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UncleFappy

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My friend, you must have loved someone in your life or had a friend, but for some reason it didn't work out. Are you going to spend your life a loner. I wouldn't, understand those are circumstances a move on. Ocean is doing this either he may have trust issue like you mentioned or thinks only he can do it as a narcissist.
So. If you had read my post more slowly, you would have noticed I started it with "I would add". I'm agreeing with your post and adding a possible additional reason, my dude.

I know its hard to think straight when you're on a hate boner, but chill out.
 

yossa999

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[...] appointing a supporter dev to increase production. [...]
You may not know, but SG was originally developed by such a supporter dev, Regium, to whom Ocean handed over his plot (as far as I understand, it was pretty rough and sketchy at the time). And Ocean himself worked exclusively on WiAB (though, rumors say, he was already dabbling in developing a second game with FMC in the background :Kappa:).
It didn't work, as already on the 2nd chapter of SG, Ocean first had to help him with creating renders (and in the end, almost completely redo all the graphics for chapter 2) and then Regium get away from SG development and Ocean was left with two games and two fan bases, some of which can't stand the other game.

There have also been some negative attempts to outsource some of the work. But there is also a positive part, for example, now he has a guy who helps him with coding and UI.

Also he explained why he wouldn't hire someone to help him with the art in this log
obviously in the section "Why don't you just hire someone to help you with the art?" :
https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-s1-steam-dlc-oceanlab.29981/post-15807653

To take one whole year for just 1 chapter to get relased is diabolical, if it was a whole season I get it.
I heard about a developer who spent ~14 months on the latest update to his AVN. The guy made a few million by the most conservative estimates.
 

byaaahh

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What's with the uptick in criticism in this and WiaB threads in the last week? Doesn't feel organic, feels more like a brigade.

We know that WiaB is in testing and SG is sitting at 7000+ renders and a number of animations, developed roughly the same duration (12-16 months) as other big titles is coming in the next few months. Yet people are pitching a fit that it's not coming at a pace they deem acceptable.

Chill the fuck out.
 

yossa999

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What's with the uptick in criticism in this and WiaB threads in the last week? Doesn't feel organic, feels more like a brigade.

We know that WiaB is in testing and SG is sitting at 7000+ renders and a number of animations, developed roughly the same duration (12-16 months) as other big titles is coming in the next few months. Yet people are pitching a fit that it's not coming at a pace they deem acceptable.

Chill the fuck out.
Ocean's threads have always been like this. They seem to attract the most special people in the entire zone. In the WiAB thread on the day of Chapter 3's release, a couple of hours before the release, they were still convincing each other that he couldn't do it and would postpone the release until next year. They got on the mods' nerves so much that they even made a separate off-topic thread for them to whine about. But they weren't interested - there wasn't enough audience in the off-topic thread to watch their shit show.
 

UncleFappy

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What's with the uptick in criticism in this and WiaB threads in the last week? Doesn't feel organic, feels more like a brigade.

We know that WiaB is in testing and SG is sitting at 7000+ renders and a number of animations, developed roughly the same duration (12-16 months) as other big titles is coming in the next few months. Yet people are pitching a fit that it's not coming at a pace they deem acceptable.

Chill the fuck out.
I don't think there IS an acceptable pace for gooners. Goon hard, goon fast, goon always.
 

byaaahh

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Ocean's threads have always been like this. They seem to attract the most special people in the entire zone. In the WiAB thread on the day of Chapter 3's release, a couple of hours before the release, they were still convincing each other that he couldn't do it and would postpone the release until next year. They got on the mods' nerves so much that they even made a separate off-topic thread for them to whine about. But they weren't interested - there wasn't enough audience in the off-topic thread to watch their shit show.
There's always been the odd comment here and there, but the dooming has been another level recently.

I honestly think it's BD's fault, so many delays to WVM spiralled that thread to the point people can't even be bothered shitting on him anymore. Seems like that shit hit the fan and every thread is getting spattered.
 

yossa999

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There's always been the odd comment here and there, but the dooming has been another level recently.

I honestly think it's BD's fault, so many delays to WVM spiralled that thread to the point people can't even be bothered shitting on him anymore. Seems like that shit hit the fan and every thread is getting spattered.
Yes, there is always a lot of drama around basketball AVNs. :KEK:
 

Tk_1004@

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Man i am just waiting for fresher vs 1st team basketball event and now I am thinking it is going to be impossible to see it in my college year maybe in next 3 to 4 years.
 

Capt_Kirk

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Writing? What writing? LMAO. The game’s still stuck in the first week of college after six years of development — and somehow only Bella got any actual character development.
i've been saying that everybody should chip in so we can buy writing 101 for dummies and send it to Ocean as a gift .
maybe his barely existing writing skills could get a bit better.
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Garvelt

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What's with the uptick in criticism in this and WiaB threads in the last week? Doesn't feel organic, feels more like a brigade.

