Den1mo

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Whatcha mean it can't be cheaper? it's free right here.

Also, Steam has sales so, it'll be "cheaper to buy" sooner or later. If you plan on buying it on Steam/etc.
I think you misunderstood my answer. the question was why steam release is first and not patreon so I tried to explain to him that it doesn't matter because it will have the same price on both platforms. maybe he expects that it would be cheaper on patreon
 

BobTheDuck

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Back to the old Bella this, Bella that, Bella only LI bollocks again I see.

Ocean has said time and time again, the first chapter is heavily Bella/Nami focused. Subsequently going forward ALL LI's will get their time in the limelight.
At least the first picture on epic is Vanessa. Will absolutely love to see new players faces when Bella turns out to be blonde, with no tiara or heterochromia :sneaky: Strange choice to market it like this, it seems to be the only real difference on the store's blurb.
 
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JJ1960

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As the Devil's Advocate again, my vote is for Marla because she's definitely the psychotic loose canon in this game.

Without a single shred of evidence, I submit:

1. Marla ran over and killed Summer.
2. Marla tried to run over Nami (but hit Nika). Leia gave Nami an earring to warn Marla not to try again.
3. Marla tried to run over Sasha, only injuring her. Leia gave Sasha an earring to warn Marla not to try again.
4. Marla ran over and paralyzed Victoria.

She's outta control. Who will be her next target?

That's the REAL reason Ocean originally had the Nika-shoots-Marla option in Ch 1... /s ;)
Perhaps Ocean should have named her Christine instead of Marla...

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RNasc4444

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You also can't avoid the wiggly :sick:.
I have a fuckton of criticism for a myriad of reasons of this game post-rework but that "dance" in particular is an absolute standout. It's just such a REVOLTING scene that almost killed my love for Nami as a character. I thought she was the most attractive character in the game overall until I saw that. Nowadays she's below Sasha and Maja and just barely above Robin, Noji and Ayua.

Lesson learned. Always pass on going inside that bathroom.
 

BobTheDuck

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I have a fuckton of criticism for a myriad of reasons of this game post-rework but that "dance" in particular is an absolute standout. It's just such a REVOLTING scene that almost killed my love for Nami as a character. I thought she was the most attractive character in the game overall until I saw that. Nowadays she's below Sasha and Maja and just barely above Robin, Noji and Ayua.

Lesson learned. Always pass on going inside that bathroom.
Yep. And that lesson goes 100% against the logic learned in most AVN's :sneaky:

I understand the attempt and reason, I think it's just poor execution. It's meant to be cringe, sure, but Nami is the queen of cringeworthy comments. She could have 100% made things awkward without the dance.

I MUCH prefer the tabletop to the wiggly. I even prefer CH1 Mila to the wiggly. I think I like Nami most from CH4 onwards. Until then her personality just rubs me the wrong way at odd moments. From dinner with the Benz's onwards I don't find her character swinging between extremes as strangely.

It's a personal thing though I guess.

She's below all those you've listed in my opinion :)
 

Maviarab

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I have a fuckton of criticism for a myriad of reasons of this game post-rework but that "dance" in particular is an absolute standout. It's just such a REVOLTING scene that almost killed my love for Nami as a character. I thought she was the most attractive character in the game overall until I saw that. Nowadays she's below Sasha and Maja and just barely above Robin, Noji and Ayua.

Lesson learned. Always pass on going inside that bathroom.
Yep. And that lesson goes 100% against the logic learned in most AVN's :sneaky:

I understand the attempt and reason, I think it's just poor execution. It's meant to be cringe, sure, but Nami is the queen of cringeworthy comments. She could have 100% made things awkward without the dance.

I MUCH prefer the tabletop to the wiggly. I even prefer CH1 Mila to the wiggly. I think I like Nami most from CH4 onwards. Until then her personality just rubs me the wrong way at odd moments. From dinner with the Benz's onwards I don't find her character swinging between extremes as strangely.

It's a personal thing though I guess.

She's below all those you've listed in my opinion :)
I don't what the problem is with just admitting that Vic is the best girl.

You'll be much happier when you just let it go and be at peace with this realisation guys ;)
 

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Honestly, the fact that Leia is attending a book club already makes me wonder what is going on behind the scenes of this club.
Regarding the controversy that Nojiko, as a doctor, should earn much more and other disputes, such as if Nika and Nami are theoretically descendants of a powerful clan, I think the answer is much simpler and lies on the surface. The main character often begins his journey penniless. Even Willy (Viab), a descendant of a powerful clan, a demigod in the flesh with high intelligence and charisma.....can’t even afford his own apartment at the beginning of the game, but can only boast of his intellect in front of Keti, and the results at the beginning of the game are zero.
 

