Don Sucio

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I think as time goes on SG will have some darker stuff, I mean Bella did do a hit and run, Melanie attempted to murder Vic as a kid, whatever Nami did and the violent incident was also are going to be dark. I think the no dark path is more that there is no path where Nika becomes one with the dark side. It's his story of redemption from over thinking and over feeling, not the story of how he breaks anyone. So dark themes will still be present, just not choices moving away from healing. That's how I understand it anyway. There will be tension, not everything will be hadpats and handholding.

So if that's true, there can still be some disturbing things other than Seigbert.

Capability we'll find out. While the story keeps us interested, he's doing it well, that's the only real criteria for me.

I don't think we'll find out about the violent incident too quickly. A reval like that will tell too much, Nika will make us work for that knowledge :HideThePain:
I´m with you, yeah.

I can wait some more years before finding out what happened in the violent incident :LOL:. But i think it could be revealed between season 2 or 3, maybe 3 or 4? (I don´t remember how many seasons is going to have the game).

About the dark path i have said so many times that i always have been a fan of dark paths, i enjoy being the "bad boy", freedom in games are the best. But i understand why Ocean decided to retire that path, the story is (imo) better with a redemption arc, more emotions.

But i think is still viable to be a little dark, for example take revenge on certains characters or maybe line up with bad characters like that girl who is bad and Bella´s enemy (i don´t remember her name, maybe Cerill, Melani? :unsure:). There may be options where Nika is bad buuut is still healing, or at least i hope so. I want to see some fetishes that maybe are "dark", like femdom (Veronica?), peggind (Maja?) and that stuff, i think those fetishes fit better in a "dark" path, and of course those situations where the MC lose, like that time when Zara and Nadia(?) lock up Nika in the locker room , that scene was very hot imo but at the end nothing happened, i would be happy with more of that but with a proper ending ;). Is good too imo to have some situations where Nika lose, after all he is not Superman and i think makes him more real.

Buuuut, as always Ocean has the answers we are looking for.
 
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I´m with you, yeah.

I can wait some more years before finding out what happened in the violent incident :LOL:. But i think it could be revealed between season 2 or 3, maybe 3 or 4? (I don´t remember how many seasons is going to have the game).

About the dark path i have said so many times that i always have been a fan of dark paths, i enjoy being the "bad boy", freedom in games are the best. But i understand why Ocean decided to retire that path, the story is (imo) better with a redemption arc, more emotions.

But i think is still viable to be a little dark, for example take revenge on certains characters or maybe line up with bad characters like that girl who is bad and Bella´s enemy (i don´t remember her name, maybe Cerill, Melani? :unsure:). There may be options where Nika is bad buuut is still healing, or at least i hope so. I want to see some fetishes that maybe are "dark", like femdom (Veronica?), peggind (Maja?) and that stuff, i think those fetishes fit better in a "dark" path, and of course those situations where the MC lose, like that time when Zara and Nadia(?) lock up Nika in the locker room , that scene was very hot imo but at the end nothing happened, i would be happy with more of that but with a proper ending ;). Is good too imo to have some situations where Nika lose, after all he is not Superman and i think makes him more real.

Buuuut, as always Ocean has the answers we are looking for.
Maja sadly isn't an LI. Ocean has confirmed this. At best you'll get some booba and ass shots i guess.
 

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I think as time goes on SG will have some darker stuff, I mean Bella did do a hit and run, Melanie attempted to murder Vic as a kid, whatever Nami did and the violent incident was also are going to be dark. I think the no dark path is more that there is no path where Nika becomes one with the dark side. It's his story of redemption from over thinking and over feeling, not the story of how he breaks anyone. So dark themes will still be present, just not choices moving away from healing. That's how I understand it anyway. There will be tension, not everything will be hadpats and handholding.

So if that's true, there can still be some disturbing things other than Seigbert.

Capability we'll find out. While the story keeps us interested, he's doing it well, that's the only real criteria for me.

I don't think we'll find out about the violent incident too quickly. A reval like that will tell too much, Nika will make us work for that knowledge :HideThePain:
I don't think sg will have darker scenes. Ocean really made it clear when he deleted the gun scene. The game will have, I think, some adult themed scenes, and I don't mean the sexual kind. But actual dark shit like the OG game was supposed to have? Nah. I think that's reserved for WIAB.
 

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Maja sadly isn't an LI. Ocean has confirmed this. At best you'll get some booba and ass shots i guess.
Oh, I know!

If i´m not wrong Maja would be lewdable, maybe some sex scene before she understands what she is doing and blah blah blah. I think it´s still possible to have some fun with her, just not like a couple or something extendable to all the story.

