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Until the last update of WIAB, it was a crime story about a lost son finally returning home with his fiance, trying to solve some mysteries and right some things he did wrong. The story so far, the character interactions and relations fitted really well.
Now following the new update, WIAB´s story is ruined. Since Ocean wanted to keep several characters LIs no matter what, but also wanted to not run into an incest witch hunt again, he changed everything and not for the better. The plot and logic holes now present make Eurasia look small with a dressing of ultra-stupid "MAFIA did it all" on top of it. It is rare I am so disappointed by a game which had such potential. I am as angry as Tom in the outro part of that classic show (around 1:10) and with Udo Jürgens´sarcastic and legendary song "Vielen Dank für die Blumen" playing (only the German version with this far better fitting song, listen the full version of the song in another video), you´d like to do what Tom does.
As for SG, Nami/Cheeto was MC´s sister from the start, but hidden. I think you do not need to try twice to know that Ocean will certainly ruin it here too, since he cannot keep Nami as sister.
Wait a sec, in my game, Cheeto was introduced as ROOMATE bro, not a sister. there're not a single hint that tell cheeto is a sister, they just happen to be taking cared by Noji.

And again, its true, that WIAB link is quite clear regarding relations, but since i played WIAB first and then SG because i found that its shared same world but different timeline, after playing SG, it makes me confused with the plot HAHAHAHA
 

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Wait a sec, in my game, Cheeto was introduced as ROOMATE bro, not a sister. there're not a single hint that tell cheeto is a sister, they just happen to be taking cared by Noji.
On at least two occasions, they ask Nika why Nami has red hair while Nika has black hair, a strange question to ask a "friend."
A relationship between Nami and Nika would be "forbidden."
Finally, when they ask if they're together, Nami's reaction makes more sense if someone is confusing a brother with a boyfriend than a roommate with a boyfriend.
 

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Wait a sec, in my game, Cheeto was introduced as ROOMATE bro, not a sister. there're not a single hint that tell cheeto is a sister, they just happen to be taking cared by Noji.
That is the hidden part from rewriting already done, in the first two versions of SG it was very clear that Nami and Nika are siblings and even in the early rewrites it peaks through. e.g. The constant questions about Nami´s red hair, which would be completely superfluous if they were just roomies. Their reactions to some questions and assumptions by others make no sense for roommates, only for real siblings.
 

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yoo ladies and gentlemeno is this game deserve to be tasted by this highly handsome man ? and the most important thing is there any humor there ? or just korean like drama ?
 

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yoo ladies and gentlemeno is this game deserve to be tasted by this highly handsome man ? and the most important thing is there any humor there ? or just korean like drama ?
Try it out and make your own opinion. It is less a Korean or Japanese Dorama, but the developer´s plotline decisions are a major drama all right. Just read a couple pages of posts. :)
 
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8k renders in 1 update... there must be a catch...

Also, all renders are in 4k? How many of us have 4k monitors?
Developers and DAZ3D artists have been using 4K while rendering in iRay for years, because using 4K resolution for rendering just gives considerably better looking results. Until recently most 4K rendering game devs downsized all their 4K renders to FHD for the games to keep the download size down. Because these downsized 4K renders are still looking better than those originally rendered in FHD.
Ocean is one of these developers. All the renders in the re-works and finally the whole season 1 were rendered in 4K and downsized to FHD, except maybe cinematics, I think.

A few devs have already stopped downsizing their 4K originals, Ocean also decided to release S2 in original 4K and is now also rendering all cinematics in 4K.

Yes, the size of the next release is going to be insane. Those with poor internet connections and tightly stuffed hard drives are likely going to wait for our game compressors to downsize and re-compress renders and videos to make it manageable.
 
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That is the hidden part from rewriting already done, in the first two versions of SG it was very clear that Nami and Nika are siblings and even in the early rewrites it peaks through. e.g. The constant questions about Nami´s red hair, which would be completely superfluous if they were just roomies. Their reactions to some questions and assumptions by others make no sense for roommates, only for real siblings.
oh yeah i tried the earlier version of SG, its clearly that Noji last name is Cyrus, same as Nika and Nami, and of course they're sibling LMAO
 
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Developers and DAZ3D artists have been using 4K while rendering in iRay for years, because using 4K resolution for rendering just gives considerably better looking results. Until recently most 4K rendering game devs downsized all their 4K renders to FHD for the games to keep the download size down. Because these downsized 4K renders are still looking better than those originally rendered in FHD.
Ocean is one of these developers. All the renders in the re-works and finally the whole season 1 were rendered in 4K and downsized to FHD, except maybe cinematics, I think.

