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Turret

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Yeah I know some do that, but I don't think it's the case this time, however as you said yourself, this is kinda a dangerous path Ocean is taking, because he can end up making these characters show up here who has relations to the others in WIAB, which would make us feel like the choices we make doesn't mean squat in WIAB.. Like if she indeed is Miru's and Will's but in your case you dumped her, then how the fuck did she get born?? :)
I think you see this topic too severe, no offence meant. Naturally the developer of any game with decisions, which mean something, has a "canon" storyline he incorporates into said game. But this does not invalidate the choices you made in your "own canon" playthrough. Both are equally valid, they are just akin to parallel universes. :)
 
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Can someone explain the relationship between the MC and Nami/Nojiko? I'm barely touching the surface of the story, but their familiarity with one another is bothering me every time I read their conversations. Please help.
 

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Can someone explain the relationship between the MC and Nami/Nojiko? I'm barely touching the surface of the story, but their familiarity with one another is bothering me every time I read their conversations. Please help.
Three different people that are supposed to be a cliché "son, sister and divorced mom" as implemented by many AVNs. Nojiko adopted both MC & Nami, and they live happily ever after as a family. My take for this decision is the fact that Ocean doesn't want to get into any trouble as laws in Germany are ridiculous.
 
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Three different people. Nojiko adopted both MC & Nami, and they live happily ever after as a family. My take for this decision is the fact that Ocean doesn't want to get into any trouble as laws in Germany are ridiculous.
Thank you. I somewhat figured Nojiko was the mother of the two, or at least, an older sibling (who is motherly in nature), but Nojiko looks extremely young, so I went the adopted siblings route for the three.
 

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Three different people that are supposed to be a cliché "son, sister and divorced mom" as implemented by many AVNs. Nojiko adopted both MC & Nami, and they live happily ever after as a family. My take for this decision is the fact that Ocean doesn't want to get into any trouble as laws in Germany are ridiculous.
It is less the German laws making a problem, it is bigotted Patreon he does not want a conflict with that is the big problem! Patreon is the reason of the flood of games with adoption, landlord, roommates and other laughable circumvention in it.
In Germany only full incestual vaginal intercourse in forbidden. For instance, if your daughter is old enough and it is consensual, you giving her a thorough muff dive is no legal offence. Our your Mom sucking your nuts dry, no problem if age and consent are ok.
So German laws are not the problem, even full intercourse as long as it is in a fictional game/book/movie.
But Patreon is trying to outpuritan the puritans and they call themselves patrons of the arts! What a load of... What kind of patron are you, if you forbid whole areas of inspiration, sexual stuff is just one of those Patron pushes down?
 

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It is less the German laws making a problem, it is bigotted Patreon he does not want a conflict with that is the big problem! Patreon is the reason of the flood of games with adoption, landlord, roommates and other laughable circumvention in it.
In Germany only full incestual vaginal intercourse in forbidden. For instance, if your daughter is old enough and it is consensual, you giving her a thorough muff dive is no legal offence. Our your Mom sucking your nuts dry, no problem if age and consent are ok.
So German laws are not the problem, even full intercourse as long as it is in a fictional game/book/movie.
But Patreon is trying to outpuritan the puritans and they call themselves patrons of the arts! What a load of... What kind of patron are you, if you forbid whole areas of inspiration, sexual stuff is just one of those Patron pushes down?
Yeah, everything you said about Patreon is without a doubt true but there are many other titles on Patreon which have to go through same pain inducing no incest rules and go for the landlady & adopted route yet they all look related in terms of appearance. The only thing that makes the whole shit no incest is the fact that the MC calls mom "landlady", and sis "roommate". Ocean on the other hand has gone off road and went complete adoption path.
 

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The only thing that makes the whole shit no incest is the fact that the MC calls mom "landlady", and sis "roommate". Ocean on the other hand has gone off road and went complete adoption path.
I think that has to do with plot reasons. I do not know if you play "Where it all began", there Ocean keeps the "roommates" and "landladies" and it has more crime and mystery story elements than SG has currently. But that might change at least a bit, I estimate. There is something fishy about the whole backstory in "Summer´s gone" and even the MC recognises this. And that Nami and MC are in reality bloodrelated is clear by the many questions why Nami is a redhead. Were they truly adopted, this would be a non-topic.
 

