Maccabbee

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We live in a toxic world in which most people just don't understand the concept of patronage, which is literally what Patreon is named after. They only understand the comparatively crass concept of "I spend money, therefore I bought something, and should immediately get something in return".
Kickstarter is even worse. There have been major lawsuits.
 

NozToh

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This past week I've been skimming through the thread since the last update dropped which was like mid-2024 I believe, mainly to just see the dev logs and people's reactions to them. It has certainly been a journey going through all the taxes, workstations, the joys of blender, render numbers ballooning, people asking if there's any sex yet, people begging for ayua and maja to become LIs, the haters ragebaiting (quite successfully) and so on. I'm all caught up now and taking into account what I've seen I don't see this update coming out till like early 2026.

I think Ocean has been way too ambitious with S2, collectibles, changing clothing variations based on decisions, mass effect-type dialogue choices, phone system with messaging/videos/photos, it all sounds amazing but this is insanity for a single dev that is making 2 games at once and keeps increasing the amount of content for this chapter. I think he really needs to focus on one game at a time going forward and start forcing render limits per chapter.
 

Maccabbee

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Such a bad call. The only Vic run I'd ever do would be run her over with her own wheelchair. Fucking chubby cripple tard is the reason we can't have Maja as an LI :mad:
You know, for an often funny guy, you're a bit toxic. Maja is extremely hot, and I am sad she's been dropped as an LI, but we still might get some side action with her. Ragging on poor Vic like that is just wrong. She is the most sweet and light LI, while still being extremely perv. I really am torn between her, Bella, and Zara. The fact is that we don't fuck anyone yet, and the four-way makeout on movie night is the hottest fucking scene in the game so far.
 

RNasc4444

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You know, for an often funny guy, you're a bit toxic. Maja is extremely hot, and I am sad she's been dropped as an LI, but we still might get some side action with her. Ragging on poor Vic like that is just wrong. She is the most sweet and light LI, while still being extremely perv. I really am torn between her, Bella, and Zara. The fact is that we don't fuck anyone yet, and the four-way makeout on movie night is the hottest fucking scene in the game so far.
Just a bit? Kinda offended by that since I usually try to swing for the fences :LOL:

I like Vic. I've made that clear here a bunch of times. But only as a friend, can never see her as an LI. My issues with her character have been discussed to exhaustion. She's too sweet and naive to the point of annoyance. And I also resent her character for 2 reasons. Making Maja an LI unfeasible and the emotional manipulation her character and condition tend to exert on the player. I always play good/nice routes. I take no pleasure in being an asshole or rude/dark (despite what my comments here may suggest). Therefore it's kinda hard to reject her advances for me.

Those reasons tend to make me harbor a bit of resentment toward her despite me actually liking the character quite a bit as a non LI.
 
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Marley300

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Hello,

Gone are the days of the Wednesday dev logs. Welcome the age of Sunday Logs.

It makes a lot more sense to have Dev Logs on Sunday, as I don’t do render work on it and instead focus on preparation, postwork, behind-the-scenes stuff, contracts, etc.

I finished my move, and after the initial 4 days of party invites and BBQs, I have now returned to my usual working routine.

This must do for a vacation for the next two years, even though I apparently semi-agreed to a trip to Mexico next year. I blame the tequila.

I'll only go there if I can clearly say I improved the release schedule of the 2000-2500 render updates.

My Main workstation with the A6000s has been running for a few days. It and all my monitors survived the trip. No issues there.

I still haven’t connected my other PC with the 4090 as I don’t have animations to render right now and would like to produce as little heat as possible.

Renders done in the past 6 days.

Renders: 6050 -> 6300 (~250)
I currently average about 45 renders per day, and I hope to increase this to around 55 by next week.

I hate nothing more than heat, and it’s affecting my output. My A6000s are reaching 80C°+ temps for the first time ever, and my mobile AC can’t cool the room at all.

I now live in a less insulated house again, and it shows.

