VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[RNasc4444]

Did you got beaten up regularly by your childhood sweetheart or somehting or why the hate?

Wait are you seriously asking? Or just joking around?

I feel like I've answered this a million times. But here it goes again. Few reasons why Summer is a disgustingly awful child:

- Befriends Nami only to basically turn on her to the point of treating her like shit.
- Her idea of entertainment is pitting 2 animals against each other and watching them fight
- Her idea of "flirting" is physical violence
- Treats her own little cousin like shit too

And all this is after Ocean softened her up quite a bit. I don't really blame her as all children are a product of their upbringing but I refuse to go easy on her either. Also this is not specific to Summer. I've been very outspoken about both of Ocean's protagonists being huge pieces of shit too.

On the Summer topic, for a while, a few years ago, I was even entertaining the idea of the MC's trauma being accidentally killing Summer trying to break up an argument between her and Nami. And then him and Nami hiding the body but the MC having forgoten the whole thing due to how traumatizing it was. That ship sailed too, sadly. I would have enjoyed Summer being actually dead dead and having no shot at appearing in the story later.

 

[Joan6969]

"Her idea of entertainment is pitting 2 animals against each other and watching them fight"
C'mon bro!!!!! they were freaking spiders..... In fact you're talking about this girl likes
she's an adult? She was just a kid maybe 13 at most? Hopefully you're just joking lol!

 

[RNasc4444]

"Her idea of entertainment is pitting 2 animals against each other and watching them fight"
C'mon bro!!!!! they were freaking spiders..... In fact you're talking about this girl likes
she's an adult? She was just a kid maybe 13 at most? Hopefully you're just joking lol!

Is your argument here that spiders aren't animals? Or just playing semantics? Because I do include insects in the broader "animals" term here.
Are you arguing that someone who's 13 can't tell right from wrong? Shit in the US these "children" are driving at 16. A moral compass is kinda expected a little earlier than that, no?
And no, I'm *dead* ( ) serious. If your child behaves at 13 or 14 like Summer did, you are a failure as a parent.

 

[Hobocop Harrier du bois]

And no, I'm *dead* ( ) serious. If your child behaves at 13 or 14 like Summer did, you are a failure as a parent.

Note to self: If your kid starts a mortal kombat tournament with bugs, it might be time to put him/her up for adoption.

 

[Joan6969]

Note to self: If your kid starts a mortal kombat tournament with bugs, it might be time to put him/her up for adoption.

Well looks that way if your the OP who thinks spiders are animals and kids
are adults in grade school...... And I should be locked up for using a can of raid on ants invading my house

 

[yossa999]

Note to self: If your kid starts a mortal kombat tournament with bugs, it might be time to put him/her up for adoption.

And if you suddenly find comments in this thread that suspiciously resemble something your kid might have posted, don't rush to punish him and change the parental control password; perhaps the little shit has nothing to do with it, and it's just some regulars have been recently unbanned.

 

[AlexFXR]

This week there's a devlog, right? Ocean must comment on something about taxes or excuses that WiAB is taking away his sleepless nights.

He already uses mystical post-processing as an excuse. Well, if the post-processing is ready, then it will be the phone's turn or the music license. Ocean doesn't like to come up with new excuses, he usually uses the old ones in a circle.
p.s. That's right, the log will be on Wednesday.

 

[Maccabbee]

Is your argument here that spiders aren't animals? Or just playing semantics? Because I do include insects in the broader "animals" term here.
Are you arguing that someone who's 13 can't tell right from wrong? Shit in the US these "children" are driving at 16. A moral compass is kinda expected a little earlier than that, no?
And no, I'm *dead* ( ) serious. If your child behaves at 13 or 14 like Summer did, you are a failure as a parent.

Seriously, dude, you need to get a grip. She didn't turn on Nami, Nami turned on her out of jealousy of Nika, and Nami felt betrayed by Summer, when Summer still liked her, but loved Nika. Summer even says she doesn't hate Nami, and probably realized that Nami was jealous. Summer is a confrontational tomboy as a kid, and never fought Nami, and apparently only beat up on guys as a kid. Yeah, she was 13 in that scene, as I think it was the day before she disappeared. Some people mature earlier than others, but really, griefing on her because she likes spider fights? Get over yourself.

They weren't forcing them to fight (like, how do you force a spider to do anything?). They put two spiders together hoping they'd fight. They didn't even fight! The spiders fucked!

 

[RNasc4444]

Note to self: If your kid starts a mortal kombat tournament with bugs, it might be time to put him/her up for adoption.

It's really no surprise that many sociopaths and serial killers start with animal abuse. It's one of the early signs of generalized lack of empathy. Abusing the defenseless

 

[Hobocop Harrier du bois]

He already uses mystical post-processing as an excuse. Well, if the post-processing is ready, then it will be the phone's turn or the music license. Ocean doesn't like to come up with new excuses, he usually uses the old ones in a circle.
p.s. That's right, the log will be on Wednesday.

