojiko. It undermines her role of "mother" or caretaker. It cheapens the story and the character. As hot as she is (and goddamn she fucking IS hot), as much as I want to see lewds of her, I value the story more.

100% agree here. Nojiko is probably the 2nd hottest in the game after Nami. Though, it's not like there's too much competition since most of the women have blow-up doll proportions. Despite all that, I'd have much rather she not be having a motherly heart to heart while barely wearing a robe.

 

[yossa999]

Possibly Nami of any of the LI's will pick him up after

Possibly not only Nami

you can be a cocky jerk that wonders why that big boobed girl in the wheelchair still likes you after a story of you snorting coke from Miss Hill's ass went live in order to fight your hangover and be able to play.

 

[RNasc4444]

100% agree here. Nojiko is probably the 2nd hottest in the game after Nami. Though, it's not like there's too much competition since most of the women have blow doll proportions.

I wouldn't say most honestly. I think there are still many characters with more natural and modest proportions. Maja, Sasha, Robin, Nancy, The Twins, Kate, Vanessa, Ayua, Claire...

We just have to hope they don't grab Ocean's attention or favoritism or they will inevitably get the disgusting patented "bimbo treatment". I hope to God he keeps fiddling with Mila, Vic, Zara, Sonya, Nia, Nadia, Hill, Karen, Marla, Harrison, Cindy, Layla or the majority of the book club gals...they are all pretty much unsalvageable at this point

 

[LHDLLB]

I don't either. I doubt it can. You can't make Amber work as a therapist in a serious story if you keep lewding her up. If you want her to be a credible LI and therapist you will have to delay her path significantly to a point where her "job" as the MC's therapist is "done".

I argue she was already not working. It's hard to buy her as a professional therapist when she holds her client, whom she just met, to her bosom like a small child during a session. Or when you catch her in a low cut dress or her pierced nipples are showing. It's a stark contrast to the Amber that pretends she doesn't know the MC at the book club in order to keep his privacy or refuses to discuss he's a patient in front of her daughter.

This is one of the reasons I was so against the addition of that goddamn awful porch scene that has no fucking purpose whatsoever other than provide some lewd shots of Nojiko. It undermines her role of "mother" or caretaker. It cheapens the story and the character. As hot as she is (and goddamn she fucking IS hot), as much as I want to see lewds of her, I value the story more.

So you gotta pick a lane here. Serious story or porn plot. You can't have both.

What I find odd is that WiaB has not these erotic shot out of place, I think that in SG Ocean tries to compensate the lack of lewds with a more erotic atmosphere that sometimes backfires.

 

[Ray_D]

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[BobTheDuck]

I'm outta reacts, I get one back then they're gone

I don't either. I doubt it can. You can't make Amber work as a therapist in a serious story if you keep lewding her up. If you want her to be a credible LI and therapist you will have to delay her path significantly to a point where her "job" as the MC's therapist is "done".

I argue she was already not working. It's hard to buy her as a professional therapist when she holds her client, whom she just met, to her bosom like a small child during a session. Or when you catch her in a low cut dress or her pierced nipples are showing. It's a stark contrast to the Amber that pretends she doesn't know the MC at the book club in order to keep his privacy or refuses to discuss he's a patient in front of her daughter.

This is one of the reasons I was so against the addition of that goddamn awful porch scene that has no fucking purpose whatsoever other than provide some lewd shots of Nojiko. It undermines her role of "mother" or caretaker. It cheapens the story and the character. As hot as she is (and goddamn she fucking IS hot), as much as I want to see lewds of her, I value the story more.

So you gotta pick a lane here. Serious story or porn plot. You can't have both.

I agree. The issue is that a high enough percentage of the supporters want a porn game, and some level of fan service is inevitable. In WiaB, that's easier, because Katie is the fan service, and then there are the other LI's for people who don't want the best girl. All Ocean has to do there is release emergency Katie renders and the fans are happy. Lewds? well we KNOW there will be in WiaB, so we're not impatient, even if it will take Katie's path a while to open. But we have lewds, no need to pretend. In SG without lewds, everything has to be some level of bait. Gotta keep people guessing, gotta cover every interest, maximise the appeal.

At some point (S2CH1 by the looks of it) we'll have at least some form of lewds, accidental or otherwise. Porn logic will to some extent is written into the game - all these hot LI's with no prospects? Why is Nika better than Jeff or Aziz? It's not because of Nika's amazing social etiquette. So porn logic, all girls find the MC irresistable. At least we know it's him and not his sausage they find irresistable for a change.

I was glad when Ocean reworked Amber's office scenes. The even better move would have just been to make her blouse non see-through. Simpler, and gives of that stict professional look.

Ocean might say that it's story first, but ultimately his audience is mostly into porn. I just hope he doesn't let the porn logic make too many decisions.