The Dorms

I totally forgot to mention this in the previous log…

Surprisingly, there aren’t any really good assets for a college dorm.

There are assets for specific rooms, but not the hallway itself. At least nothing that looked good enough.

So, I decided to create my own.

I modeled a very basic hallway in Blender
Blender Dorms.png
How it looked in Daz:
Dorms_Bareback.png
How it looked an hour later:
Dorms_V1.png
It’s modular, allowing me to add as many additional floors as needed in the future. (*cough* Dorm parties)

Goth Treats Vol. 1
Goth Trifecta Final.png
23 images and 3 extra images for the Silent Rain and above.


As always, Treats aren’t about quality; they are about acting on sudden inspirations and finishing them before the inspiration goes away.
I might create an extra set based on the additional image for Nia. I really like it.
I’m certain I will create Vol. 2 before the new update releases… All I can say is… Goth Sasha hits surprisingly hard.

Community Treat

Here are the 3 sets you can vote for:
1. Bella, Ayua, and Nadia hanging out at the Beach.
2. Bella & Zara in the classroom.
3. Bella and Mila Catfight, including making up.

You can vote for one below. It will be a free Treat set.

I added the first place and scenario that came to my mind to #2 as the comment only said “Bellchen and Zara.”

The community treat will be publicly available. (NSFW images need to be behind a paywall on Patreon iirc, so I will release it here for every supporter, but you can grab it from Discord, too.)

Previews
Zara love continues.
Zara.png
A rival enters the area.
Nadia.png

I'm almost done with a big scene… And afterward…

Another big scene!

But that one is a lot more diverse… I’m looking forward to it.

I’m documenting my daily progress religiously and have a code snippet that tracks how many renders I complete daily.

It will be a cute little challenge to push the numbers up.

I'll see you in two weeks... We should be closing in on 7000 renders by then.

- Ocean
 

Maccabbee

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Just a bit? Kinda offended by that since I usually try to swing for the fences :LOL:

I like Vic. I've made that clear here a bunch of times. But only as a friend, can never see her as an LI. My issues with her character have been discussed to exhaustion. She's too sweet and naive to the point of annoyance. And I also resent her character for 2 reasons. Making Maja an LI unfeasible and the emotional manipulation her character and condition tend to exert on the player. I always play good/nice routes. I take no pleasure in being an asshole or rude/dark (despite what my comments here may suggest). Therefore it's kinda hard to reject her advances for me.

Those reasons tend to make me harbor a bit of resentment toward her despite me actually liking the character quite a bit as a non LI.
You and me both, brother! I'd love it if we could compare infraction points and post deletions, someday! :ROFLMAO:

I generally play the same way, though the MC's personality tends to rub off on my choices (an effect of formerly being an actor, I suppose). I don't take offence at Vic or the blatant manipulation because that is what plot and writing are, trying to evoke reactions from the readers. I find Vic attractive and well written, and surprisingly pervy for someone so naive. I think we'll find she is less naive than we think, and it's just an affectation and coping mechanism, like her optimism is.

I also really like Maja and think she's one of the most beautiful females in the game (maybe Zara and Amber on top of her, but Noji has them all beat on cuteness). Really hoping for at least an encounter, once we get our parts working and head more straight....
 

Ahx

Active Member
Jul 9, 2021
941
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We live in a toxic world in which most people just don't understand the concept of patronage, which is literally what Patreon is named after. They only understand the comparatively crass concept of "I spend money, therefore I bought something, and should immediately get something in return".
Well, so much for the foursome thing. I think its just gonna be a Vic run. That scene at the physical therapist always gets me. :cry:


Whats there to feel sorry for? Patreon isn't about buying a product. Its about supporting a creator. Its the classical patron model extended to the masses being able to support creators. Its the same as donating to cancer research. You're doing it to help out because you believe in the cause/creator. Its not about getting the product for a fair value.