If i´m not wrong something similar can happen with Amber. I´m replaying the game now so there are soo many thing i have forgotten.
 

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I´m with you, yeah.

I can wait some more years before finding out what happened in the violent incident :LOL:. But i think it could be revealed between season 2 or 3, maybe 3 or 4? (I don´t remember how many seasons is going to have the game).

About the dark path i have said so many times that i always have been a fan of dark paths, i enjoy being the "bad boy", freedom in games are the best. But i understand why Ocean decided to retire that path, the story is (imo) better with a redemption arc, more emotions.

But i think is still viable to be a little dark, for example take revenge on certains characters or maybe line up with bad characters like that girl who is bad and Bella´s enemy (i don´t remember her name, maybe Cerill, Melani? :unsure:). There may be options where Nika is bad buuut is still healing, or at least i hope so. I want to see some fetishes that maybe are "dark", like femdom (Veronica?), peggind (Maja?) and that stuff, i think those fetishes fit better in a "dark" path, and of course those situations where the MC lose, like that time when Zara and Nadia(?) lock up Nika in the locker room , that scene was very hot imo but at the end nothing happened, i would be happy with more of that but with a proper ending ;). Is good too imo to have some situations where Nika lose, after all he is not Superman and i think makes him more real.

Buuuut, as always Ocean has the answers we are looking for.
Well, as I say, we've still got Nika getting into fights, he'll go to train with Ayua for what if there are no other fights? I can imagine the scene with those two idiot racers getting violent next time he meets them. No one's pushed Nika's buttons yet either, but we saw he wants to get serious when Zara/Robin/Nadia used Nami as a lure. So someone will use his emotions against him at some point and he'll lash out. It won't dark enough to glorify violence (and I'm glad of that personally), but there will be teeth. Vanessa we already know can be dangerous in some way from the way she talks about "Miss Steiner" - that was pretty threatening, asserting dominance. And Maja having a shibari fetish ...why would we need to know that specifically where we've already seen the box of toys unless it's there? Then we've got the stuff with Bella's sister and dad. That won't be happy. So there will be dark ideas and events, but it won't be RE (as funny as that would be for at least 5 min).

I don't think sg will have darker scenes. Ocean really made it clear when he deleted the gun scene. The game will have, I think, some adult themed scenes, and I don't mean the sexual kind. But actual dark shit like the OG game was supposed to have? Nah. I think that's reserved for WIAB.
The dark path not being present is different to whether there will be further trauma for NIka to process. If there's no further trauma, he's just in cotton wool, he hasn't healed. Ocean took away the gun scene, but left a gun on Bella's desk. There has to be implications of consequence. The original dark path was Nika being abusive. So remove the abusive part, there can still be really dark moments, like what we know about Melanie attempting murder. I think the dark moments won't be that dark, but there will be some serious fights I imagine, especially as Bella's already done one hit and run, and Marla's done the hit. We can have more of that easily. But it won't be the main direction, otherwise it won't be about healing. Just enough seriousness to show Nika developing life skills and fortitude when Maja ties him up maybe?
 

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Well, as I say, we've still got Nika getting into fights, he'll go to train with Ayua for what if there are no other fights? I can imagine the scene with those two idiot racers getting violent next time he meets them. No one's pushed Nika's buttons yet either, but we saw he wants to get serious when Zara/Robin/Nadia used Nami as a lure. So someone will use his emotions against him at some point and he'll lash out. It won't dark enough to glorify violence (and I'm glad of that personally), but there will be teeth. Vanessa we already know can be dangerous in some way from the way she talks about "Miss Steiner" - that was pretty threatening, asserting dominance. And Maja having a shibari fetish ...why would we need to know that specifically where we've already seen the box of toys unless it's there? Then we've got the stuff with Bella's sister and dad. That won't be happy. So there will be dark ideas and events, but it won't be RE (as funny as that would be for at least 5 min).



The dark path not being present is different to whether there will be further trauma for NIka to process. If there's no further trauma, he's just in cotton wool, he hasn't healed. Ocean took away the gun scene, but left a gun on Bella's desk. There has to be implications of consequence. The original dark path was Nika being abusive. So remove the abusive part, there can still be really dark moments, like what we know about Melanie attempting murder. I think the dark moments won't be that dark, but there will be some serious fights I imagine, especially as Bella's already done one hit and run, and Marla's done the hit. We can have more of that easily. But it won't be the main direction, otherwise it won't be about healing. Just enough seriousness to show Nika developing life skills and fortitude when Maja ties him up maybe?
Maybe it's an issue about how we interpret words. Because everything you said, I don't consider it dark elements. Just adult themes. Bella's gun presence has no dark undertone, unless she suddenly tells you she shot someone, or trying to kill herself with it. The "hit and run" from Bella is more comical and vindictive than "dark". She didn't crush him under her wheel and left this clown crippled for life.