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There is something fishy about the whole backstory in "Summer´s gone" and even the MC recognises this. And that Nami and MC are in reality bloodrelated is clear by the many questions why Nami is a redhead. Were they truly adopted, this would be a non-topic.
My guess? They really are siblings, and their parents are going to appear at some point in WIAB, maybe in a flashback. I thought maybe William and Leah from WIAB could be their parents but I think they are more related with Zara's sister.
And, correct if am wrong, but weren't they not blood related before the remake? Maybe it's just my mind but I remember they were from different family's and Noji used to have waifu potential.
 

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My guess? They really are siblings, and their parents are going to appear at some point in WIAB, maybe in a flashback. I thought maybe William and Leah from WIAB could be their parents but I think they are more related with Zara's sister.
And, correct if am wrong, but weren't they not blood related before the remake? Maybe it's just my mind but I remember they were from different family's and Noji used to have waifu potential.
I am convinced that they are really siblings, this whole change to adopted is simply because of Patreon(mainly) and plot reasons(secondly). I think so as well that we will see their parents and I am really curious who they are. At the start I too thought it might be Willi and Leia, but with what we currently know it does not fit.
They would not let their kids be raised by others and we know by circumstantial stuff they are alive. Ayua mentioned her parents and one of the coaches talked about meeting with "Miss Zane". Katie might be the head designer in the city, but she does not seem to be interested in running a Sports club, same for Helen. By elimination the Miss Zane she meets must be Leia.

As for kids from WIAB, my personal perferance would be
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I am convinced that they are really siblings, this whole change to adopted is simply because of Patreon(mainly) -snip-

As for kids from WIAB, my personal perferance would be
I wager you're dead-on about Patreon, their relationship is very clearly sibling in nature, and it really shouldn't bother Nojiko if they didn't share a blood relationship. Given MC's trauma, Noji should be rather thrilled about the situation, if it's bringing him back around.

Y'know, unless she's his sister.

As for the kids situation I still expect Katie is on the list for a rounded belly as well. She certainly will be in my playthrough.
 

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I wager you're dead-on about Patreon, their relationship is very clearly sibling in nature, and it really shouldn't bother Nojiko if they didn't share a blood relationship. Given MC's trauma, Noji should be rather thrilled about the situation, if it's bringing him back around.
Y'know, unless she's his sister.
Exactly! See it the same.

As for the kids situation I still expect Katie is on the list for a rounded belly as well. She certainly will be in my playthrough
Everyone as he/she likes! :) My list on this would be as follows:
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I posted this back June 2021:

https://f95zone.to/threads/summers-gone-ch-4-full-oceanlab.29981/post-5974359

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Nojiko being Asian was always intended to be Adopted Mother that they called Mom but even that is barred from Patr:poop::poop:on

Nami is the sister, as intended. I just hope Ocean makes his own iPatch or helps with whomever does make it.
Hi! Thanks for refreshing our memories. :) And I definitely share your opinion of Patreon.
As far as patches are concerned, the WIAB and SG patches are normally popping up nearly at the same time as the updates do.;)
 

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does the subscribestar version not come with cest already integrated?
I would like it to...
But I am not certain as I do not currently sub

I have other devs on my monthly and Ocean has been slow in the past. I am open to change but at this time, no I am not a sub.
I am on SS for Ocean, and I am fairly sure that there is no diffrence between the version on SS and Patreon. Ok, releasing two diffrent versions would make no sense and just multily the mainentance work, is would be just a additional error source. Even on discord is told that they don't know something about a patch.

Despite the clear behaviour from MC and Nami, fucking hell even between Maja and Victoria that points to a blood relation - there a dudes like KhamulTG81 that are bad mouthing on discord about here for this clear indicators.
 

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I am on SS for Ocean, and I am fairly sure that there is no diffrence between the version on SS and Patreon. Ok, releasing two diffrent versions would make no sense and just multily the mainentance work, is would be just a additional error source. Even on discord is told that they don't know something about a patch.

Despite the clear behaviour from MC and Nami, fucking hell even between Maja and Victoria that points to a blood relation - there a dudes like KhamulTG81 that are bad mouthing on discord about here for this clear indicators.
well there are games like long live the princess and a family venture in which they have a censored version for patreon and an uncensored version for subscribestar, it doesn't make much sense to have your game on subscribestar if the version is not going to be different but that's just my opinion
 
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there a dudes like @KhamulTG81 that are bad mouthing on discord about here for this clear indicators.
That guy must be a troll a few days ago he was denying the nature of the relationships even more so when it's very clear and no matter how many arguments they gave him the guy kept saying no, "that it was false", don't pay any attention to him
 
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