Anyone who gives money just to "pay" for the game, would support for one month at whatever tier they feel is appropriate and then cancel the sub after that month is paid for.
wrong-drumpf.gif

Patreon’s model is a mutual exchange. Supporters pledge money to creators, and creators often offer rewards like exclusive content, behind-the-scenes access, or even quirky stuff like their cat’s paw print, you get the idea.

No one’s doing this out of charity. That’s the core of Patreon’s purpose, and anyone claiming it’s just selfless giving... well, take a cue from Boss.gif and rethink that.

When it comes to OceanLab, most supporters pledge because they love what he’s offering, whether it’s after 5 months, 8 months, or a year. The key is that most of his supporters are happy with what they get. That’s the bottom line.

To say it clearly, they’re satisfied with these updates. You can argue otherwise, but you’d be wrong.

That big ass dev log above, you see, these kind of things are the main reasons his supporters have unwavering faith in him.
 
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Ahx

Active Member
Jul 9, 2021
941
3,403


Hello,

Gone are the days of the Wednesday dev logs. Welcome the age of Sunday Logs.

It makes a lot more sense to have Dev Logs on Sunday, as I don’t do render work on it and instead focus on preparation, postwork, behind-the-scenes stuff, contracts, etc.

I finished my move, and after the initial 4 days of party invites and BBQs, I have now returned to my usual working routine.

This must do for a vacation for the next two years, even though I apparently semi-agreed to a trip to Mexico next year. I blame the tequila.

I'll only go there if I can clearly say I improved the release schedule of the 2000-2500 render updates.

My Main workstation with the A6000s has been running for a few days. It and all my monitors survived the trip. No issues there.

I still haven’t connected my other PC with the 4090 as I don’t have animations to render right now and would like to produce as little heat as possible.

Renders done in the past 6 days.

Renders: 6050 -> 6300 (~250)
I currently average about 45 renders per day, and I hope to increase this to around 55 by next week.

I hate nothing more than heat, and it’s affecting my output. My A6000s are reaching 80C°+ temps for the first time ever, and my mobile AC can’t cool the room at all.

I now live in a less insulated house again, and it shows.

The Dorms

I totally forgot to mention this in the previous log…

Surprisingly, there aren’t any really good assets for a college dorm.

There are assets for specific rooms, but not the hallway itself. At least nothing that looked good enough.

So, I decided to create my own.

I modeled a very basic hallway in Blender
View attachment 4993531
How it looked in Daz:
View attachment 4993530
How it looked an hour later:
View attachment 4993529
It’s modular, allowing me to add as many additional floors as needed in the future. (*cough* Dorm parties)

Goth Treats Vol. 1
View attachment 4993528
23 images and 3 extra images for the Silent Rain and above.


As always, Treats aren’t about quality; they are about acting on sudden inspirations and finishing them before the inspiration goes away.
I might create an extra set based on the additional image for Nia. I really like it.
I’m certain I will create Vol. 2 before the new update releases… All I can say is… Goth Sasha hits surprisingly hard.

Community Treat

Here are the 3 sets you can vote for:
1. Bella, Ayua, and Nadia hanging out at the Beach.
2. Bella & Zara in the classroom.
3. Bella and Mila Catfight, including making up.

You can vote for one below. It will be a free Treat set.

I added the first place and scenario that came to my mind to #2 as the comment only said “Bellchen and Zara.”

The community treat will be publicly available. (NSFW images need to be behind a paywall on Patreon iirc, so I will release it here for every supporter, but you can grab it from Discord, too.)

Previews
Zara love continues.
View attachment 4993526
A rival enters the area.
View attachment 4993527

I'm almost done with a big scene… And afterward…

Another big scene!

But that one is a lot more diverse… I’m looking forward to it.

I’m documenting my daily progress religiously and have a code snippet that tracks how many renders I complete daily.

It will be a cute little challenge to push the numbers up.

I'll see you in two weeks... We should be closing in on 7000 renders by then.

- Ocean
Who else skips till render counts and previews?
 

Ahx

Active Member
Jul 9, 2021
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Not me. The good stuff is all in the lead up. "I went to the gym." "I had milk and cookies." "I took my trash out."