We know that WiaB is in testing and SG is sitting at 7000+ renders and a number of animations, developed roughly the same duration (12-16 months) as other big titles is coming in the next few months. Yet people are pitching a fit that it's not coming at a pace they deem acceptable.

Chill the fuck out.
Maybe it's got to do with that 12-16 month period between the updates you mentioned? He might be making the same or even more renders daily than other prolific devs out there, but not having regular updates sours the mood for many, including me. He might be putting in the work, but it doesn't show. We basically went from three updates per year to two and now not even one. And I hear you, the content will be big when it eventually comes out, but it's still not the same.

There is also the fact that both fanbases know very well that neither of these games is ever going to be finished with the current pace and the 30 chapter plan, so there's an underlying negativity that follows both games.
 

jacu_ZZ_i

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Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC Update 1] [Oceanlab]

COMPRESSED:

Win/Linux:
- MEGA - PIXELDRAIN - WORKUPLOAD

Mac:
- MEGA - PIXELDRAIN - WORKUPLOAD
Somehow when I ran the mac version, it gave me this kind of error tho, need help. Hasn't even played the game, so I confused where I go wrong


Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 282, in script
    python:
ScriptError: could not find label 'start'.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "/private/var/folders/w2/_xncpbhx3jjf77_rdl156xyr0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/3AF69FB0-1DA1-4932-AE91-9C29DFC74015/d/SummersGone_Season1_Steam.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/bootstrap.py", line 275, in bootstrap
    renpy.main.main()
  File "/private/var/folders/w2/_xncpbhx3jjf77_rdl156xyr0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/3AF69FB0-1DA1-4932-AE91-9C29DFC74015/d/SummersGone_Season1_Steam.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/main.py", line 670, in main
    run(restart)
  File "/private/var/folders/w2/_xncpbhx3jjf77_rdl156xyr0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/3AF69FB0-1DA1-4932-AE91-9C29DFC74015/d/SummersGone_Season1_Steam.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/main.py", line 144, in run
    renpy.execution.run_context(True)
  File "/private/var/folders/w2/_xncpbhx3jjf77_rdl156xyr0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/3AF69FB0-1DA1-4932-AE91-9C29DFC74015/d/SummersGone_Season1_Steam.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/execution.py", line 955, in run_context
    context.run()
  File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 282, in script
    python:
  File "/private/var/folders/w2/_xncpbhx3jjf77_rdl156xyr0000gn/T/AppTranslocation/3AF69FB0-1DA1-4932-AE91-9C29DFC74015/d/SummersGone_Season1_Steam.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/script.py", line 1013, in lookup
    raise ScriptError("could not find label '%s'." % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label 'start'.

macOS-15.1.1-arm64-arm-64bit arm64
Ren'Py 8.1.3.23091805
 
Mon Apr 28 19:10:46 2025
 

Crashbullet

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12-16 month period
And where is the benefit, get 2 updates per year for 3.5k renderers, or get 1 update for 7k renderers, hmm:unsure:
+ WIAB 4.5-5K renderers, I can't name anyone with the same performance.

Well, I'm sure that it will switch to 3.5k renderers in half a year, after the release, this is a rule of good taste.
 
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- Not hiring a team.
- Making updates each bigger than previous one and not keeping render count in check.
- Work on longer animations which are only a one time watch and pretty much skipped the next time the game is played.
- 1 update a year per game.


Reminds me of another dev who does exactly the same, difference is that unlike Ocean he is far more obsessed and narcissistic. He can't handle even the slightest of criticism and simply bans anyone on discord who express their issues regarding the game. Who knows how things will play out in future, will Ocean end up being another one like that dev.
 
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- Not hiring a team.
- Making updates each bigger than previous one and not keeping render count in check.
- Work on longer animations which are only a one time watch and pretty much skipped the next time the game is played.
- 1 update a year per game.


Reminds me of another dev who does exactly the same, difference is that unlike Ocean he is far more obsessed and narcissistic. He can't handle even the slightest of criticism and simply bans anyone on discord who express their issues regarding the game. Who knows how things will play out in future, will Ocean end up being another one like that dev.

- Not hiring a team.
- Making updates each bigger than previous one and not keeping render count in check.
- Work on longer animations which are only a one time watch and pretty much skipped the next time the game is played.
- 1 update a year per game.


Reminds me of another dev who does exactly the same, difference is that unlike Ocean he is far more obsessed and narcissistic. He can't handle even the slightest of criticism and simply bans anyone on discord who express their issues regarding the game. Who knows how things will play out in future, will Ocean end up being another one like that dev.
Don’t forget that DPC also doesn’t have a team. A lack of support isn’t the only reason a developer can burn out, it’s also because of ungrateful players like you who only cares about lewds, always complains but play it for free.
 

ItsNotUs

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Don’t forget that DPC also doesn’t have a team. A lack of support isn’t the only reason a developer can burn out, it’s also because of ungrateful players like you who only cares about lewds, always complains but play it for free.
And players can't burn out waiting for an update for more than a year? And it doesn't matter if it's for money or for free!
Oh, we forgot again that this is a pirate server.
 
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