VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[johnsman]

I absolutely agree that this is only part of her appeal but you have to agree that "forcing her" onto the MC gave her the chance to get way more of her story out compared to other LIs. I mean you have to hang out with her multiple times even if you aren't on her path whatsoever. It's very different for the others.
Zara and Sasha keep growing on the players but I think Zara had her personality altered a bit. She was always the more agreeable of the two sisters but I remember her being a lot more standoffish than she is in CH 4.5/5.
Sasha was always a fan favourite, or a favourite of many at least, even back when she hadn't said a single word and was just in the background staring into Nikas soul.


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I do agree that out of all the LIs, so far she's played the most important role in the main story, which has given her most of the screentime. But my point was that her character archetype is the most popular and attractive out of any LI and even if we switch the amount of screentime she got with characters like mila or vic, she would still be more popular than them. If we switched it with Zara or Sasha, now that would be interesting, as they somewhat fall into the same trope of ,,from hating to loving."

As for Zara, I don't think she had her personality altered. It's just that Nika has gotten to know her better and she now has some respect and affection for him and is acting much more free and comfortable around him.

 

[Lurcher1]

As for Zara, I don't think she had her personality altered. It's just that Nika has gotten to know her better and she now has some respect and affection for him and is acting much more free and comfortable around him.

Yeah, she's definitely giving off "OMG OMG OMG! a big brother!" vibes. She's very playful with Nika and, considering her wicked witch of a sister, she's definitely grabbing onto Nika as a much more fun step-sibling. Especially if he believed in her...

 

[DirtyMario]

YOU choose interpret Nojiko as a well-paid specialist living in a dirt-poor house, either because you haven't read the dialogues, don't understand the dialogues, or can't get past your own biases/expectations (salary $200K, house value $50k).

Can you point me to where I can buy this house? I would be greatful. The mice could do a twerk contest on the floor in every room, for that price I don't give a shit.

 

[John972]

Actually, I have nothing to do with medicine; anyone can go to the site and see the salary. When you grow up and start earning and living on your own, then you will see the difference. You didn't like my words and started arguing. I'm not interested in the controversy, I'm just pointing out some plot holes.

Ok, I have been gracious enough to reply to you repeatedly with quotations from game dialogues to repute the points you're trying to make.

Kindly extend me the same courtesy by taking the time to post scenes/dialogue quotes from the game to back up your $200k specialists salary and $50k house arguments. Otherwise, you're just expressing your interpretations/opinions... PS - I already know you cannot back up your arguments in such a way.

Where I live, the average annual salary for a doctor is is around US$97k. The average house price is around US$532k.

It's not about "not liking" your words and "arguing", it's about making you own your words by getting you to back them up with evidence rather than your personal opinion.

 

[RNasc4444]

Am I the only one who thinks Sasha is overhyped? We have almost no information about her. Many people feel a sense of loyalty to her because she's Ocean's favorite girl. Will Ocean show favoritism to Sasha in the upcoming chapters? Is such a thing possible?

People like what they like. You can't always find logic or reason in it. Take my avatar for example. She is my favorite character in a game where she only shows up for a couple dozen renders. Can't even be considered a side character due to how little screen time she has. That doesn't stop me from liking her FAR BETTER than any other character in that game.

As for SG, I've seen enough of Mila, Vic, Zara, Nadia, Vanessa, Nia, Sonya, Amber, Miriam, Kate, The Teachers and The Cougars to absolutely discard them. But others such as Ayua, Nora, Nancy, Layla, Claire, Robin, Maja and Sasha still remain in my interest list.

 

[yossa999]

Bella fan here. And I agree a little differently. Not too much Bella, but not enough focus on the other characters - the game focuses on Bella and Nami, as if they were the only Main Girls. Although Ocean seemed to say that “everyone is equal and there is no MGs/SGs system.” I would like to see more attention to Zara (really, the most successful girl of the new characters), Nia, Ayua. Game needs some balance.
I don’t know how much attention Victoria received after the remaster, for me she’s not interesting and I cut off her route from the very beginning... Although she continues to appear and appear.
There is an option to make the updates really big in order to pay attention to all the stories, but then hello 5000+ renders/per update and more than a year of waiting... It’s not clear how to find the optimal way out of this situation, but Ocean continues to add more and more new characters, for example, hungry bookwarm milfs in last update, I don’t even know why they are needed.
And definitely, with so many characters, Summer's Gone needs a BIOS with descriptions of all the characters and interactions with them... because by the end of the game I will be very old with dementia and just forget all the decisions I made.