Good night to you too Alexander.

 

[igorkant]

I need more Bella content desperately. She is the GODDESS!!!

 

[RNasc4444]

Seriously, dude, you need to get a grip. She didn't turn on Nami, Nami turned on her out of jealousy of Nika, and Nami felt betrayed by Summer, when Summer still liked her, but loved Nika.

If this is your interpretation of what happened then we are playing different games, therefore discussion is pointless. I don't play the Steam version in the OP so maybe there's a disconnect there.

 

[Don Sucio]

Wait are you seriously asking? Or just joking around?

I feel like I've answered this a million times. But here it goes again. Few reasons why Summer is a disgustingly awful child:

- Befriends Nami only to basically turn on her to the point of treating her like shit.
- Her idea of entertainment is pitting 2 animals against each other and watching them fight
- Her idea of "flirting" is physical violence
- Treats her own little cousin like shit too

And all this is after Ocean softened her up quite a bit. I don't really blame her as all children are a product of their upbringing but I refuse to go easy on her either. Also this is not specific to Summer. I've been very outspoken about both of Ocean's protagonists being huge pieces of shit too.

On the Summer topic, for a while, a few years ago, I was even entertaining the idea of the MC's trauma being accidentally killing Summer trying to break up an argument between her and Nami. And then him and Nami hiding the body but the MC having forgoten the whole thing due to how traumatizing it was. That ship sailed too, sadly. I would have enjoyed Summer being actually dead dead and having no shot at appearing in the story later.

Seriously, dude, you need to get a grip. She didn't turn on Nami, Nami turned on her out of jealousy of Nika, and Nami felt betrayed by Summer, when Summer still liked her, but loved Nika. Summer even says she doesn't hate Nami, and probably realized that Nami was jealous. Summer is a confrontational tomboy as a kid, and never fought Nami, and apparently only beat up on guys as a kid. Yeah, she was 13 in that scene, as I think it was the day before she disappeared. Some people mature earlier than others, but really, griefing on her because she likes spider fights? Get over yourself.

They weren't forcing them to fight (like, how do you force a spider to do anything?). They put two spiders together hoping they'd fight. They didn't even fight! The spiders fucked!

My point of view is Nami being jealous because Nika prefers spend the time with Summer and not with her, but yeah… I think Summer was a little selfish because she literally separated Nika from Nami (Nika chose that too so…) I think both of them have their own fault

About spiders and insects fights… I have to confess… I watch sometimes those youtube videos about a spider vs a scorpion or those things… I don’t see it really bad, i mean, i can understand why someone wouldn’t like it but i don’t think is something real bad.

 

[RNasc4444]

My point of view is Nami being jealous because Nika prefers spend the time with Summer and not with her, but yeah… I think Summer was a little selfish because she literally separated Nika from Nami (Nika chose that too so…) I think both of them have their own fault

About spiders and insects fights… I have to confess… I watch sometimes those youtube videos about a spider vs a scorpion or those things… I don’t see it really bad, i mean, i can understand why someone wouldn’t like it but i don’t think is something real bad.

Yeah I guess I can see that. But Nami brought Summer "in" as reinforcement against the MC in their sibling rivalry. Then Summer "betrayed" Nami and shut her out. The MC's "fault" in the matter is perfectly understandable. But one thing I've always noticed is that Ocean seems to portray children in very polar opposites in both games. The MC, Summer, Leia and William are very nasty kids that contrast with how sweet people like Elsa, Bella, Mila and even Nami are portrayed. So they kinda stand out to me. People can agree or not, it's just how I see it.

That's fine but I just found the whole intro scene jarring honestly. It creeped me out. Always did, still does a little. I don't see that as normal child behavior. Whatever Ocean tried to portray there it missed the mark with me. I lean towards future psycopaths more than well adjusted young adults. I think that scene is partly a remnant of a game that doesn't exist anymore but was kept because "fuck it".

 

[Maccabbee]

Yeah I guess I can see that. But Nami brought Summer "in" as reinforcement against the MC in their sibling rivalry. Then Summer "betrayed" Nami and shut her out. The MC's "fault" in the matter is perfectly understandable. But one thing I've always noticed is that Ocean seems to portray children in very polar opposites in both games. The MC, Summer, Leia and William are very nasty kids that contrast with how sweet people like Elsa, Bella, Mila and even Nami are portrayed. So they kinda stand out to me. People can agree or not, it's just how I see it.

That's fine but I just found the whole intro scene jarring honestly. It creeped me out. Always did, still does a little. I don't see that as normal child behavior. Whatever Ocean tried to portray there it missed the mark with me. I lean towards future psycopaths more than well adjusted young adults. I think that scene is partly a remnant of a game that doesn't exist anymore but was kept because "fuck it".

