Freki.g

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Ya, I'm with ya, I was wondering on my first playthrough if that was the case, too. In later chapters it's more clear they are blood siblings, but early on it's kinda iffy. :D



Ya, I've seen some devs who come on here and are outright aggressive toward members, which is never recommended in any sales field - nothing will cost you customers and sales more quickly than that. And I'm not defending the rude posters, because sometimes people on messageboards are just assholes, but when you, as a developer or really any company that's trying to sell a product come around and are rude to members, or lie, etc. that does not endear you to anybody.

My advice to any dev on F95 who wants to sell a product is this - be friendly to your community, answer questions in a friendly way - if people are rude, just disengage, don't take it too personally as chances are that member is just a dick and isn't worth the time - but otherwise, just be nice to people and the ones who have bought the product or who are actively a patron and giving you money, just express your appreciation to those people. When I see any company or individual making a product that I want more of and they seem to be a genuinely decent person trying to make a good product for people, I legitimately *want* to help them and that's when I go buy the game, etc. And with this game as an example, as long as it stays good and developer stays friendly toward people, etc., when it launches on Steam, I will go onto the messageboards for Steam and I'll buy a couple of people a copy of the game just to support the developer (I'm already donating via patreon myself). I have enjoyed this game so far and I want more of what I've experienced so far - happy to get my wallet out to further that objective. :D
I repeat, just ignore people of a certain type, but abandoning, in my opinion, does not pay.
 

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Yeah I agree. It is a necessary evil. In fact, this is where I come to try games and decide if I'm interested enough to support the developers on Patreon, that's what I did with SG, LoF and Chasing Sunsets, and I have no problems in doing them for more. I'm just not gonna be a hypocrite and trash talk games that I don't even support unless the dev is a world class asshole, which is very rarely the case.
It's the same case on manga reading sites that people always shit talk about an author and muttering about the slow release and call the author lazy, but it's so ironic how they complain so much even they are reading it on pirate sites for free!
 

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Pirates? Everyone helps everyone, so thanks to the pirates, those who finance the projects and those who follow them with constructive opinions (even if negative) and the intelligent developers know how to exploit all these people to their advantage.
The worst thing is indifference.
 
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Sure. I mentioned 30 chapters because @CranberryJuice26 said that Oceans making 30 chapters was irrealistic. Again, not trying to sound rude, but maybe you should have read the entire conversation before making a reply? Or at least read up to get a better understanding:giggle:
These 30 chapters are mentioned here not for the first time. You didn't start this topic, but you actively support it. From this, I concluded that you also care about when all 30 chapters will be written. At the same time, no one thinks that 30 chapters of 3000 images each are 90 thousand renderers. You'd better think about what Ocean can write about for so long in this story.
 
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Sure. I mentioned 30 chapters because CranberryJuice26 said that Oceans making 30 chapters was irrealistic. Again, not trying to sound rude, but maybe you should have read the entire conversation before making a reply? Or at least read up to get a better understanding:giggle:


kk to put it all bluntly, some commenters made rude jokes about Nyx(the developer)'s update period, despite her having visited the thread several times to talk with us(the fans) about her lengthening the update period due to her latest update being much heavier in content and renders. She, understandably, got annoyed that people were still complaining about the update period despite her having come to the thread directly to let us know what she was doing. On her patreon, she even had a poll between us(the patrons) to see whether or not we'd have liked her to keep the update period to 3 months or have her lengthen it for a heavier update. I think the end results were like 80%+ in favor of her lengthening the update period to bring out one big content-heavy update. She even posted the results from her patreon to F95, yet people were still showing up complaining about it... most of them not even being patrons! Anyway, so a commenter made a rude joke, she got annoyed, replied, he had a snarky reply back, then she said that she'd wait a few weeks before bringing the update here to F95, or something to that effect. Then another commenter came in and started attacking her, calling her childish and this and that, then more people joined in and started attacking her too... then she left. Then I came in and started attacking those guys:ROFLMAO:

But yeah... that's the story of how F95 members drove a developer out of F95

Edit: You won't find it now lol. It got so bad that a moderator had to come in to delete everything. Several pages worth of arguing were all deleted. I just wish that a moderator were there earlier to intervene when people started attacking her...
hey sis I was wondering who is your waifu for
w i a b


I'm asking because before the rework I had a few girls in mind but now I cant pick one any advice

if I remember correctly there was a girl in the game that was kind of mean but I like that
she kind of reminded me of bella

and no I refuse to date multiple girls so don't even ask

and then there was this other girl with black hair and the most amazing eyes you've ever seen
 