Vic will shine in the second season as I get. As for horny cougars... They are there primarily for the story. By eavesdropping on their conversations, MC gets information about the balance of power in the city's high society, and also learns a lot about the people he thought he knew well. For example, just by chatting with Kelly, he finds out that Nojiko and Amber knew each other long before he began therapy with Amber. So why the hell were they acting out in front of him as if they didn’t know each other?

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Vic will shine in the second season as I get. As for horny cougars... They are there primarily for the story. By eavesdropping on their conversations, MC gets information about the balance of power in the city's high society, and also learns a lot about the people he thought he knew well. For example, just by chatting with Kelly, he finds out that Nojiko and Amber knew each other long before he began therapy with Amber. So why the hell were they acting out in front of him as if they didn’t know each other?

Might just be a plot hole. By the way, it’s not the only one in the game. I don’t understand why their family is considered poor if Nojiko works as a doctor?

 

[Lurcher1]

Might just be a plot hole. By the way, it’s not the only one in the game. I don’t understand why their family is considered poor if Nojiko works as a doctor?

I mentioned it earlier, but I don't think she's as poor as Nika and Nami realise. She has some reason to bring them up without the trappings of wealth and status and hides her salary/inheritance/ability

 

[Acsuka]

During the cabin therapy session, Amber puts MC into a trance, role-playing Summer, and allowing MC to release... unreacted emotions. Sex therapy.

Amber is indeed a great therapy manager, but unfortunately she is not a wizard... After Kabin's failure, she informs all the girls that, unfortunately, even she has not been able to "fix" the emo impotent guy... The girls are looking for a new hero...

 

[Bombmaster]

Geralt From Rivia
The author is not going to assume his favorite but we could guess Bella the poster girl.

Yeah, she's definitely giving off "OMG OMG OMG! a big brother!" vibes. She's very playful with Nika and, considering her wicked witch of a sister, she's definitely grabbing onto Nika as a much more fun step-sibling. Especially if he believed in her...

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[yossa999]

Might just be a plot hole. By the way, it’s not the only one in the game. I don’t understand why their family is considered poor if Nojiko works as a doctor?

Read John972 at last few pages of this thread, he's arguing all the day about this topic
Nothing is clear about Nojiko at all; she seems so casual and open, but it turns out that she is familiar with half of the city’s high society. Ocean continues to throw fragments of the big picture without explaining what they mean and giggling.

 

[sorco2003]

Geralt From Rivia
The author is not going to assume his favorite but we could guess Bella the poster girl.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but Ocean does say who his favorites are.

 

[Bombmaster]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but Ocean does say who his favorites are.

Ah yes some less developed character But took that as a grain of salt.

 

[DirtyMario]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but Ocean does say who his favorites are.

He does, and it's actually not Bella, even if she's the absolute poster child for the game.

 

[sorco2003]

Might just be a plot hole. By the way, it’s not the only one in the game. I don’t understand why their family is considered poor if Nojiko works as a doctor?

Is it possible to talk about a plot hole when we do not know the whole story?

 

[yossa999]

Amber is indeed a great therapy manager, but unfortunately she is not a wizard... After Kabin's failure, she informs all the girls that, unfortunately, even she has not been able to "fix" the emo impotent guy... The girls are looking for a new hero...

Yep, welcome to the WMV

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I mentioned it earlier, but I don't think she's as poor as Nika and Nami realise. She has some reason to bring them up without the trappings of wealth and status and hides her salary/inheritance/ability

Sorry, I only read the thread occasionally.
This may be the case. The house they live in is old, but it cannot be called a place for beggars. A large house that can easily accommodate several more people. Not some kind of drywall hut or trailer, which is how the poorest categories of the population live. Bella mentioned that the area they live in is poor, but in her understanding of poverty...Probably people who have less than $1M per year. Well, Bella also loves to throw at the fan to troll people.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

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The author is not going to assume his favorite but we could guess Bella the poster girl.

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What we can definitely say about Ocean is that he loves blondes.

Is it possible to talk about a plot hole when we do not know the whole story?

We can, or we try to explain them with a dozen theories. We should advise Dalli_x to try SG.

 

[DirtyMario]

Not some kind of drywall hut or trailer, which is how the poorest categories of the population most american citizens live.

 

[Bombmaster]

People taking Bella shit talking / out of touch view as gospel.

That take just make her less interesting and entitled.

Read John972 at last few pages of this thread, he's arguing all the day about this topic
Nothing is clear about Nojiko at all; she seems so casual and open, but it turns out that she is familiar with half of the city’s high society. Ocean continues to throw fragments of the big picture without explaining what they mean and giggling.