That's mostly because the WIAB kids grew up with Dylan forcing brutal competitions between them, and trying to toughen them up for their future life of crime. It wasn't helped (in the original story) by all the hidden incest and sibling rivalry between Leia and Katie. At a guess, I don't think Leia was a total cunt (to anyone except Katie and Monica) until after Will abandoned her when they were 16 (and without explaining or contacting her in any way for years). It definitely made more sense with them being incestuous twins than it does now...

 

[Darkdevil66]

That's fine but I just found the whole intro scene jarring honestly. It creeped me out. Always did, still does a little. I don't see that as normal child behavior.

But that's the spider part that disturbed you ?

 

[Krytax123]

Wait are you seriously asking? Or just joking around?

I feel like I've answered this a million times. But here it goes again. Few reasons why Summer is a disgustingly awful child:

- Befriends Nami only to basically turn on her to the point of treating her like shit.
- Her idea of entertainment is pitting 2 animals against each other and watching them fight
- Her idea of "flirting" is physical violence
- Treats her own little cousin like shit too

And all this is after Ocean softened her up quite a bit. I don't really blame her as all children are a product of their upbringing but I refuse to go easy on her either. Also this is not specific to Summer. I've been very outspoken about both of Ocean's protagonists being huge pieces of shit too.

On the Summer topic, for a while, a few years ago, I was even entertaining the idea of the MC's trauma being accidentally killing Summer trying to break up an argument between her and Nami. And then him and Nami hiding the body but the MC having forgoten the whole thing due to how traumatizing it was. That ship sailed too, sadly. I would have enjoyed Summer being actually dead dead and having no shot at appearing in the story later.

lmao i see. Thats harsh

(i like summer)

And bro, its not like its easy to keep up with all the girls you dislike, im picky myself but you are on a different level, so give me a break

 

[RNasc4444]

That's mostly because the WIAB kids grew up with Dylan forcing brutal competitions between them, and trying to toughen them up for their future life of crime. It wasn't helped (in the original story) by all the hidden incest and sibling rivalry between Leia and Katie. At a guess, I don't think Leia was a total cunt (to anyone except Katie and Monica) until after Will abandoned her when they were 16 (and without explaining or contacting her in any way for years). It definitely made more sense with them being incestuous twins than it does now...

I feel like it's implied both Leia and William were assholes by how they treated Katie. And that was before William left. But yeah like I said I don't fault the children entirely because their upbringing plays a big part in who they become.

But that's the spider part that disturbed you ?

Like I said it was a different game back then
And God I fucking miss crackhead Nami

And bro, its not like its easy to keep up with all the girls you dislike, im picky myself but you are on a different level, so give me a break

No no no! Give ME a break! It's a fairly short list and hasn't changed much in years!
From SG I'm neutral about most characters. I strongly dislike Summer, Nia and Zara. Then comes the tier with the Cyrill bitches, Kate, Miriam etc... After that comes the characters that are slowly being "fixed" like Marla and Amber.

Ok just basically, right now it's Summer, Nia, Zara... That's it. But worry not I'm sure Leia will take the lead on my hate list as soon as she shows up in SG. Wouldn't mind bashing that bitch's skull in...

 

[Krytax123]

I feel like it's implied both Leia and William were assholes by how they treated Katie. And that was before William left. But yeah like I said I don't fault the children entirely because their upbringing plays a big part in who they become.


Like I said it was a different game back then
And God I fucking miss crackhead Nami


No no no! Give ME a break! It's a fairly short list and hasn't changed much in years!
From SG I'm neutral about most characters. I strongly dislike Summer, Nia and Zara. Then comes the tier with the Cyrill bitches, Kate, Miriam etc... After that comes the characters that are slowly being "fixed" like Marla and Amber.

Ok just basically, right now it's Summer, Nia, Zara... That's it. But worry not I'm sure Leia will take the lead on my hate list as soon as she shows up in SG. Wouldn't mind bashing that bitch's skull in...

Thats it? really? sure?

So you cant wait to continue your Mila and Vic playthroughs when the next episode drops hm?

 

[RNasc4444]

Thats it? really? sure?

So you cant wait to continue your Mila and Vic playthroughs when the next episode drops hm?

I mostly shit on the chubby cripple to fuck with Mavi Even though I kinda wish she wasn't so annoyingly sweet and naive. But I'd carry her chubby ass around all day and night for a single shot at her sister

And Mila...I really wish we didn't have to move in with her. It bothers me how preachy and judgy she is. Then there's the whole circus freak body type thing. Me no likey.

That's it. I like them both as friends to the MC. Not at all as LI's though. They are nowhere near the Summer, Nia, Zara tier. Those three I don't even want so see on my screen