VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Alex5280]

Getting the update times down to 3 months would probably lead to this release being like 3.2, 3.5. I doubt there wouldn't be content reduction.

Not every dev is the same. College King's dev puts out rapid updates where renders are not pretty, there are fractures in the story. Other devs like Ocean and DPC clearly are perfectionists and only release when they are happy with the end product.

Yes it's disheartening that we have to wait a long time for updates, but it's the dev's decision. It's his "art" and he clearly chooses quality > speed. And clearly he is satisfied with where the support is or he'd have thought of changing it up.

Yeah, CK really is a broken mess, but the dev puts out updates about every month. Current patron count is around 2400. So, probably making around $10,000 a month, at least. So, it seems quantity > quality when it comes to peoples wallets. I bet that is really frustrating to devs like Ocean that choose quality first. I think anything over 3 months is where devs are shooting themselves in the foot. Personally, when update times get beyond that I don't really remember what was happening in the previous update.

Edit: Just checked and CoBD is at nearly 2500 patrons and +$14,000. So, CK is at almost the same level as CoBD. So, yep quantity > quality money wise.

 

[CranberryJuice26]

Yeah, CK really is a broken mess, but the dev puts out updates about every month. Current patron count is around 2400. So, probably making around $10,000 a month, at least. So, it seems quantity > quality when it comes to peoples wallets. I bet that is really frustrating to devs like Ocean that choose quality first. I think anything over 3 months is where devs are shooting themselves in the foot. Personally, when update times get beyond that I don't really remember what was happening in the previous update.

I'll take all the quality I can get, but just like you said, the trend that seems to be pleasing people's wallets is quantity > quality, and I can understand that. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people just stop playing the game out of the lack of updates.

 

[CrazyRabbit]

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[funny_hunnie]

I hope I don't get the stupid idea to tell my grandchildren that I waited 5 years for vaginal sex in an erotic game

 

[Vitez]

Except one could make decent renders and release the game (as "beta") and then delegate the post-work and release it as "final" build. Imo every serious developer should do what they do the best and delegate the rest.

 

[Guiltyveek]

I'm in the same boat as you, not sure if I'll live long enough to see it completed. Even though I really like this game, I keep questioning if I should even bother continuing to play it.

No one says you have to watch every new season of a TV show or read every sequel

 

[McCummings]

A lot of signs point to Sasha being summer. Had an accident hence the scare and maybe some Amnesia. Her and Nami having 1 piece of the same earrings each and she wanted to ask Nami about it but got interrupted. the way she overstretched the MC could point out she recognizes him. Also, the Dev shifts the "camera" to her even when she is not relevant in the scene just to point out her facial expression when the MC does something. All hypothetical though.

I really hope Sasha isn't summer.

 

[NotTheReal16]

How do I transfer my old Summer's gone 3.4 save file on mac to the 3.5 new version? for some reason the old data is not automatically showing up on the new 3.5 version.

 

[Ayhsel]

So I posted this on Discord, I wanted to hear people's opinion. Big spoiler, though, about this update's best scene

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What do you guys think?

 

[plznoiamnotaweirdo]

Damn if this game is 20 chapter then it would be a disaster at this pacing. I mean i love the game, i do love a well told out story, but a realistic goal would be more appropriate. Some treats their work as a masterpiece, and i can respect that, but damn unlike art, game no matter how much you wanted does not last forever. They will have to be ported to latest tech, rework cause the technology are outdated so on so forth. Especially in a time where tech is rising so much, i highly doubted Ren'py will be a great platform in 20+ year. I love summer's gone don't get me wrong, i actually think Bella is the most interesting girl in this site. The MC and Bella relationship is something I would want to see the end of the journey. Still, at 20+ chap ? I guess in terms of content its possible(I still don't know what is the end goal of the project is, probably the MC at the end of college like DIK ? ). But with this pacing, realistically speaking its just not possible. I hope things will work out in the end

 

[Dragon59]

bella is a virgin cause she hates everyone

Whose that?
Some cocksman, supposed to be good for you.
I'm not gonna jump him...
Give him to Bella!
She won't jump him. She hates everyone!
She likes it! Hey Bella!