Melanie supposed attempted murder is just a story we hear from Vic, there's no flashback showing us. It's just there to establish her as the sociopathic antagonist.

Since the game is about healing, we'll be encouraged moving from anything considered "dark". This is why I don't think dark stuff are going to be present the way we think.

There will be adult themes like:
Cheating, Rivalry with other colleges that was hinted could turn nasty, the illegal races, the secrets surrounding MC, the book club, Ceril, bullying ect...

But dark stuff like rape, murder, humiliation, blackmail, death, is unlikely imo.
 

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Amber doesn't need to be a now and forever kinda love interest, she's hot now and will be an interesting lewdable character if nothing else. Maja however, she needs to be full on eventual love interest, MC hitting that only a few times would be such a waste of a hottie
 

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Maybe it's an issue about how we interpret words. Because everything you said, I don't consider it dark elements. Just adult themes. Bella's gun presence has no dark undertone, unless she suddenly tells you she shot someone, or trying to kill herself with it. The "hit and run" from Bella is more comical and vindictive than "dark". She didn't crush him under her wheel and left this clown crippled for life.

Melanie supposed attempted murder is just a story we hear from Vic, there's no flashback showing us. It's just there to establish her as the sociopathic antagonist.

Since the game is about healing, we'll be encouraged moving from anything considered "dark". This is why I don't think dark stuff are going to be present the way we think.

There will be adult themes like:
Cheating, Rivalry with other colleges that was hinted could turn nasty, the illegal races, the secrets surrounding MC, the book club, Ceril, bullying ect...

But dark stuff like rape, murder, humiliation, blackmail, death, is unlikely imo.
Yeah, in that sense I don't expect (or personally want) things like rape or blackmail. Until we know what happened to summer though, murder or death aren't ruled out. We still have Emilio present.

Th fact that a hit and run can be considered comical (I personally saw it as a moment which could easily have gotten dark) shows that th focus even in darker themes will be on the surviving trauma aspect, naturally. But I hold to the point that we only know healing because there was a wound that's become a scar, and we only know a broken leg has healed once we can run again. So the dark path is gone, but there will need to be darker elements even if some (like breaking and entering) are seen as a joke rather than taken seriously. I'd love for there to be serious consequences for little things like that, simply because choices should have an impact, not just be different flavours.

So I think you're right - we're mostly agreeing, we just use different degrees to measure.

Amber doesn't need to be a now and forever kinda love interest, she's hot now and will be an interesting lewdable character if nothing else. Maja however, she needs to be full on eventual love interest, MC hitting that only a few times would be such a waste of a hottie
As much as I'd love that to be the case, Vic is really in our way :cry:
 

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Maybe it's an issue about how we interpret words. Because everything you said, I don't consider it dark elements. Just adult themes. Bella's gun presence has no dark undertone, unless she suddenly tells you she shot someone, or trying to kill herself with it. The "hit and run" from Bella is more comical and vindictive than "dark". She didn't crush him under her wheel and left this clown crippled for life.

Melanie supposed attempted murder is just a story we hear from Vic, there's no flashback showing us. It's just there to establish her as the sociopathic antagonist.

Since the game is about healing, we'll be encouraged moving from anything considered "dark". This is why I don't think dark stuff are going to be present the way we think.

There will be adult themes like:
Cheating, Rivalry with other colleges that was hinted could turn nasty, the illegal races, the secrets surrounding MC, the book club, Ceril, bullying ect...

But dark stuff like rape, murder, humiliation, blackmail, death, is unlikely imo.
Well, some things like rape or murder i´m pretty sure there aren´t going to be in this game too, but if we look to the humiliation thing we already have some scenes, for example Nika tied up in the locker room , at least for me is humiliating... Who knows if we end up in other similar situation, for example if Nika makes Vanessa angry who know what can happen, or maybe if Nika starts dating Zara or Bella and he ends up cheating on them... Maybe some type of revenge could exits, even if is just some thing like a false rumor spreading about Nika as a revenge or i don´t know, i think those things are humiliating too, would be better imo if humiliation appears in some sex scene, of course... But i don´t think that is in Ocean´s mind.

Anyway i think is really easy to satisfy those things, for example: Maja tied up Nika and she makes fun of him while she is putting a big dildo inside his... Okay, too much, but you know what i mean. In this situation Nika has agreed to do that and is just the "spice" in the moment that makes this humiliation thing appear. I don´t know, i doubt this is going to happen like i would like but i choose to believe in it for now :LOL:
 

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So how does it look like release wise ? I dont have time to skim through couple thousand of pages to get that info..
 

