I'm still at a loss as to how the 2 year sanitation for it to now be on Steam is for monetary purposes. That doesn't hold any merit... boobies gain eyeball count, they don't detract from it. Sex sells.... not the opposite, been that way forever. So I can't see "sanitation for a two year steam prep" being the reason tbh.
Pretty sure it was mentioned here that he kowtowed to music license holders. He got rid of some of the most adult content in order to keep the music licenses he had purchased. That and the rating. He was aiming at a lower age rating on Steam so that he could sell the game to a wider audience.
Yes, I get that you have your opinion which is fine and all, but just because a definition doesnt fit your opinion, it doesn't mean it's "subjective"... When we say "AVN", no one thinks of... I dunno, Telltale's Walking Dead games... we all think "bewbs". Definitions exist for a reason, you can't go around saying "dog" expecting people to understand "cat" just because in your opinion dogs and cats are house pets with 4 legs and a tail and they both lick their balls and therefore they're pretty much the same.
Ah yes, AVN "romance"
Of course he wants to double dip. A lot of people defend the steam release because that means there won't be anymore remakes or so they say but what happens in 5 years when season 2 is ready to be released on steam but steam has changed most of their policies including their nudity policy. What's going to happen then? Will ocean completely cut every nude scene in the game to keep it on steam? Probably.
Amen brother. 'Nuff said there, since that 'bout covers most of the the problems in today's world we all must live in.
Well... not so much. Steam is one of (and always has been) the most lenient of distribution platforms. Their entire business is built on that philosophy tbh. But, yes, anything can happen these days so I'll give you that... no doubt there. We've all seen things done IRL the past couple of years that have made all our jaws drop in disbelief.
well i believe every AVN gamer that loves lewd content sould buy all the AVNs they can before the PC police comes to steam and we all will only get VNs with no nudes or sex, like you said patreon is already to the point of banning certain AVNs how much longer will steam become that way, i say very soon if trends progress the way they have in the last couple years.
When you put it like that yeah I get more of what you mean or why people would say something isn't an AVN cause boobs is the most popular genre of AVN. Probably some out there but rare for a AVN to be like Dexter or Game of Thrones without the lewds. I think I read to much into the "A" with my opinion when I see someone the says X isn't an AVN but I can see it clear as day from my point of view. Especially cause I dont play for lewds and see them as a nice bonus or reward I have bit of a skewed view of what an AVN is to most people.
Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what's going to happen. Definitely. I truly believe Steam is going to censor thousands of games, including AAA games like The Witcher, Baldurs Gate 3 and etc because they have nudity and sex in them. Definitely. Yep. It's going to happen. 100%.
i believe by the time ocean fully releases season 2 to steam with nudes and sex and all that jazz and i'm saying that when summers gone season 2 is completely done just like season 1 which will be serveral years from now like 5 years probaly, steam will have changed it's views on nudes and sex in AVNs because patreon is just the beginning of the PC police on platforms for AVNs. thats just my opinion on how things are changing in the gaming world the PC community is powerful. you can't have certain words in games now and incest and it's only beginning.
The complaints now are the same as they started two years ago... exactly the same, so those aren't a sudden action either. This isn't about a few nipples or scenes here and there in this one "update". If that's your stance/view then you are missing the whole point imo (again imo).
Almost every AAA AVN on this site with very risque (questionable) lewd content is on Steam with zero issue, making gobs of monetary gain which Steam gets a cut of. You know this, right? I still don't believe this has anything to do with Steam at all... but that's opinion, I'm just expressing it.
i have one AVN game on steam and this deveolper in on patreon and i don't know how in the hell he hasnt been banned on patreon as of yet and he has been on there for at least 4 years now and his game is full of all kinda of lewd and risque content like i would have thought he would be gone in no time but as of now he is making his 2nd game with about if not the same kind of risque lewd content as the first, it's kinda crazy but hey i'm happy he is still making AVNs like that and getting away with it.
i just think and correct me if i'm wrong but the patreons that support ocean with $3 to $100 dollars a month sould get a better version than the supporters on steam with their one time payment of $15 thats just how i think so take it how you like.View attachment 3635668
Dev has just validated all my points for the last two years.
There ya have it. Guess I'll just sip whiskey the rest of the night.
It's all over now if "they're not censored".
Weren't we having a discussion regarding "definitions" earlier?
Jacowboy will see the irony here I reckon.
Y'all have a good one.
Well you know, there's no different, so it's all fine... =PView attachment 3635668
Dev has just validated all my points for the last two years.
There ya have it. Guess I'll just sip whiskey the rest of the night.
It's all over now if "they're not censored".
Weren't we having a discussion regarding "definitions" earlier?
Jacowboy will see the irony here I reckon.
Y'all have a good one.