I really don't see why it matters, but having sex toys in no way means a girl is not a virgin. Also... women who are having sex regularly normally.... shave down there. Wow I did not see this thread coming in this direction lol

Though women who shave are more likely to be having sex fairly regularly, the opposite does not hold. There are many women who have sex regularly but do not shave. Around forty-three sex partners (+~20 for oral only) in 40 years, and the vast majority did not shave. Of course, I'm talking about women who were born in the 50s, 60s, and early 70s, who grew up in an era when shaving in porn was uncommon.

 

[jhustrue]

It still wouldn't really matter, SG is supposed to have 30 chapters based on what has been said already in this thread.
Currently half a chapter per update, 2 updates per year, we still have 26.5 chapters to go so at the rate of 1 update per 3 months [2 chapters per year, or double the current speed] we're still looking at at least 13 years before this is done.

But even if you get really optimistic and believe that suddenly the production speed becomes four times faster, we're still 7 years away from the final chapter

Half the people commenting in this thread are going to be dead before this gets finished, me included probably.

No way is that time estimate happening. He's going to either have to get a team and speed up production by a ton or he'll take so long to produce, the graphics will start to become outdated and he'll end up in remake hell.

 

[DonkeyFace]

So I posted this on Discord, I wanted to hear people's opinion. Big spoiler, though, about this update's best scene

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What do you guys think?

I just replayed the scene you are talking about twice, and I agree with you 100%. The music leading up to the video portion was a fantastic mood setter, It had and ambience and ethereal quality, that really complimented the scene's intended mood. And then the video starts, and it is a rather jarring and disjointed transition in atmosphere and mood. It would have been much better if the original song continued through the video and then faded into the 3rd track mentioned, as that one fades in with overlap. That would have been a smooth transition without disrupting the mood.

 

[Soundgfx]

Damn if this game is 20 chapter then it would be a disaster at this pacing. I mean i love the game, i do love a well told out story, but a realistic goal would be more appropriate. Some treats their work as a masterpiece, and i can respect that, but damn unlike art, game no matter how much you wanted does not last forever. They will have to be ported to latest tech, rework cause the technology are outdated so on so forth. Especially in a time where tech is rising so much, i highly doubted Ren'py will be a great platform in 20+ year. I love summer's gone don't get me wrong, i actually think Bella is the most interesting girl in this site. The MC and Bella relationship is something I would want to see the end of the journey. Still, at 20+ chap ? I guess in terms of content its possible(I still don't know what is the end goal of the project is, probably the MC at the end of college like DIK ? ). But with this pacing, realistically speaking its just not possible. I hope things will work out in the end

I don't think pacing is the right word here, you might be thinking of consistency in updates.


The pacing is actually good if ocean plans on doing the 20 chapters thing, he's taking time setting the stage for the characters to grow and develop but the time of arrivial of updates is inconsistent and makes the pacing of the story match the time it took to update in real time - slow as fuck.

Now whether ocean's reasons for that are justifiable or not, that's up to y'all but we can all agree that we want consistency in the updates but I feel like that's never going to happen considering he's working on two AVNs at the same time.

I don't think I can demand all this as someone who's not a paying supporter also I don't think this is a full time job for him - I need someone to confirm this or dispute it (?), majority of developers here are just dudes like us with spare time, making AVNs as a hobby.

 

[Talmadge]

Okay. Just gotta say. That's hilarious. At the gym scene. MC's asked "What do you like?" and you can chose "Spongebob Squarepants" to which the male coach says "..Can't argue with that." LoL. Love it!

 

[JeefZ]

The whole Basket ball thing sucked and took up way too much time and effort on the game and story!!! Stick to the story!!!!!

 

[CrazyRabbit]

So I posted this on Discord, I wanted to hear people's opinion. Big spoiler, though, about this update's best scene

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What do you guys think?