Because the dev just picks whatever clothes look sexy for no reason other than that. After the lips and tits being too big, this is my biggest complaint about the game. It's supposed to "not be a porn game" but the only place women dress like they do in the game is in porn. It happens in a lot of AVNs. It's annoying every time.



100% agree here. Nojiko is probably the 2nd hottest in the game after Nami. Though, it's not like there's too much competition since most of the women have blow-up doll proportions. Despite all that, I'd have much rather she not be having a motherly heart to heart while barely wearing a robe.

Alternatively, Ocean started two porn games and subverted the porn logic, but learned how to make VN by playing porn games. No one wears BDSM gear to class, most women can't afford that level of make up daily, and most can't be assed after the first three weeks. SOmething i noticed at uni - overly attractive women became serious women after they settled in and felt comfortable going to uni without major makeup like they worse going out at night. A couple of assignments due and suddenly we got the real them.

Basically everyone looks like they're modelling clothing and their lifestyle, representing their influencer self 24/7. The fake eyelashes are the biggest giveaway.

Possibly not only Nami

Yeah, but Maja might change the locks

 

[dameromexxx]

Yes, at least is what I am hoping for.

Was more general. I can't see how Amber can work in a non porny way.

I understand now you just don't want this romance to look like a scenario for My Friends Hot Mom or My First Sex Teacher.
I think this relationship has to deepen to the point where the situation is reversed and Nika becomes a kind of therapist for her. This Bond has to be really strong to be worth taking the risk. For me this is the real ''Race Against Impossible Odds'' of this game, this romance has SCANDAL written in capital letters. An affair with a patient of a person from the elite of this city, not to mention connections with Bella. It's easy to imagine what will happen if Nicole finds out about it

 

[OdinTGE]

Basically everyone looks like they're modelling clothing and their lifestyle, representing their influencer self 24/7. The fake eyelashes are the biggest giveaway.

It's more than that. I absolutely don't remember her name, or when exactly it was, but at one point there's a woman in class wearing something so low cut, and her tits are so scaled up, that her areolas are just out and about for everybody to see. The outfits the women wear in this game are just pure porn fantasy. It's actually a shame I like the characters and story, because it's overall just a frustrating experience playing the game. Trying to enjoy that stuff while being annoyed by everything else.

 

[jadepaladin]

I'm still looking for a therapist that wears see through blouses, has pierced nips, will cradle me, doesn't mind if I call her mommy, and isn't the premise to a porn.

I think SG has altered my view on reality somewhat.

In WiaB, that's easier, because Katie is the fan service, and then there are the other LI's for people who don't want the best girl. All Ocean has to do there is release emergency Katie renders and the fans are happy.

Emergency Katie renders do placate me, damn.

 

[LHDLLB]

I understand now you just don't want this romance to look like a scenario for My Friends Hot Mom or My First Sex Teacher.
I think this relationship has to deepen to the point where the situation is reversed and Nika becomes a kind of therapist for her. This Bond has to be really strong to be worth taking the risk. For me this is the real ''Race Against Impossible Odds'' of this game, this romance has SCANDAL written in capital letters. An affair with a patient of a person from the elite of this city, not to mention connections with Bella. It's easy to imagine what will happen if Nicole finds out about it

The position of power, the age gap. Everything is a bomb with Amber. I would like if she was something of a man eater. Like it is porny too, but less so than fuck me pretending I am Summer, or we are stuck on this hotel room with only one bed. Like, I will like if Amber is the one doing the chasing, lets lean in the predatory aspect of it. It is fucked up só let it be fucked up, don't try to excuse it. At least it can make sense then

 

[Holyx9]

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If Ocean can cut down 6-8 weeks of development time per update than this work station upgrade was well worth it.

 

[BobTheDuck]

It's more than that. I absolutely don't remember her name, or when exactly it was, but at one point there's a woman in class wearing something so low cut, and her tits are so scaled up, that her areolas are just out and about for everybody to see. The outfits the women wear in this game are just pure porn fantasy. It's actually a shame I like the characters and story, because it's overall just a frustrating experience playing the game. Trying to enjoy that stuff while being annoyed by everything else.

Yeah, that sort of stuff has no place regardless. I thinkt hat was Ayua in the previews, Ocean already did the same with Marla. Making characters develop into whether they're getting any or not doesn't serve the story, agreed. But on the whole, everyone is far too glamorous for normal life. I get the reason, I don't like it though. Luckily these moments are the odd ones out. If there's some sort of logic - like when Vanessa mentions sexy underwear is more comfortable for sports, at last we have plausible deniability.

No one no matter how horny would be risking public exposure like Ayua was. Nika couldn't even see the show she put on! First time I saw Ocean do this was in WiaB when you're at Relucia with Leia. It looked super cheap then, and doesn't get better with better renders.