VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Hobocop Harrier du bois]

The same frickin arguments again and again. I stg you guys are worse than my drunk parents used to be.

 

[AlexFXR]

And I guess since the other dev isn't german he's dealing with less taxes

Ocean pays such high taxes only because of his stupidity, and he could have not paid, but that is a completely different story.

 

[KekWGgWP]

Before DIK was updated, I would have guessed WiAB in April... But the way things are going it should be in June.

And with all due respect to Ocean fans, DIK is much more complex to make than SG and WiAB.

Yeah but the dev is working at two games at the same time, it's not as complex as BaDIK because it doesn't have as many animations or sex animations or a sandbox mechanic but it's a lot of work regardless.

I prefered if he would have worked at one game at the time instead, it could have been much easier and less time consuming.

 

[AlexFXR]

BaDIK is more complex only programmatically. Scene set ups and lighting are much more simplistic, takes less time to set up each scene and likely less or no test renders of the same scene set up.
Which takes considerably less time than the complex scenes that Ocean creates.

Unfortunately, Ocean doesn't do photorealism like all developers of similar games, so he doesn't have complex scenes.

 

[The unseen]

This game has a longer dev time than Being a DIK

Well then let's hope his update isn't as bad as Being a DIK eh?

 

[Deleted member 7769805]

Well then let's hope his update isn't as bad as Being a DIK eh?

Are you being a DIK about it ?

 

[alanrock]

Well then let's hope his update isn't as bad as Being a DIK eh?

No freeroams or minigames, and prettier Bella. It's good enough for me.

 

[RNasc4444]

I'm gonna be that guy but LEWD people. The big difference is LEWD

Kinda sad that Kojima's Death Stranding 2 trailer got me harder in 10 minutes then Summer's Gone has in 5 years

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[alanrock]

Kinda sad that Kojima's Death Stranding 2 trailer got me harder in 10 minutes then Summer's Gone has in 5 years

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I see Nika in you. Did you go through anything traumatic when you were younger?

 

[RNasc4444]

I see Nika in you. Did you go through anything traumatic when you were younger?

Hahaha not at all. Absolutely normal and unremarkable childhood by any standards. And I take that as an offense. I find the MC utterly unrelatable with the exception that neither of us can conjure up a boner when Bella takes her clothes off

 

[Elduriel]

No freeroams or minigames

and thank fuck for that

 

[Dr.TSoni]

I find the MC utterly unrelatable with the exception that neither of us can conjure up a boner when Bella takes her clothes off

Not even a comment about Zara?

 

[RNasc4444]

Not even a comment about Zara?
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Like I said...unrelatable. I'd keep a healthy distance from someone like her at all times. And my eyes would roll into my skull everytime I'd be within earshot of someone like her. I just can't take it.

 

[LHDLLB]

Like I said...unrelatable. I'd keep a healthy distance from someone like her at all times. And my eyes would roll into my skull everytime I'd be within earshot of someone like her. I just can't take it.

I am curious how is Zara unbearable and Bella not ? Bella is a full out bitch, Zara made a dumb mistake and has apologise for it.

 

[RNasc4444]

I am curious how is Zara unbearable and Bella not ? Bella is a full out bitch, Zara made a dumb mistake and has apologise for it.

Man I've addressed this so many times. In short, to me, characters like Bella and Vanessa put up a bitchy front but immediately fold when called out. They are transparent that way. They are aware of the façade they put up. And what you see beyond that façade is pleasant to me. Gives a healthy and nice balance to the character.

Then there are characters like Zara and Nia. Damaged goods with so little self awareness. They aren't putting up a façade, they're just unbearable. To listen to. To watch. To be around. I just want out whenever they're on the screen. Zara's "competitiveness" drives me up a wall. Poorly handled mommy issues reeking of insecurity, manifesting themselves in the worst way...arrogance. I don't want to even play that game with her.

Trust me I'd be harder on Vic too if she hadn't had the accident. Too much sweetness and naiveté can become harder to stomach later on.

EDIT: To be clearer: what I despise most about Zara is the fact that all her sense of self worth seems to be tied to "winning". I can't take it. And I don't know how else to put this in a way anyone who likes her can understand my perspective.

 

[Krytax123]

Man I've addressed this so many times. In short, to me, characters like Bella and Vanessa put up a bitchy front but immediately fold when called out. They are transparent that way. They are aware of the façade they put up. And what you see beyond that façade is pleasant to me. Gives a healthy and nice balance to the character.

Then there are characters like Zara and Nia. Damaged goods with so little self awareness. They aren't putting up a façade, they're just unbearable. To listen to. To watch. To be around. I just want out whenever they're on the screen. Zara's "competitiveness" drives me up a wall. Poorly handled mommy issues reeking of insecurity, manifesting themselves in the worst way...arrogance. I don't want to even play that game with her.

Trust me I'd be harder on Vic too if she hadn't had the accident. Too much sweetness and naiveté can become harder to stomach later on.

EDIT: To be clearer: what I despise most about Zara is the fact that all her sense of self worth seems to be tied to "winning". I can't take it. And I don't know how else to put this in a way anyone who likes her can understand my perspective.

I really like Zara but can understand your perspective, shes kind of a sad character with sad/wrong motivations but i still really like her lol, shes so genuine when shes happy.