A few devs have already stopped downsizing their 4K originals, Ocean also decided to release S2 in original 4K and is now also rendering all cinematics in 4K.

Yes, the size of the next release is going to be insane. Those with poor internet connections and tightly stuffed hard drives are likely going to wait for our game compressors to downsize and re-compress renders and videos to make it manageable.
Ocean should provide a mail-in service. For a fee, he will send the update via pony express on 6,480 floppy disks to those that cannot download.
 

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this game is starting to feel like Star Citizen never getting released always need to add more
 

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Ocean is one of these developers. All the renders in the re-works and finally the whole season 1 were rendered in 4K and downsized to FHD
I don't want to offend you, but I seriously doubt your words. Many people compress 4k images and make FHD out of them to improve the quality of renders. This primarily helps to get rid of noise that is clearly visible on a dark background. But the problem is that Ocean stopped working with light settings and all his renders became very dark. Therefore, there was a lot of noise in his renders and the quality dropped significantly. This is clearly visible if you compare old and new chapters in season 1. This is also visible in his renders from the logs.
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this game is starting to feel like Star Citizen never getting released always need to add more
ok now you're Just BEING A D!K with that silly post! Do you even know
just how long it's been with Star Citizen? People have passed away waiting 13 years or more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......just GTFO of here! :ROFLMAO:
And this is from someone who bitches all the time with just how long it takes with this game lol!
 
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But is that all Oceanlab's AVN's really is just nice renders and nice music ? what about the Storys of WiaB and Summer's Gone both games storys have gone through so much change over the last 6 years what they once was which made some of us fans the rest don't know what the old games was like all they see is the new versions. Yeah the renders are great to look at but if the story behind the great renders is fucked up and doesn't make sense then the nice renders means nothing if you can't tell a story as a Dev and your story is a far cry from what it once was and the big question is how much more changes will come in the future.:unsure:
 

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But is that all Oceanlab's AVN's really is just nice renders and nice music ? what about the Storys of WiaB and Summer's Gone both games storys have gone through so much change over the last 6 years what they once was which made some of us fans the rest don't know what the old games was like all they see is the new versions. Yeah the renders are great to look at but if the story behind the great renders is fucked up and doesn't make sense then the nice renders means nothing if you can't tell a story as a Dev and your story is a far cry from what it once was and the big question is how much more changes will come in the future.:unsure:
What of the story was changed?
 
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What of the story was changed?
Well from what i can remember the Scene were Nami was watching porn at home and i believe Nika caught her and the Scene with the teacher running over Vic and Nika saying he sould end Vic and the teacher she pointed a gun at Nika and him taking it from her and then you are given a choice to shoot her, And i know people remember when we had dark as a path in the game.
 
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Well from what i can remember the Scene were Nami was watching porn at home and i believe Nika caught her and the Scene with the teacher running over Vic and Nika saying he sould end Vic and the teacher she pointed a gun at Nika and him taking it from her and then you are given a choice to shoot her, And i know people remember when we had dark as a path in the game.
That's it? The gun scene didn't make any sense, and the thing with Nami, you have Germany to blame for.
And yes, It's unfortunate that the dark path was removed, i liked it too, but the game was barely in the prologue when it was done so not much was lost.

Then, I'd like you to remember that we have currently multiple groups, companies, and even Govt who are at war with “harmful content” and that Ocean already paid the price when his WIAB patreon was nuked.

So 2 choices: Either tone down some of the aspect of the game (unfortunate) or keep it like it was and face the consequences (getting banned and nuked out of the internet).
 

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That's it? The gun scene didn't make any sense, and the thing with Nami, you have Germany to blame for.
And yes, It's unfortunate that the dark path was removed, i liked it too, but the game was barely in the prologue when it was done so not much was lost.

Then, I'd like you to remember that we have currently multiple groups, companies, and even Govt who are at war with “harmful content” and that Ocean already paid the price when his WIAB patreon was nuked.

So 2 choices: Either tone down some of the aspect of the game (unfortunate) or keep it like it was and face the consequences (getting banned and nuked out of the internet).
I feel as time moves forward the Censorship will be worse as it has come the last several years already. Goverments put pressure on companies and want to control content creators thinking that we fans will just give up and stop wanting such content from our games we play. But it just makes us want it more so fan made patches will be in more demand as time goes on to avoid the censorship.
 
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