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I know this thread is peaceful now, but I'm just a little scared for the future. I don't want to leave, return, and Ocean's gone because someone didn't like a change he'd made in the AVN. And the majority of the time, that's exactly what happens here.
before i say what i say. I don't suggest attacking members of f95zone just keep it peaceful
And that's why other members like you and those who frequent this thread are important. We can nip all that in the butt when the negativity starts.
If someone attacks ocean we can just flood the thread with discussion and drown out the negativity. They start replying to you personally don't answer and move on. No fuel for the fire and the fire dies out for most trolls.

Anyone here who keeps being positive keep being you ❤
 
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It took me like 5 minutes considering whether or not I should even reply to this lol. So if I am getting this right, you're saying that no one cares about how long the AVN is going to be? No one cares about when these updates are going to come? No one cares about what could happen in the story? I... really don't understand where you're coming from. I'm fortunate enough to have a husband that's fluent in English, so I have no trouble learning... but I am hearing that Duolingo and Rosetta Stone are particularly popular these days. Perhaps you can use them? Because I really do not understand what you are trying to say...


This is exactly what I said before our comments got deleted lol. Most of the people complaining aren't even paying for the AVN. Nyx said something right before she left, and it's totally true. She said that people like the ones who were attacking her were the main reasons that developers always leave this site. And she's right. I've heard that DPC left F95 while he was developing AL due to how much toxicity he'd received, and he would not even let his patrons mention F95. It's crazy that the people making the most noise, are the ones that never plan on donating.

I know this thread is peaceful now, but I'm just a little scared for the future. I don't want to leave, return, and Ocean's gone because someone didn't like a change he'd made in the AVN. And the majority of the time, that's exactly what happens here.

I'm weird lol. My favorite LI from WIAB is Miru. I love her character because I've never seen one like her in any other AVN. Strong, confident, fierce, etc. She's one of a kind... at least until Ayua gets more development. Oh and I think you're talking about Katie. She's similar to Bella in some ways, but they're more different than most people realize. Katie's more likely to mess with people mentally than to confront them head on... unlike Bella. Leia is the woman with dark hair and beautiful eyes... I'm not interested in her. She's beautiful but rather manipulative and a bit controlling... but she also has good intentions for everyone. I am super curious how much Ocean has changed these characters in the rework. I find Miru and MC's relationship to be most interesting, and before the rework, Miru was by far the most interesting character. I'm curious as to how that has changed up to now, rework and all.
yes the second girl had long beautiful black hair with kind of gold green eyes and beautiful red lips

I need to pick a waifu before everybody picks all the good ones


wait wait sis when you say your favorite girl was Miru please tell me you mean the new one
and not nooooooooo

you are my sister and I love you but wtffff
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Still there are many mysteries in the story and characters with unknown personalities.
Now I have more curiosity about how he will implement this character, I like conflicts and i can already see something in this ...
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the only conflict in there is how they will fight to outplay each other in showing how much they love each other!

oh my God yes brother she made me feel so alive.with every insult How did you know
OK son now have a beer get to the table and lets have a very serious conversation!
i know i was not present much and your mother is a bit of a psycho
that`s why i was not that present she had skills with a freaking knife...
but your fixation with abusive women is starting to worry me seriously!

what can i say? if you wish to keep a wife you need a stronger backbone and a strong pimp hand
if you let your woman walk all over you she will loose her respect for you if she ever had any to begin with
and then you will wonder why your 6 kids look nothing like you so snap out of it and be a man
put that bitch Bella of yours on her place which should be on her knees sucking you off

heed my advice and stop being a pussy around women they will feel pleasure in the short term and frustration in the long term so if you want to have a happy life in the long run you need to drop the short term pleasure and start investing on the things that will make her happy on the long run even if its frustrating for her in the short term... and that thing is to actually tell her NO! NO NOT, NOT AND FUCKING NO, NOW SHUT the FUCK UP AND GET YOUR BEAUTIFUL ASS IN THE kitchen TO MAKE ME THOSE WONDERFULL SANDWICHES THAT ONLY YOU CAN MAKE, MY bitch!

abusive I think you mean fire and passion

and I don't know what you mean my kids look just like me I mean look at little Isabella

what you're you're acting like you you never seen a baby with pinkeye before and fangs

her front teeth are growing crooked that's all

ouch ouch Isabella

oh isn't that cute she's trying to bash Daddy's head in with her baby rattle

she's getting more and more like her mother every day

I'm sorry I'm teary-eyed with happiness
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well now that I look at it there's only one explanation I must be half vampire or I carry the gene for it because that's the only way something like this could happen
yes because you have clearly not be cucked by Ayhsel ffs this is exactly what i am talking about she picked a limp dick from a dead body over you!
 
