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Interesting,i have just played old SG and noticed old Robin and redhead with earning.Perhaps,Sasha was originally redhead,as Nami.
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PS:I don't think,that relation to Zanes or Revera/Petrova would be problem to have relationships with others,cause it's oficially not *real family*, but mafia family/clan.Patreon will be satisfied
It looks like the model for Sedilia from WiaB who had the wing earrings also. I'd say Ocean was just reusing available assets. Even dressed the same as Sedilia from memory. I'm not sure Ocean started doing anything with the background characters until he started the reworks - detailed models in the background start chewing up resources, better to use stock ones with low quality textures. (I actually wonder if he has low quality models made for all the main characters for when they're in the background to save resources?) At that point I think the only time we'd seen robing with wavy hair was the bookclub, it was straight up until then.
Regarding Sasha's hair colour, I do believe it was something else, and her friends dyeing their hair white shows it's part of their clique. It also says that Sasha doesn't do things by halves but goes all in (much like her comment to Ayua about never giving up at the basketball game). But given her aunt is a dark blonde, likely she was some sort of blond before dyeing/bleaching.
Relationally, if a member of the male first time is the likely candidate for a Revera, I'll leave them to Nami. And it's only a business conglomorate, the same way the stake holders come together to create any company, so yeah, ZPR is not a family, just a business. Interesting as we don't know what the business actually is: ZPR are the college's sponsor and have poured money into the college. We assume it's from Leia's suspect quasi legal empire. But ZPR was a thing before the college, as they'd have to be incorporated prior to being a sponsor. So what was ZPR incorporated for? What are the Z, P, and R common interests? What is their business model? To be a college sponsor they must have the appearance of legitimate money, or would you send your kids to a college funded by a pimp queen?
Other small indeciperable pictures I noticed:
Notice the person in the background - that haircut is only used for Desiree so far. Remember when Emilio asked her to do a background check on the boy? Well is that her in the background, checking out what Nika's getting up to? IN the scene she's watching stationary for the whole reporter incident, and walks away only at the end, unlike the other characters that come and go.
Nah, sorry. Being a Zane is not being related to ZPR, it's about being related to a Zane. You get a family name by being born into a family (or adoption yes, but being born into it is far far more common). Ayua would still be a Zane with Katie still her aunt even if the college was sponsored by just PR. Helen would be more likely to be running the college as a front for Leia to launder her pimp money. Helen would be in her late 60s I guess, but that's no problem for running as a board member/ceo or whatever. Although Ayua's parentage is not 100% confirmed, her family fighting technique (from back when in WiaB Miru was part of a niinja clan) that you could only be blood related to learn and Nika would have to marry her to learn it shows she's blood related to the Zane's, and has Miru's fighting/ninja skills (which we saw in Nika's bedroom).
We simply don't know what has happened before yet
William might have a connection to ZPR - in the original WiaB he was going to go undercover as a coach in the college (which I assume became ZPR) and the setup is already there in the remake for this to happen - Miru wants to go undercover to suss out the person making Katarina uncomfortable.
Ask yourself why you don't want Ayua to be Willi and Miru's daughter - is there a plausible reason why she isn't? The fact that Ayua's model is 'more' asiatic than Miru's is the only reason I can think of - but Ayua's design is older than Miru's current one, and is less asiatic than Miru's old design (thank god she looks better than old Miru). If that's the only reason, I'm going to go with Miru as the mum.
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Just take the Miru model next to it, put the Ri-Ri model and the Ayua model between them. And decide who she is more like.View attachment 3290513
It looks like the model for Sedilia from WiaB who had the wing earrings also. I'd say Ocean was just reusing available assets. Even dressed the same as Sedilia from memory. I'm not sure Ocean started doing anything with the background characters until he started the reworks - detailed models in the background start chewing up resources, better to use stock ones with low quality textures. (I actually wonder if he has low quality models made for all the main characters for when they're in the background to save resources?) At that point I think the only time we'd seen robing with wavy hair was the bookclub, it was straight up until then.
Regarding Sasha's hair colour, I do believe it was something else, and her friends dyeing their hair white shows it's part of their clique. It also says that Sasha doesn't do things by halves but goes all in (much like her comment to Ayua about never giving up at the basketball game). But given her aunt is a dark blonde, likely she was some sort of blond before dyeing/bleaching.