Im not the biggest fan of vic tho but im not even sure i would call her naive, shes just ... different/crazy lol. I know you dont like nia but vic calling out mila for trashtalking nia being a camgirl surprised me or at least was unexpected, imo she has a good moral compass despite being a weirdo lol

 

[The Krogan Dude]

Man I've addressed this so many times. In short, to me, characters like Bella and Vanessa put up a bitchy front but immediately fold when called out. They are transparent that way. They are aware of the façade they put up. And what you see beyond that façade is pleasant to me. Gives a healthy and nice balance to the character.

Which balance are we talking about ? Bella is nothing more than a paper of tiger who's just as snobish and condescending than the rich assholes she despises. While both Zara and Bella had it rough during her childhood, Zara didn't turn into a bully. On the contrary she took Victoria's defense more than once and even saved her from Melanie Cerill and stood for herself.

Bella on the other hand, just hided behind Ayua's skirt and mommy's money. Then once she started to be more confident became a bully herself, humiliating Nami for no reason, constantly mocking and poor shaming people below her social statut, making fun of Victoria situation because a paraplegic can only do the starfish haha While Nika realized that their stupid revenge plot put Mila in trouble, he at least show some remorse, Bella was just pleased with herself than an innocent took the shot for them. Nika even called her out for it. She constantly pushes others buttons with no regard for their feelings but of course once Nika gave her a taste of her own medicine, she cried like a little bitch and we're supposed to be deeply sorry for her.

Then during the date, even tho she admitted herself than the woman she has targered didn't deserve it, she attacked her where she knew it would hurt the most, just to have a diversion. But we're supposed to not judge her so harshly because she feels bad about it but still did it anyway ?

She ain't a badass or a tough girl, just a condescending coward with no guts and a hypocrite, lucky enough to have mommy's money

 

[Krytax123]

Which balance are we talking about ? Bella is nothing more than a paper of tiger who's just as snobish and condescending than the rich assholes she despises. While both Zara and Bella had it rough during her childhood, Zara didn't turn into a bully. On the contrary she took Victoria's defense more than once and even saved her from Melanie Cerill and stood for herself.

Bella on the other hand, just hided behind Ayua's skirt and mommy's money. Then once she started to be more confident became a bully herself, humiliating Nami for no reason, constantly mocking and poor shaming people below her social statut, making fun of Victoria situation because a paraplegic can only do the starfish haha While Nika realized that their stupid revenge plot put Mila in trouble, he at least show some remorse, Bella was just pleased with herself than an innocent took the shot for them. Nika even called her out for it. She constantly pushes others buttons with no regard for their feelings but of course once Nika gave her a taste of her own medicine, she cried like a little bitch and we're supposed to be deeply sorry for her.

Then during the date, even tho she admitted herself than the woman she has targered didn't deserve it, she attacked her where she knew it would hurt the most, just to have a diversion. But we're supposed to not judge her so harshly because she feels bad about it but still did it anyway ?

She ain't a badass or a tough girl, just a condescending coward with no guts and a hypocrite, lucky enough to have mommy's money

Yeez you killed and burried bella like three times with this comment, let the rest of us enjoy her as long as it lasts

at least shes gorgeous, unique and funny right? riiiiiiiiiiiight?

 

[RNasc4444]

Which balance are we talking about ? Bella is nothing more than a paper of tiger who's just as snobish and condescending than the rich assholes she despises. While both Zara and Bella had it rough during her childhood, Zara didn't turn into a bully. On the contrary she took Victoria's defense more than once and even saved her from Melanie Cerill and stood for herself.

Bella on the other hand, just hided behind Ayua's skirt and mommy's money. Then once she started to be more confident became a bully herself, humiliating Nami for no reason, constantly mocking and poor shaming people below her social statut, making fun of Victoria situation because a paraplegic can only do the starfish haha While Nika realized that their stupid revenge plot put Mila in trouble, he at least show some remorse, Bella was just pleased with herself than an innocent took the shot for them. Nika even called her out for it. She constantly pushes others buttons with no regard for their feelings but of course once Nika gave her a taste of her own medicine, she cried like a little bitch and we're supposed to be deeply sorry for her.

Then during the date, even tho she admitted herself than the woman she has targered didn't deserve it, she attacked her where she knew it would hurt the most, just to have a diversion. But we're supposed to not judge her so harshly because she feels bad about it but still did it anyway ?

She ain't a badass or a tough girl, just a condescending coward with no guts and a hypocrite, lucky enough to have mommy's money

I can totally see your point of view. That's how I saw her too at first. But what began to shift my perspective was the image I had of her (and most of the cast of the game has of her) did not match that of Ayua and Nadia for example. Why would two nice and pleasant girls defend their bitch friend so fiercely? Then it dawned on me. Her nasty behavior is a front she uses to keep most people away. It's easier to hate everyone if they already hate you. She doesn't have to care about anyone else and no one will dare mess with her.

Does any of that excuse her behavior? Fuck no! But at least I know that's not the true Bella.

I'm not gonna die on any hill for Bella though. If you hate her I get it. I just don't share the sentiment.

 

[Miranha157]

Yeah but the dev is working at two games at the same time, it's not as complex as BaDIK because it doesn't have as many animations or sex animations or a sandbox mechanic but it's a lot of work regardless.

I prefered if he would have worked at one game at the time instead, it could have been much easier and less time consuming.

If Ocean were organized, it would be possible to focus 6 months on SG and 6 months on WiAB, but while fans tell him to take as much time as he needs, we will have to wait for him to finish a chapter every 2 years.