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Well, have been playing this one for the past few days, and yeah, it definitely is the best one I have ever played. Not really a problem regarding that there are no sex scenes, the story is entertaining and intriguing enough to carry the game. The graphics are the best ones I have seen in an AVN, by far, and the models are fantastic, some of them REALLY gorgeous.

No wonder Bella is insanely popular, she is quite the character (and hot obviously). Complex and interesting, the kind of girl that after you go through her initial barriers becomes a ride or die as long as you don't betray her trust. Definitely my favorite, but also surprised about Zara and how she rose in the last chapters, didn't expect her to be one of the main girls and get such focus, but a likeable one who also has her layers and would love to know more about. While I don't expect this game to be a harem one, would be great to know the rest of the characters in a deep level, even if as friends. MC is a bitch, but honestly, a lot of 18 year olds are. And his evolution is great, trying to escape his depression and opening up to the world, giving such an emotional aspect to the game that in my opinion is one of its catching aspects. Nami is great too, with a peculiar personality that makes her stand up. Lot of nice characters honestly (and models) like the mysterious Sasha, the "too nice that seems sketchy" Robin and bondage-loving Maja, among a bunch of other ones that I would take forever speaking about.

Interesting last chapter, opening the story with a lot more of intrigue and misteries that would love to get to know. But there goes kind of my problem with the game: it is 6 years old (or at least the thread is) and so far we only have Season 1 completed, with 5 chapters of what I read would be 32? This is what, a chapter per year? Will it even be finished, considering life has a way to get between? Or will this just be the ASOIAF of AVN's? Potential to be the greatest, but holy shit, it is too far away to see completition.

Anyway, I'm sure that what I have written isn't something that hasn't been discussed before considering this has 2373 pages by the time, but I needed to share (some) of my thoughts upon finalizing it.
 

Don Sucio

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Well, have been playing this one for the past few days, and yeah, it definitely is the best one I have ever played. Not really a problem regarding that there are no sex scenes, the story is entertaining and intriguing enough to carry the game. The graphics are the best ones I have seen in an AVN, by far, and the models are fantastic, some of them REALLY gorgeous.

No wonder Bella is insanely popular, she is quite the character (and hot obviously). Complex and interesting, the kind of girl that after you go through her initial barriers becomes a ride or die as long as you don't betray her trust. Definitely my favorite, but also surprised about Zara and how she rose in the last chapters, didn't expect her to be one of the main girls and get such focus, but a likeable one who also has her layers and would love to know more about. While I don't expect this game to be a harem one, would be great to know the rest of the characters in a deep level, even if as friends. MC is a bitch, but honestly, a lot of 18 year olds are. And his evolution is great, trying to escape his depression and opening up to the world, giving such an emotional aspect to the game that in my opinion is one of its catching aspects. Nami is great too, with a peculiar personality that makes her stand up. Lot of nice characters honestly (and models) like the mysterious Sasha, the "too nice that seems sketchy" Robin and bondage-loving Maja, among a bunch of other ones that I would take forever speaking about.

Interesting last chapter, opening the story with a lot more of intrigue and misteries that would love to get to know. But there goes kind of my problem with the game: it is 6 years old (or at least the thread is) and so far we only have Season 1 completed, with 5 chapters of what I read would be 32? This is what, a chapter per year? Will it even be finished, considering life has a way to get between? Or will this just be the ASOIAF of AVN's? Potential to be the greatest, but holy shit, it is too far away to see completition.

Anyway, I'm sure that what I have written isn't something that hasn't been discussed before considering this has 2373 pages by the time, but I needed to share (some) of my thoughts upon finalizing it.
Really happy to know you have enjoyed the game. About the seasons, chapters and releases... Well, there are people here who can tell you better about it, but this game if my mind doesn´t fail was developed by two people, one of them left and then the project was taken only by Ocean. He has been working alone all this time (i think he continues being alone) and the first season "suffered" a remake, or if i´m wrong and it wasn´t the whole season then there were several chapters affected, this things spend soooo many time.

Yes, i know what you are thinking, 6 YEARS FOR THAT??? Indeed, there have been others problems related with Patreon, Steam and other music rights and that stuff, and Ocean is very fussy with his work, is perfect or he doesn´t stop (not a bad thing for me).

We have too the renders he makes like specials gifts for special holidays and those things.

I have said all i remember about why the project is really slow, even the first chapter of the season 2 is going to be massive, around 6.000 renders (more or less). One chapter for year is the objetive i think, or at least, i hope so, is slow, but very good stuff (imo).

That´s all i can say, i´m pretty sure other people here is better informed but i wanted to contribute :)
 
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