Penfold Mole

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You are wrong, Ocean did not do low lighting from the start.
Am I now, really?

Remember, I've been following this game and thread since my very first post here from January 2020.
I know that there were some attempts to make good looking renders with low lighting since the very beginning. It was one of the things that caught my eye and made me follow this game after all!

He and even Regium made plenty of low lighting scenes in the original chapter 2, chapter 1 and even the prologue:
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Most renders were quite plain and basic though and even these low lighting sets weren't as good as the newer ones, either.
Most renders from chapter 2 had few little shadows and hard clinical looking flood lights everywhere. Clearly a beginners work with mostly default lighting of the environmental or architectural assets.
You can see for yourself if you watch chapters 3 and 3.5, Ocean did not remake them and there is no low lighting there.

It was in chapter 5 and in the remake for Steam (chapters 1 and 2) that many renders with low lighting appeared
Literally, the very first render in chapter 3 is this one :sneaky:

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And there are plenty more in both ch3 and 3.5.
I'm not going to post them here though. I believe I made my point with the first one already.
Time for you to make yours, what exactly are you talking about and where exactly am I wrong. I believe I already did plenty to prove my point and you have only talked about yours.

By the way, the author of The Grey Dream started doing low lighting renders earlier than Ocean, so this is probably his calling card.
As I already showed you, Ocean started with low lighting set ups since the very beginning, he just improved his skills gradually and got much better later on.

What a coincidence, you and I are colleagues, I am also into photography. I completely agree with you, Ocean has a lot of good and excellent renders, he is a master at this. Unfortunately, Ocean absolutely does not know how to make renders with low light. When I look at such renders, I do not understand what Ocean wants to show us by making the image barely distinguishable. I heard that he is so veiledly protesting about the power outages in Germany.(old joke)
I believe that someone famous said something like "Art is the skill to know what not to show" or something similar. The things you cannot see might sometimes be more important than the ones you can.
I quite like Oceans recent work, especially the low lighting renders, and I don't find them so bad at all. So I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. I also like similar artsy-fartsy photos with low lighting that leaves a lot to the imagination, so there you go.

Or maybe your monitor is simply too dark?
My monitor is calibrated (I bought a cheapo calibrator without the environment lighting sensor first, wasn't happy with the results and bought a better one later), since I'm using it for post-processing my photos. Unless yours is too, this could be the reason.

You guessed wrong, I didn’t download them from this site.
Wherever you downloaded them from, either uploading them here created blobs in the dark areas or if they were there before, then they were created before that somewhere else. Wherever they came from, they are a sign of lossy compression, not low quality rendering. You'll get similar results compressing photos or totally smooth gradients on lossy compressors with heavy compression.
I believe I also noticed some jpg artifacts around some dark areas there, which I haven't noticed in pure avif compressed images never been compressed to jpg before.
 
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Hi, I'm excited to try this game but when I try to unzip it, the unzipper says that the file is corrupted/in a wrong format. What can I do to fix this? I'm on mac sequoia 15.5 and here is the list of what I have done
- md5sum of the download and the gofile upload are the same, which suggests that the file was downloaded correctly. output:
% md5sum SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip
06a5a691fc09fb07f0fd5a69caeee774 SummersGone_Season1_Steam-pc_UPDATED.zip
- unzip using mac archive utility
- try using unzip file_name and tar -xf file_name in terminal.

Thank you in advance!
 

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Time for you to make yours, what exactly are you talking about and where exactly am I wrong. I believe I already did plenty to prove my point and you have only talked about yours.
This topic is interesting and can be discussed for a long time, but I'd better show you the difference between low light.

Since you posted old Ocean renders, I'll use them. I'll post them below.
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Here are new renders of Ocean that he made in the rework for Steam. Of course, Ocean has beautiful renders with low lighting, but there are very few of them and now he prefers to make these.
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Here are the renders of Regium.I love how the old Vic looks.
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Here are renders of TheGrey.
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I think the difference is obvious.
 

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This topic is interesting and can be discussed for a long time, but I'd better show you the difference between low light.

Since you posted old Ocean renders, I'll use them. I'll post them below.

Here are new renders of Ocean that he made in the rework for Steam. Of course, Ocean has beautiful renders with low lighting, but there are very few of them and now he prefers to make these.
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Here are the renders of Regium.I love how the old Vic looks.
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Here are renders of TheGrey.
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I think the difference is obvious.
Those weren't the Regium renders, sorry. Those were the first remake of ch1 by Ocean, when he first started the remake around Ch3/3.5 or whenever it was. So you've just said you really like Ocean's renders, not Regium's.

Here's from the old Regium version, Regium left after Ch1, before Ch2 was finished:
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What you're really saying is that you don't like modern Ocean's aesthetic choices. I'm personally fine with them. I'm not playing games to see how detailed the backdrop looks - for me everything should focus on the character and the mood. But everyone values different things.
 

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Those weren't the Regium renders, sorry. Those were the first remake of ch1 by Ocean, when he first started the remake around Ch3/3.5 or whenever it was. So you've just said you really like Ocean's renders, not Regium's.

Here's from the old Regium version, Regium left after Ch1, before Ch2 was finished:
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What you're really saying is that you don't like modern Ocean's aesthetic choices. I'm personally fine with them. I'm not playing games to see how detailed the backdrop looks - for me everything should focus on the character and the mood. But everyone values different things.
I genuinely think he just doesn't like them for the sake of not liking them and find something to complain about. He even takes Ocean's old renders and attribute them to Regium.
 

BobTheDuck

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out of topic but is regium quit working with ocean to make his own VN or he just gone like a wind?
Well, he quit working on the script that Ocean gave him after one chapter, so chances are slim. Regium started Ch2, but Ocean had to finish it alone, and was doing most of the renders. That suggests to me Regium wasn't interested in development or the process.
 
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SToyS

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Those weren't the Regium renders, sorry. Those were the first remake of ch1 by Ocean, when he first started the remake around Ch3/3.5 or whenever it was. So you've just said you really like Ocean's renders, not Regium's.

Here's from the old Regium version, Regium left after Ch1, before Ch2 was finished:
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What you're really saying is that you don't like modern Ocean's aesthetic choices. I'm personally fine with them. I'm not playing games to see how detailed the backdrop looks - for me everything should focus on the character and the mood. But everyone values different things.
You probably didn't pay attention, this is chapter 1 and there is the old model of Vic that was originally there. Ocean doesn't like the old Vic and when he started to remake chapter 1 he inserted the new model of Vic.

Here are the old and new Vic models. Can you see the difference?
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P.S. The old model was drawn by Regium, the new model was drawn by Ocean.
 
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Well, he quit working on the script that Ocean gave him after one chapter, so chances are slim. Regium started Ch2, but Ocean had to finish it alone, and was doing most of the renders. That suggests to me Regium wasn't interested in development or the process.
That's not exactly how it happened. Regium had most of chapter two done, but due to “problems” in his life, he couldn't finish it in a reasonable amount of time. That's when Ocean started rendering, and re-rendering, and re-rendering some more, until he changed almost everything that had already been done in chapter 2. (Among the changes was also the physical change of some characters.) That's when Regium disappeared. As I recall reading, he devoted himself 100% to his studies and withdrew completely from development.
 
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