VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Mamaragan]

Yep finished the update - my comments should have displayed that knowledge. So a couple of things we learned:

- Willi has the idea to start a university.
- Amber is there partying in the VIP section of the club, not the section where the MOR students are. So Amber, Elena, Dani and brunette (NIck's ex-future wife?) are considered safe in the VIP section where we have the Iranian couple appear after Leia talks about arms deals with Iran. At very least, these students are considered safe to have around int he VIP section where Leia brings her contacts and does contracts.
- I'm not suggesting they are all mafia, but there's nothing saying that William/Leia don't build a rival power structure to that represented by the old power of the families. THat why Donna get's a gun pointed at her.
- Sasha's 'aunt' is a bodyguard. Where have we seen that sort of behaviour?
- the police board only shows the Zane connections. the Guiseppes are more powerful, but it's the Zane's that are being investigated, most likely doe to Leia throwing chaos onto the 'chess board' of Wollust. Wiab is about how even pawns become queens, underdogs rising up etc.
- Zoey is not Mafia, but she's in a business partnership with someone who is a family member, as well as the girlfriend of a mafia family member. This will also explain what happens to turn Stefan so cynical and why he questions the Cyrus name, never having heard of the 'Cyrus' 'family'. The Relucia diner is where Dylan and Helen met people for 'business'.
- The Zane family are not one of the Five from what I see. THere are three families that act as judges, the Zanes aren't one. Helen and Scarlet are worried, because their families are subservient to those three, and presumably the other two. There's already more than five families. The three judges from different families, then the Zanes, the Aranos, the Grimaldis, the Pedersoli, the Versase, there's a lot.

Joe is an Arano, not a Zane. Leia's empire's built off Joe's. The Arano's are apparently more criminally active than the Zanes, until Leia.

- And the Venus app
- Amber and the others are on the VIP zone of a legitimate business mind you, the iranians couple only pass by to meet someone.
- Bodyguard doesn't only protect mafia, but important people. After all, why Ayua, a Zane, doesn't seem to have a bodyguard?
- Just loaded the board scene, and you are right, it's not just one board, it's more, a complicated web of various crime syndicate. The Zane is the one Ocean shows us. But there's also the Krayt, the Morellis (allies of the Giuseppe).
-We also know the Pedersoli (leia) and the Grimaldi (william) have been wipe out. In fact, Leia is being investigated for murder. And we also know William was under surveillance for years.
-Zoey is not Mafia, but being on a business with a "mafia member" is conjecture at best. First, William and Zoey's business has nothing to do with Mafia, it's just so happen William is a descendant of such family, but their business is clean. As for Katie, poor Katie seems to be completely oblivious to what happen around her. She seems to behave like a daughter of a rich family. She's only interested in fashion design. Also for stefan, just to remember that he was, as Zoey said, "corrupted" by his family to appear elitist and snobbish. Because Nika was around Bella in a very expensive restaurant, his elitist attitude snubbed Nika for being a no name.

20 years divide SG and WIAB. I'm sure Mafia and syndicate might still be a thing, I feel like that it won't be prominent in SG. You know the same way New york mafia family and crime syndicate became less of an issue compared to 20/30 years ago. They have feds on their ass and a lot is going to change.

 

[BobTheDuck]

- And the Venus app
- Amber and the others are on the VIP zone of a legitimate business mind you, the iranians couple only pass by to meet someone.
- Bodyguard doesn't only protect mafia, but important people. After all, why Ayua, a Zane, doesn't seem to have a bodyguard?
- Just loaded the board scene, and you are right, it's not just one board, it's more, a complicated web of various crime syndicate. The Zane is the one Ocean shows us. But there's also the Krayt, the Morellis (allies of the Giuseppe).
-We also know the Pedersoli (leia) and the Grimaldi (william) have been wipe out. In fact, Leia is being investigated for murder. And we also know William was under surveillance for years.
-Zoey is not Mafia, but being on a business with a "mafia member" is conjecture at best. First, William and Zoey's business has nothing to do with Mafia, it's just so happen William is a descendant of such family, but their business is clean. As for Katie, poor Katie seems to be completely oblivious to what happen around her. She seems to behave like a daughter of a rich family. She's only interested in fashion design. Also for stefan, just to remember that he was, as Zoey said, "corrupted" by his family to appear elitist and snobbish. Because Nika was around Bella in a very expensive restaurant, his elitist attitude snubbed Nika for being a no name.