Relationally, if a member of the male first time is the likely candidate for a Revera, I'll leave them to Nami. And it's only a business conglomorate, the same way the stake holders come together to create any company, so yeah, ZPR is not a family, just a business. Interesting as we don't know what the business actually is: ZPR are the college's sponsor and have poured money into the college. We assume it's from Leia's suspect quasi legal empire. But ZPR was a thing before the college, as they'd have to be incorporated prior to being a sponsor. So what was ZPR incorporated for? What are the Z, P, and R common interests? What is their business model? To be a college sponsor they must have the appearance of legitimate money, or would you send your kids to a college funded by a pimp queen?
Other small indeciperable pictures I noticed:
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Notice the person in the background - that haircut is only used for Desiree so far. Remember when Emilio asked her to do a background check on the boy? Well is that her in the background, checking out what Nika's getting up to? IN the scene she's watching stationary for the whole reporter incident, and walks away only at the end, unlike the other characters that come and go.
Nah, sorry. Being a Zane is not being related to ZPR, it's about being related to a Zane. You get a family name by being born into a family (or adoption yes, but being born into it is far far more common). Ayua would still be a Zane with Katie still her aunt even if the college was sponsored by just PR. Helen would be more likely to be running the college as a front for Leia to launder her pimp money. Helen would be in her late 60s I guess, but that's no problem for running as a board member/ceo or whatever. Although Ayua's parentage is not 100% confirmed, her family fighting technique (from back when in WiaB Miru was part of a niinja clan) that you could only be blood related to learn and Nika would have to marry her to learn it shows she's blood related to the Zane's, and has Miru's fighting/ninja skills (which we saw in Nika's bedroom).
We simply don't know what has happened before yet
William might have a connection to ZPR - in the original WiaB he was going to go undercover as a coach in the college (which I assume became ZPR) and the setup is already there in the remake for this to happen - Miru wants to go undercover to suss out the person making Katarina uncomfortable.
Ask yourself why you don't want Ayua to be Willi and Miru's daughter - is there a plausible reason why she isn't? The fact that Ayua's model is 'more' asiatic than Miru's is the only reason I can think of - but Ayua's design is older than Miru's current one, and is less asiatic than Miru's old design (thank god she looks better than old Miru). If that's the only reason, I'm going to go with Miru as the mum.
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Bro, just the similarity of the models doesn't mean anything at all, otherwise Bella and Katie could be twins.
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Exactly. The circumstances and attitudes Ayua has match someone who is brought up by Miru, the lightweight drinker, the gym/fighting thing, it's simply the most logical solution other than a moderate resemblance. If we go by looks, does that mean Devika is the twins mother? I'd still say Gina is the most likely there because the plot keeps hinting at he boyfriend wanting to be cucked.
All guesses are what we prefer to believe at the moment, and Ocean will drop what has happened when it suits him, when it no longer needs to be a mystery.
All guesses are what we prefer to believe at the moment, and Ocean will drop what has happened when it suits him, when it no longer needs to be a mystery.
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It doesn't disappoint me, that was my point. Ocean reveals things when he decided they should no longer be a mystery. At the moment though, your assumptions regarding Sasha and Ayua are quite stretched. Sasha doesn't have Summer's complexion, birthmarks (on her face under her eye and the corner of her mouth), or freckles, and has very different eyebrows. Ayua knows things only Miru currently knows. You even claim that Leia is the sole Z involved in the college, therefore Ayua must be adopted by her. None of this is in the script. Maybe Ocean will go this direction of yours, and I'll eat my words, in the future, well congratulations.
But you're not convincing anyone with random statements and no actual proof from the game of what you're saying.
If you're going to the effort of talking conspiracies and what it all means, back it up with some effort. Currently you just feel things look a certain way to you, cool. They don't look that way to quite a few people, so it's up to you to back your statements up.
PS As a convenience for others, can you write your reply outside of the quote box? It makes it much easier to see what you're saying as opposed to what the other person's quote is.
But you're not convincing anyone with random statements and no actual proof from the game of what you're saying.
If you're going to the effort of talking conspiracies and what it all means, back it up with some effort. Currently you just feel things look a certain way to you, cool. They don't look that way to quite a few people, so it's up to you to back your statements up.
PS As a convenience for others, can you write your reply outside of the quote box? It makes it much easier to see what you're saying as opposed to what the other person's quote is.
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Ahh, the famous stolen script. Let me guess, you read it, but you won’t tell us, right?