I just replayed the whole scene to check (and see that kiss again) ; I agree it feels out of place but I dunno how to explain it....
It feels somewhat right if you think of it as an "island of well being".

The scene before, Bella and MC realise that their "mission" was useless ; they just hurt a woman, for naught. Then the video launch ONLY if you agree with her that you make a good team.
It starts a feeling of well being, they found someone they, quite shockingly, feel good to be with. And even that failed mission was a good thing because they did it together.
That video and the music in it represent that new feeling.

EDIT : Feeling that gets cut short AFTER they kiss and realize what just happened. And all goes haywire because of conflicted feeling and their lack of skills needed to deal with that new situation.

So, ofc it's my way of seeing it and I completely understand if that makes no sense to someone else. But it's once again a fascinating thing to analyze in this awesome game.

 

[CranberryJuice26]

The whole Basket ball thing sucked and took up way too much time and effort on the game and story!!! Stick to the story!!!!!

The dev has already said that the basketball plot is a main storyline and not a side one, so you'll have to get invested on it for the future.

 

[JeefZ]

I just replayed the whole scene to check (and see that kiss again) ; I agree it feels out of place but I dunno how to explain it....
It feels somewhat right if you think of it as an "island of well being".

The scene before, Bella and MC realise that their "mission" was useless ; they just hurt a woman, for naught. Then the video launch ONLY if you agree with her that you make a good team.
It starts a feeling of well being, they found someone they, quite shockingly, feel good to be with. And even that failed mission was a good thing because they did it together.
That video and the music in it represent that new feeling.

EDIT : Feeling that gets cut short AFTER they kiss and realize what just happened. And all goes haywire because of conflicted feeling and their lack of skills needed to deal with that new situation.

So, ofc it's my way of seeing it and I completely understand if that makes no sense to someone else. But it's once again a fascinating thing to analyze in this awesome game.

Mc. was the expert at Intelligence but did't know what todo in the fancy resturant

 

[Damien8d]

The virginity of characters like Nia, Bella and Mila is completely irrelevant for the MC and therefore the story.
It only begins to become relevant if it has a great impact on her character or is a defining trait or if she lies to the MC.
Nami's virginity however is important because of her connection to the MC.
As long as MC isn't officiallly off the market than Nami will most likely stay that way.
And for all we know Mila could've lied to the MC because she thinks that the MC wouldn't believe her if she claimed to be a virgin (due to her household and background)
A redundant Fear btw because the MC wouldn't care.
Mila has trust issues and while she has a quite daring exterior it is also a way for her to find out the intentions of a potential partner.
MCs indifference towards that is a major plus for her as she seems to have bad experiences with advances from some guys.
She definitly wants to be a part of MCs life and could fear that if she says something, that he wouldn't likely believe, than she would loose all the trust that was built between the two of them. (I know farfetched but still possible)
Maybe she was assaulted by one of the guys who insulted her while the MC deffended her (at least the way I played it)
- which doesn't mean btw that she lost her virginity to one of those pricks or worse her father in a drunken state but maybe she felt tainted by the mere act of such an assault and therefore doesn't view herself as "clean" and therefore virgin anymore.
(debunked by drooopy) Nia too could still be a virgin if either Nami lied in the hopes of dissuading MC from taking interest in her or Nia never let her then boyfriend take her virginity and that was the reason why they broke up.
She was quite forward with the MC and maybe she was that way with her then boyfriend too but didn't want to cross that line.
While she was quite forward with the MC she felt quite anxious for the possibility that MC saw one of her shows.
(which could be a good indicator for my theory btw as she seems to be quite forward in public but conservative in private at least concerning such (in comparisson) mundane things like a male she knows seeing her naked (most likely not with her kinks))
Bella too could either be a virgin or not depending on her past which made her insane persona.
We're only going to become 100% sure if the act ever actually happens (which will take a looong time)
And even then it is no guarantee as girls could loose their hymen in other ways.
But again the MC just doesn't care!
For all we know Bellas reaction to their kiss could've been the last straw for MC to begin his life as a hermit and everything we're talking about becomes redundant!