This specific update has "I finished my move, and after the initial 4 days of party invites and BBQs, I have now returned to my usual working routine."
If you subscribe his Patreon, or search up all his dev logs here, BAM! you have his journal.
 

jadepaladin

Engaged Member
Mar 9, 2020
2,024
4,217
If you subscribe his Patreon, or search up all his dev logs here, BAM! you have his journal.
I think I've given Ocean enough of my money tbh. I'll buy WiaB when it hits Steam, and I'll grab releases as they come out (sub, unsub type stuff) but past that, I'd rather my money go to other developers that I trust more.
You're right though, I know more about Ocean than I do some of my friends.
 

colombeen

Member
Modder
Jul 16, 2021
355
2,286


Hello,

Gone are the days of the Wednesday dev logs. Welcome the age of Sunday Logs.

It makes a lot more sense to have Dev Logs on Sunday, as I don’t do render work on it and instead focus on preparation, postwork, behind-the-scenes stuff, contracts, etc.

I finished my move, and after the initial 4 days of party invites and BBQs, I have now returned to my usual working routine.

This must do for a vacation for the next two years, even though I apparently semi-agreed to a trip to Mexico next year. I blame the tequila.

I'll only go there if I can clearly say I improved the release schedule of the 2000-2500 render updates.

My Main workstation with the A6000s has been running for a few days. It and all my monitors survived the trip. No issues there.

I still haven’t connected my other PC with the 4090 as I don’t have animations to render right now and would like to produce as little heat as possible.

Renders done in the past 6 days.

Renders: 6050 -> 6300 (~250)
I currently average about 45 renders per day, and I hope to increase this to around 55 by next week.

I hate nothing more than heat, and it’s affecting my output. My A6000s are reaching 80C°+ temps for the first time ever, and my mobile AC can’t cool the room at all.

I now live in a less insulated house again, and it shows.

The Dorms

I totally forgot to mention this in the previous log…

Surprisingly, there aren’t any really good assets for a college dorm.

There are assets for specific rooms, but not the hallway itself. At least nothing that looked good enough.

So, I decided to create my own.

I modeled a very basic hallway in Blender
View attachment 4993531
How it looked in Daz:
View attachment 4993530
How it looked an hour later:
View attachment 4993529
It’s modular, allowing me to add as many additional floors as needed in the future. (*cough* Dorm parties)

Goth Treats Vol. 1
View attachment 4993528
23 images and 3 extra images for the Silent Rain and above.


As always, Treats aren’t about quality; they are about acting on sudden inspirations and finishing them before the inspiration goes away.
I might create an extra set based on the additional image for Nia. I really like it.
I’m certain I will create Vol. 2 before the new update releases… All I can say is… Goth Sasha hits surprisingly hard.

Community Treat

Here are the 3 sets you can vote for:
1. Bella, Ayua, and Nadia hanging out at the Beach.
2. Bella & Zara in the classroom.
3. Bella and Mila Catfight, including making up.

You can vote for one below. It will be a free Treat set.

I added the first place and scenario that came to my mind to #2 as the comment only said “Bellchen and Zara.”

The community treat will be publicly available. (NSFW images need to be behind a paywall on Patreon iirc, so I will release it here for every supporter, but you can grab it from Discord, too.)

Previews
Zara love continues.
View attachment 4993526
A rival enters the area.
View attachment 4993527

I'm almost done with a big scene… And afterward…

Another big scene!

But that one is a lot more diverse… I’m looking forward to it.

I’m documenting my daily progress religiously and have a code snippet that tracks how many renders I complete daily.

It will be a cute little challenge to push the numbers up.

I'll see you in two weeks... We should be closing in on 7000 renders by then.

- Ocean
Does anyone have the treats?
 

Ahx

Active Member
Jul 9, 2021
941
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Maccabbee

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Holy shit, I love this other side of Nami and Vic! Nia is just more of what we have, which is pretty good. Too bad this is non-canon, because this elevates Nami's game a LOT for me.
 
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