Yeah, I saw him here a few days ago. I hope he isn't here that often anymore because he's busy rendering.
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I haven't played a lot of these games, finished my 7th one just a few days ago(Leap of Faith).
But there is something about Summer's Gone that stands out to me. I really enjoy the slow burn, since characters get developed well like this. I got introduced to this genre by a friend who knew I liked good stories in games, and lets face it, stories in modern gaming are a pile of dog poop(1 good narrative in a game in 3-4 years is an abysmal state of gaming).
And I was recommended Acting Lessons. At first I was skeptical, but I ended up enjoying it and than started looking for games like it. That lead me to Summer's Gone and I think from the WIP games I played so far, it's my favorite. DIK is a more hilarious experience, but SG just has something I really enjoy in it, can't really explain it.
But there is something about Summer's Gone that stands out to me. I really enjoy the slow burn, since characters get developed well like this. I got introduced to this genre by a friend who knew I liked good stories in games, and lets face it, stories in modern gaming are a pile of dog poop(1 good narrative in a game in 3-4 years is an abysmal state of gaming).
And I was recommended Acting Lessons. At first I was skeptical, but I ended up enjoying it and than started looking for games like it. That lead me to Summer's Gone and I think from the WIP games I played so far, it's my favorite. DIK is a more hilarious experience, but SG just has something I really enjoy in it, can't really explain it.
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I could not care less about the if or if not, it dosent matter for me in the farthest way but I refuse to run around with closed eyes and ignore the obvious only out of blind cadaver obedience.
Officially, the two are not related, which is ok for me and not a problem at all, but that is not the case out of total overconfidence, but simply because of the ToS of patreon. And anyone who says otherwise is just ignorant or was not long enough on the train to know the game from the beginning.
WTF?! Hatred? I admit, my postings have more than less a good portion of biting sarcasm - but that was it. The only "hatred" here is coming from your direction - why ever...
How less you know dude, how less you know...
Beside the fact that he has returned and was active awsering some questions in the last days, I was never bad mouthing about him here or attacked him in our private DMs.
So rude man, get a live
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I ain't going to let it go even though this informative post is explicitly pertinent to this VN and the potential enhancement of other user's experiences will likely get deleted instead of the many dumpster fire posts that remain in here...
SanchoMod Go get you some.
Good evening. Just another shameless plug since the mod is still not listed in the OP after 7 months. More features and higher polish than you'll get with any other product... imo of course.
Regards and be well.
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Doesn't MC talk to someone about how they don't know how Cheeto ended up being a Cheeto? At the very least, the two of them certainly think they are 100% blood related. Whether they actually are or not might be a future development.
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Well it's a kind of a different experience since there is no sex scene in like, 4 years of development? I dunno, but in my case I'd say it's the MC, since he is not just another horny teenager who wants to bang with anything with a vagina in it and he tends to call them out when he's pissed.
And the slow burn, I tend to skip sex scenes in a lot of games to follow the plot but I think this will may be one of the few out there that will make satisfactory scenes.
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It's MC when Zara asked him why Nami is red. This is one of the ambiguous things about their relationship, at least to me. I can find other explanation of why MC himself constantly asking Nami why she is red, it may just be their own inside joke, incomprehensible to others. Perhaps, in the past, Nami annoyed him by asking something like "Why are you so lazy?". And MC did not find a better response at that moment than to come up with a stupid "Why are you so red?"
But why then Zara asked the same? What is surprising to a stranger that someone's roommate has red hair? Why does Noji always go mad and snap at them when she suspects any intimacy between the two of them? I can't explain it for myself outside of the context of MC and Nami being related.
And yes, I heard that the dev mentioned that there is no such thing as your sister in both games (WIAB and SG), so I'm curious if these ambiguities were intentional and there's some plot twist behind it, or if they're just uncleaned leftovers from a previous version of the game.
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Well Ocean says on discord all the time that there is no sister.
I can just quote yesterday: "And of course, there's no sis in the game, that would be agaisnt Patreon ToS".
I don't read EVERYTHING on discord, but even then I find that statement 2 or 3 times a week. And I don't really see why statements on discord would make problems for Patreon. Or he could just stay silent and say nothing about that stuff at all.