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Because I really do not understand what you are trying to say...
I just want to say that 30 chapters is a huge amount of content. If each chapter contains about 30,000 words, then there will be 900,000 in 30 chapters. For example the entire Harry Potter series – 1,084,170 words, Lord of the Rings series (including The Hobbit) – 576,459 words. Do you seriously think that Ocean has conceived such a huge plot and already knows exactly how many chapters there will be in his novel? Then why are you trying to calculate when these mythical chapters will be written and drawn? After all, there may be not 30, but 20 or 15.
 
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the only conflict in there is how they will fight to outplay each other in showing how much they love each other!


OK son now have a beer get to the table and lets have a very serious conversation!
i know i was not present much and your mother is a bit of a psycho
that`s why i was not that present she had skills with a freaking knife...
but your fixation with abusive women is starting to worry me seriously!

what can i say? if you wish to keep a wife you need a stronger backbone and a strong pimp hand
if you let your woman walk all over you she will loose her respect for you if she ever had any to begin with
and then you will wonder why your 6 kids look nothing like you so snap out of it and be a man
put that bitch Bella of yours on her place which should be on her knees sucking you off

heed my advice and stop being a pussy around women they will feel pleasure in the short term and frustration in the long term so if you want to have a happy life in the long run you need to drop the short term pleasure and start investing on the things that will make her happy on the long run even if its frustrating for her in the short term... and that thing is to actually tell her NO! NO NOT, NOT AND FUCKING NO, NOW SHUT the FUCK UP AND GET YOUR BEAUTIFUL ASS IN THE kitchen TO MAKE ME THOSE WONDERFULL SANDWICHES THAT ONLY YOU CAN MAKE, MY bitch!
abusive I think you mean fire and passion

and I don't know what you mean my kids look just like me I mean look at little Isabella

what you're you're acting like you you never seen a baby with pinkeye before and fangs

her front teeth are growing crooked that's all

ouch ouch Isabella

oh isn't that cute she's trying to bash Daddy's head in with her baby rattle

she's getting more and more like her mother every day

I'm sorry I'm teary-eyed with happiness
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well now that I look at it there's only one explanation I must be half vampire or I carry the gene for it because that's the only way something like this could happen
 
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Freki.g

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I just want to say that 30 chapters is a huge amount of content. If each chapter contains about 30,000 words, then there will be 900,000 in 30 chapters. For example the entire Harry Potter series – 1,084,170 words, Lord of the Rings series (including The Hobbit) – 576,459 words. Do you seriously think that Ocean has conceived such a huge plot and already knows exactly how many chapters there will be in his novel? Then why are you trying to calculate when these mythical chapters will be written and drawn? After all, there may be not 30, but 20 or 15.
It may even be that he as already built such a big plot for long time, I don't think it's easy to improvise during development such a VN, at the limit it could modify, remove or add something, but completely improvising seems to me to be impossible.
Furthermore, I think it is also possible that it will take even more than 900,000 words given the considerable amount of characters involved in multiple stories entrusted to the player's choices.
We'll see ...
 
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I just want to say that 30 chapters is a huge amount of content. If each chapter contains about 30,000 words, then there will be 900,000 in 30 chapters. For example the entire Harry Potter series – 1,084,170 words, Lord of the Rings series (including The Hobbit) – 576,459 words. Do you seriously think that Ocean has conceived such a huge plot and already knows exactly how many chapters there will be in his novel? Then why are you trying to calculate when these mythical chapters will be written and drawn? After all, there may be not 30, but 20 or 15.
30 chapters for SG (and WIAB) is a information from faq channel of Oceans's discord. To be exactly, he says "around 30 chapters" there. So, it's normal people (me included) make estimates based on 30 chapters because that's the information we have now, today. We don't have any information about how much words this chapters will have, so we can not make any estimate about that.Yeah, things can change and Ocean can manage the story to be finished on 20 or 15 chapers (or in 35 chapters, who knows), but for now the information is 30 chapters.
 
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