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Penfold Mole

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SToyS said:
By the way, is anyone confused by what's written here? People are starting to complain that Ocean is writing complete nonsense again. They say a video can't possibly take that long to render; it takes half a day at most. I don't know if this is true or not. But even I understood the second complaint. It says that Ocean used to spend 4 minutes per render, and a video has 150 frames, so it takes 600 minutes or 10 hours to render the entire video, not 50 hours as Ocean claims. To me, this sounds logical. They also say there are no issues with GPU heating. Those who do rendering undervolt their GPUs, and everyone knows it.
I made a small selection of complaints about Ocean's log.
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Even if you are correct about Ocean spending 4 minutes per frame render in the past (I don't remember and am not obsessed about it enough to check), you are forgetting an eency-weency fact that he was rendering HD videos back then. Now everything is in 4K (as you even quoted yourself).
4 times more pixels to render and 4K videos to encode instead of HD makes 45-hour or longer sessions totally plausible if you are correct about HD videos taking about 10 hours :sneaky:
 
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Penfold Mole said:
Even if you are correct about Ocean spending 4 minutes per frame render in the past (I don't remember and am not obsessed about it enough to check), you are forgetting an eency-weency fact that he was rendering HD videos back then. Now everything is in 4K (as you even quoted yourself).
4 times more pixels to render and 4K videos to encode instead of HD makes 45-hour or longer sessions totally plausible if you are correct about HD videos taking about 10 hours :sneaky:
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As far as I understand, the 4-minute time is taken from a log where Ocean compares the rendering time of the old and new workstations, all renders in 4K.
You are right about one thing, the rendering time there is completely different, because it was just a part of a larger message. The point was that even a beginner would understand that Ocean was lying if they multiplied the rendering time of one frame by the number of renders in the animation (apparently, this was intended for people like me). Although, as far as I understand, doing that is also wrong. Then there was a bunch of technical information that I don't understand.
At the end, it said that the rendering time of 150 images is not the same as the rendering time of an animation consisting of 150 frames. As far as I understand, the difference here is that when an image is rendered, it is rendered completely. But when an animation is rendered, only the first frame is rendered completely, because the next frame is practically the same with minor changes, and only those changes are rendered in it. Therefore, if it took 10 hours to render 150 images, then the time for an animation of 150 frames will be several times less. Although, perhaps I misunderstood something.
 
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Since I don't know which log from when did you take that information from or what kind of data did it describe, I can't really say how right, wrong or accurate you are, nor do I care enough to try to search for the source of your information about Oceans hardware and render times if you don't refer to it yourself as a proof of what you're trying to show.

And yes, rendering animations takes less time per frame in average than it takes to render separate static images. Rendering separate images takes him a lot more than 4 minutes per scene, especially if you take scene loading times into account.

What I also do know for sure is that render times of different scene set ups can differ quite a lot, one can be several times faster or slower than another, depending on the scene complexity. If Ocean says that one of the current animations/cinematics in his render queue takes him 40 hours to render, then whatever, it probably does now, since the complexity of his scenes seems to grow with every upgrade of his hardware and he keeps pushing it.
Some old data about rendering a different scene doesn't say much about how long it takes to render a new one, anyway.

Unlike you, I am not obsessed about proving that Ocean is wasting time on lying about his stats.

Mods are going to delete this discussion according to General Rules #2.7 sooner or later anyway.
 
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If he is not going to get the 16 rating for Steam release anyways, then he could stop blue balling Nika forever and just let him fuck Bella already. The poor girl was seconds away from humping the furniture last update...
 
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