20 years divide SG and WIAB. I'm sure Mafia and syndicate might still be a thing, I feel like that it won't be prominent in SG. You know the same way New york mafia family and crime syndicate became less of an issue compared to 20/30 years ago. They have feds on their ass and a lot is going to change.

Neither of us is right or wrong, it's all conjecture. But Amber knows what Noji did in WiaB. The Revera's aren't named yet in WiaB, but we see a unknown family member telling Donna to stay out of it. So if Donna's part of ZPR as a family, it's highly likely that the Petrovas are also, considering bodyguards. That makes Sasha''s things about the butterflies and Pandas not being able to breed make sense. She's raised like Katie, Willi and Leia, not allowed to choose.

I get the Holgersons aren't but Zoey is dating a mafia scion. There are rules. And they all know them. The holgersons know exactly what's going on. Also remember that Dylan and Helen go to the Relucia diner.

OH and the Salivans - the old lady at the police station is connected to the warden of Willi's detention/prison?

But if this was the point it would have been better if he reviewed the story with the families wanting them dead but Helen and Dylan oppose and take them under their protection also giving a reason why they are under attack



1) in my native language the two forms of affection have two different words to identify them
2) much more important
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My impression was that the families did want the kids killed, as Scarlet says "if it weren't for a few good souls that night, you two would have been drowned in a bathtub." And Francesco Guiseppe appears to have a grudge with Willi and Leia - they put a balloon over his head, did they mean choking hazard??? Seeing they did lots of illegal/dangerous pranks...

 

[Dr.TSoni]

And Francesco Guiseppe appears to have a grudge with Willi and Leia - they put a balloon over his head, did they mean choking hazard??? Seeing they did lots of illegal/dangerous pranks...

Apparently they were assholes, it's a constant

 

[demonking69:(]

when will we get SG update??

 

[UncleFappy]

when will we get SG update??

 

[Capt_Kirk]

Now that Wiab has had changes, we can expect that those changes flow to SG

Ducky please i need a cold beer ! .
i just finished the WIAB chapter 4 and the Rewrites are very noticeable and some renders look weird .
let's isolate episode 4: the writing is bad plain and simple , it got to a point that it felt like i was watching "airplane the movie" but without the fun.
because the sudden changes in the conversations .
this 2 scenes will give you an idea of what i'm talking about

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I'm guilty of busting this guy tits when talking about the writing but this episode it's a clear regressing on his writing abilities or his heart is not in it anymore.
Now let's talk about the Rewrites , i'll give the guy kudos because you can see that he tried his best to incorporated 'em in a way that were not as distracting alas summer is gone but not all of them were good and created and end up creating some inconsistencies with the story .

on a final note ! , this Mafia Families are so Stupidly Dumb that i wonder if "Harry and LLoyd" are the ones being consulted to come up with their plans.


me after finishing WIAB episode 4

 

[SToyS]

Now that Wiab has had changes, we can expect that those changes flow to SG

I hope you are wrong and the changes will not affect SG. These changes destroyed the whole point of Wiab and can destroy SG. For now SG does not depend on other games and can remain so.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Ducky please i need a cold beer ! .
i just finished the WIAB chapter 4 and the Rewrites are very noticeable and some renders look weird .
let's isolate episode 4: the writing is bad plain and simple , it got to a point that it felt like i was watching "airplane the movie" but without the fun.
because the sudden changes in the conversations .
this 2 scenes will give you an idea of what i'm talking about

You must be registered to see the links

You must be registered to see the links

I'm guilty of busting this guy tits when talking about the writing but this episode it's a clear regressing on his writing abilities or his heart is not in it anymore.
Now let's talk about the Rewrites , i'll give the guy kudos because you can see that he tried his best to incorporated 'em in a way that were not as distracting alas summer is gone but not all of them were good and created and end up creating some inconsistencies with the story .

on a final note ! , this Mafia Families are so Stupidly Dumb that i wonder if "Harry and LLoyd" are the ones being consulted to come up with their plans.
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me after finishing WIAB episode 4
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I enjoyed it and 100% you'll enjoy a nice cold beer

Two good things that are different.