And dude please replace [/ЦИТИРОВАТЬ] -> [/QUOTE] in your post, using different language breaks the quotation and makes it harder to read your posts or quote you.
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The ideal incestuous threesome for Vidal,
His first true love,and the most dominant love for whom he completely forgets everyone from before and since !!
For this sizzling love orgy he drops his code of being monogamous immediately..
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I wouldn't focus too much on moles or hair color. Cosmetics or hair dye can easily be misleading. So I wouldn't be too surprised if Summer is alive and Nika saw her, he just didn't recognize her.
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Summer is clearly Nika in a wig and he’s just trying to recover from a severe manic episode. While people who knew him growing up/loved ones are trying to help him recover and ease back into normal society.
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Oh I know, but if it's heavy foundation concealer etc, her face would melt during training/sports, and after the shower. And why would she conceal her birthmarks but not the scar? Easier for her to have had plastic surgery and lazer treatment... and it's starting to become way, way too complicated to explain render by render why she removed the birthmarks but kept her scar. If she needed to change appearance and go under a new identity, such as witness protection, they'd be moving her away from where people know her, where she can't accidentally break her cover. ANd her voice would be the same.
Also, Sasha's antagonism in the book club would imply she doesn't know him like Summer did. Until there's a good logical explantion of how and why, it's a theory without much basis.
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Kinda tricky to read "Zane" and remember it's not about me
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Oh,i didn't mean that Sasha=Summer. As far as I know, even Dev personally confirmed that this is not true. I meant that theoretically, if Summer is alive, then we could already see her, simply because of her hair color/lack of moles we didn't think much about it.
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That was what I thought as well - Ocean had squashed that theory, can't remember when or where I read that. Someone else was claiming it earlier, and I was just pointing out it makes no sense for someone to conceal birthmarks while leaving a scar unconcealed. If it's vanity, you'd hide all blemishes, if it was to create an alternate identity, you'd still be found out by your voice, habits, and the things that you share knowledge of by accident.
If Summer was in witness protection (as one random option) they wouldn't enroll her in a college with Nia, Nika and Nami. She wouldn't be hanging around the same city as Elsa either, too many ways for her identity to be discovered. If she's altered her appearance and makes a reappearance,, the big question I'd have is why wasn't she in touch with Elsa (who didn't try to avoid Nika but made sure it was him, so there's no conspiracy of her hiding things from Nika).
So yeah, not convinced. Maybe she's Desiree; after all she has the hair dye and grown up Princess Leia buns.
I personally think the drama of Summer returning would make be a terrible plot development, weakening the story: without her Nika has to face the uncertainty and lack of closure, he has to decide whether to follow his feelings or remain stuck on one idea. With Summer returning, he just has to chose a LI, and it becomes like 90% of the games here. Leaving Summer's fate unsolved/uncertain is probably one of the wisest things Ocean can do to keep people engaged, otherwise it just becomes another episode of waifu wars.
You can think whatever you want. But Summer's role is no less important in the game than Nick himself. Can you imagine WIAB without Leah? Same thing with SG without Summer. Summer has been in the game from the very beginning. And to your disappointment, the plot of the game is not that Nick should fuck as many women as possible. Think about what the plot is about
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You misunderstand me - I am not interested in a harem style game, I am very interested in the plot. I believe if Summer returns it will make the plot boring. It can be done well, but the 'blast from the past' throwing all Nika's choices to the wind is a very boring, cheap and obvious way way to develop the plot. It's Ocean's story though, and so far he hasn't been boring me. The plot is about Nika learning to overcome grief and get on with his life, as well as help the people he cares about get over their traumas. Summer reappearing adds drama, but Nika doesn't have to move on then, his life just paused. A story about people moving forward away from their past, of their own will is far more interesting.You can think whatever you want. But Summer's role is no less important in the game than Nick himself. Can you imagine WIAB without Leah? Same thing with SG without Summer. Summer has been in the game from the very beginning. And to your disappointment, the plot of the game is not that Nick should fuck as many women as possible. Think about what the plot is about
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This is an interesting debate, and while I have a position taken, I would like to add brain food.
We can consider Summer as Chekhov's Gun or as a McGuffin. And both positions have their valid points, personally, seeing the amount of clichés, prototypical developments and anime axioms scattered here and there, I'm inclined to think Summer is a Chekhov`s gun.
But, at the same time, I agree that it would be very valuable to the story if she were only a McGuffin.