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The other thing that to me implicates that they are blood related is where Nami talks about how she watches "special" porn, then the MC says, they just use the "special" label of that type of porn to get around the law. This part of the conversation turns awkward and is basically about inferring that those two would have sex, the "special" type of porn she's been watching infers that it is similar to the type of situation Nami and MC have. It wouldn't make sense it was against the law to make that kind of porn if they're not blood related and it wasn't real actual blood relatives having sex, since having sex with a "roomate" or a sister like figure you grew up with but aren't actually related to wouldn't get porn studios into trouble with the law for making such porn scenarios.
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Yes see my comment above. it appears Ocean was going for giving the sense to the reader that they are related without actually being related to avoid the Patreon rules based on some things in the game that have been pointed out but perhaps Ocean doesn't like to talk about it when asked in discord? Dunno why.
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Because if a complaint is made to Patreon about content in breach of their ToS, statements by the devs on other platforms like discord, SubscribeStar, even f95 could be used as evidence.
So if some dev is circumventing incest restrictions via maintaining a patch, it's in their best interests to completely dissociate themselves from it, and outright deny any claims that they are producing said patch. The 'evil modder' exists to provide plausible deniability if Patreon starts asking questions.
People who follow these games closely know who's making the patch. The first rule of incest content production is don't talk about incest content production.
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Ok, I find it a bit hard to believe that companies like Patreon are investigating better/more throughly than german offices - else there would be no one able to cheat on taxes - but, I take your word for it. Talking about priorities in western countries...
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Oh, they do on occasion. That's why some games have had ti undergo sudden plot changes years into development. Fetish Locator was the most recent that comes to mind.
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Same here, I mostly skip through them, just glance at the text.
But a few good VN's do manage to make the lewd scene's part of the story/character development. Showcasing insecurities and so on. As for SG, WiaB shows that he can create really good animated scenes, but in SG's case, I really do enjoy the slow burn.
Overall, really enjoying it so far.
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I also saw that yesterday, the spicy part of the post was not the thing about the sis but the part that points to the ToS from patreon.
Yes, Patreon is likely to use evidence like F95 or dicord. I, for myself have reported some creators on patreon for stuff that was here published - pretty sick shit, with kids(!) who clearly weren't even close to the age that could be called pupertary.
The depicted characterswere officially all 18+ (talking about refuse to see the the obvious...) but there was a "build in" possibility to play the game "as intended". The patreon was removed shortly after that and here too.
If you report someone on patreon you have to click through a couple of questions and put afterwards a evidence in:
From this point of view I can fully understand that a dev, with his income depends on patreon, is extremely carefull about confirming things that can ruin your life.
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Feels like part of this thread might get purged for OT soon but anyway.I also saw that yesterday, the spicy part of the post was not the thing about the sis but the part that points to the ToS from patreon.
Yes, Patreon is likely to use evidence like F95 or dicord. I, for myself have reported some creators on patreon for stuff that was here published - pretty sick shit, with kids(!) who clearly weren't even close to the age that could be called pupertary.
The depicted characterswere officially all 18+ (talking about refuse to see the the obvious...) but there was a "build in" possibility to play the game "as intended". The patreon was removed shortly after that and here too.
If you report someone on patreon you have to click through a couple of questions and put afterwards a evidence in:
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From this point of view I can fully understand that a dev, with his income depends on patreon, is extremely carefull about confirming things that can ruin your life.
I understand your report in this particular case but also recognize that this "something outside of patreon" option sets a dangerous precedent. Patreon shouldn't care what you do outside of Patreon as long as it isn't directly connected to your work. Perfectly meshes with social media cancel culture which I despise.
- Oct 22, 2017
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I know exactly what you mean and how you feel about this, but this was not my point. I wanted just to point out how dangerous - for exact this reasons - it can be to do as you like when your fate depends one on certain thing. This complete "snitching/chancel culture" and the connected supression of unlikely opinions dosen't make it easier to be free minded.
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This just became the third game I replayed after Demon Boy and Being a Dik.
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Patreon doesn't really have to "investigate" anything, all that has to happen is that someone reports the person. They just sit back and wait for someone to make a complaint, look at it, and make a decision. Because credit card companies are cracking down on those types of things, Patreon has to so that they can continue to accept credit cards.