Yes, the writing is clumsy in WiaB still. But I can see it working in it's current form and extending to SG without issues now. It's not the same story of course, that ship has sailed (have another cold one) but if I just play what's in front of me, not what I remember, it makes sense to me. Especially when the same mob rules issues are in pretty much every mob game on this site. There's one in particular, that I won't name, but yeah. I can follow it.

By the time SG S2Ch1 has released, we'll likely have forgotten this conversation, but you'll still enjoy cold beers and I'll be drinking coffee. THere's only good things about this situation

 

[RNasc4444]

Ocean killed Wiab by removing incest and he'll do the same here.

Don't be silly. Incest or lack thereof didn't kill WiAB and won't kill SG. The braindead writing and dogshit plotlines did/will.

 

[BobTheDuck]

I hope you are wrong and the changes will not affect SG. These changes destroyed the whole point of Wiab and can destroy SG. For now SG does not depend on other games and can remain so.

SG already was sanitised. The Wiab changes fit hand in glove with it, and there's so many connections, even mentions of Marla in WiaB. So I think it will have the same logic. Summer's parents disliking Nika now has a new meaning - Summer and Elsa are from a mob family too. Sasha's avoidance of men and constant surveillance because she's also being saved for alliances mayb.. etc.

Now though, it's possible for Nika to be Willi and Leias son.

 

[ziotoni]

Is there any estimated render count for the release?

 

[Crashbullet]

I don’t think Noji, Amber, Claire, are mafia. Do you?

And now I'm sure of it, that everything there is a mafia and I'm not sure of anything else, everything we knew about these games was thrown into the trash by one writer of the "wind of winter" of the universal ocean.

 

[RNasc4444]

And now I'm sure of it, that everything there is a mafia and I'm not sure of anything else, everything we knew about these games was thrown into the trash by one writer of the "wind of winter" of the universal ocean.

The same way we still use "Space Magic" to justify the pile of moronic garbage that was the ending of ME3 we will from now on use "Mafia Rules" to justify all the retarded shit that will seep into SG from the sewage that WiAB has become.

 

[BobTheDuck]

The same way we still use "Space Magic" to justify the pile of moronic garbage that was the ending of ME3 we will from now on use "Mafia Rules" to justify all the retarded shit that will seep into SG from the sewage that WiAB has become.

Nice sig there, I see it

 

[The Krogan Dude]

The same way we still use "Space Magic" to justify the pile of moronic garbage that was the ending of ME3

 

[RNasc4444]

Nice sig there, I see it

I haven't actually realized how annoying it is to not have reactions before the WiAB update dropped yesterday. Having to reply to engage with another user is so fucking dumb.

Thanks! I was inspired by the recent italian mafia motifs and for some reason my brain went to Ezio Auditore and AC

 

[BobTheDuck]

I haven't actually realized how annoying it is to not have reactions before the WiAB update dropped yesterday. Having to reply to engage with another user is so fucking dumb.

Thanks! I was inspired by the recent italian mafia motifs and for some reason my brain went to Ezio Auditore and AC

Well, it's not the worst reference, and I get your point. I think for you, be prepared that Nami, Sasha and Summer are most likely untouchable because of mafia connections in the same way that Willi's not supposed to have anything going on with a Zane or a Pedersoli. That's the only conclusion I can come up with for the race against impossible odds. Remember Nika talking about an uncle?

 

[Crashbullet]

Remember Nika talking about an uncle?

I wrote that Uncle Nicky couldn't have been Zane, because MC would have known his last name, and when Aya appeared, he would have added 2+2, and now it's obvious that it was William (insert the Italian last name)

 

[X2JZcf]

Is there any estimated render count for the release?

8000+

 

[BobTheDuck]

I wrote that Uncle Nicky couldn't have been Zane, because MC would have known his last name, and when Aya appeared, he would have added 2+2, and now it's obvious that it was William (insert the Italian last name)

But who said the uncle introduced with the family name? In eastern europe people calling their elders uncle is common enough in any case. And Nika could be a Zane now, but might also be someone else entirely, a whole different Romeo to Juliet families business. Nika might well be a Grimaldi for all we know. The thing is now this is certainly a strong posibility, and we saw Ocean reworked the script in Ch 1-3 of WiaB to accomodate, without changing renders, he can easily do it to SG.