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Honestly, the fact that Leia is attending a book club already makes me wonder what is going on behind the scenes of this club.
Regarding the controversy that Nojiko, as a doctor, should earn much more and other disputes, such as if Nika and Nami are theoretically descendants of a powerful clan, I think the answer is much simpler and lies on the surface. The main character often begins his journey penniless. Even Willy (Viab), a descendant of a powerful clan, a demigod in the flesh with high intelligence and charisma.....can’t even afford his own apartment at the beginning of the game, but can only boast of his intellect in front of Keti, and the results at the beginning of the game are zero.
That makes sense to me, the same sort of thing as every game, the initial hurdles are mundane, because the game needs you to learn the mechanics of interacting without frustrating the player (ie in an RPG, level one rats even if you're a demigod with an ancient sword). It's different in an AVN as there is very little for the player to learn mechanics wise, what the player needs to learn is the characters and the back stories. If things are too complicated from the outset, in either case, people tend to get lost and don't understamd what's going on.

In Ocean's case, he hides things in the background, so things seem like just scenery, until we realise going back that he's woven it in under our noses, simply because it's things we don't expect to see, the focal point guides us etc.

Regards, Willi, he has money from his writing, as far as I remember, he does have an apartment, but he has to either wrap up the lease or sell to have the cash for another one (funny thing is that Mon can afford to live in the apartment block on her police salary, when even Dana flinches at what she is charging; Ben must be doing well...). As for Nika and his outsider status, Ocean want to tell a story about coming home, and resolving or moving past conflicts, so Nika needs to be coming from a different angle than all these (mostly) rich love interests. The story needs his character to be struggling on multiple fronts, and for him to be suspicious/cynical of people, so he is. Ocean can fill the gaps with all kinds of explanations as needed, in order to have the characters start where he wants them. And if anything is disproportionate, it's not really going to ruin the story (the 6 hour drive to the cabin, the three weeks to college that is two a few minutues later, Noji's pay seeming more in line with an orderly/nurse than a doctor, etc). These things are just the obstacles that are necessary for the drama to kick off. If Noji had money more in line with her profession, the rodent invasion would be even more out of leftfield for example.
 

Don Sucio

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I don't what the problem is with just admitting that Vic is the best girl.

You'll be much happier when you just let it go and be at peace with this realisation guys ;)
Don´t be mad with me but... I don´t like Vic :oops: ,maybe when the season 1 release i could like her more. (her character is very good written, it´s just her personality is not my prefer type)
 

BobTheDuck

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I don't what the problem is with just admitting that Vic is the best girl.

You'll be much happier when you just let it go and be at peace with this realisation guys ;)
Don´t be mad with me but... I don´t like Vic :oops: ,maybe when the season 1 release i could like her more. (her character is very good written, it´s just her personality is not my prefer type)
I mean, every scene with her I feel like I'm going to get diabetes.

However....

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AlexFXR

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eh I wouldn't say exception but small miniority yes cause ive seen people plenty say that same or something similar as me before.
I didn't just say that you are an exception to the rule. There are actually very few people like you who actually buy games. I'll try to find a video on YouTube where they expose people. They are offered $100 to show the games they bought after piracy on Steam or Epic to confirm their words, but they immediately refuse and find a reason to leave. It was quite a fun show.
 

Dessolos

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I didn't just say that you are an exception to the rule. There are actually very few people like you who actually buy games. I'll try to find a video on YouTube where they expose people. They are offered $100 to show the games they bought after piracy on Steam or Epic to confirm their words, but they immediately refuse and find a reason to leave. It was quite a fun show.
ah I see what you mean now thought you were only talking about AVN's. I actually never pirated games before AVN's tbh I never even tried as I never felt comfortable doing it when big AAA companies are involved. Even games I was unsure if I would of liked.
 

rudy007

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Vic was my favorite at first till Bella changed my mind, then Nami ended up being too hilarious of a character, then in the last update Nia won my heart so now Vic is in 4th for me.
We can't judge Ocean for too many beautiful characters. And not only physical... :LOL:
Agree with your choices, but I would add Amber&Nojiko too... But that's only me...
 
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