VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

Well, I played the last chapter of Wiab too, and I wasn't very fond of it, but it's true that my main game is this one, Summer's Gone, and, even with aaaall the remakes and changes I still liking it. I know we could speak about SG watching the work he has donde with Wiab, but I don't think a "bad" chapter on one game could implies a bad chapter in the other. I have not seen any game with all seasons being good, there is always a bad season or chapter.

I don't think this new chapter-chapters are going to be bad. The guy is talented, just watching the renders in the game I can appreciate his work, but this new season is going to be absolutely important for him, the las rework pissed of a lot of people (maybe me too, even if I understand the reason), and he made a promise some time ago and I'm not going to forget it. This season two it's going to make us happy, because it's supossely to have sex scenes, maybe not SEX, but oral and stuff, if he is a man of his word, must have some of those.


Ocean could try to sell this with a 16+ rating, but the thing is, he promised with the last rework that this new season would include sex scenes. I still believe in that.

One of his ways to calm people down after the rework — when he deleted the bath scene with Nami — was by saying that the good stuff would come in this season, that it would be more mature and all that...
I know the game is about healing, but a promise is a promise. He can throw away the release dates, but this is important.



Yep, for me too. Seems good content.

I suppose he is not going to release the three chapters at the same time right? I mean, after all this time waiting it would be good but, if he is intelligent he could release one chapter each month, or something.

Anyway I don't want to give him ideas , if he releases three chapters at once better.

I'll leave alone speculations about how WiaB carries into this until we'v seen the next 3 chapters. There's scenes with Katie, so we'll hear more about her. Hopefully we get the Ayua fight scene, but if not, there's still heaps of scenes with her, I suspect we'll find out more. Emilio is still on Nika's radar for info, so the connections to WiaB will make some sense. How well Ocean connects the two games...well, we'll see. He might keep that stuff at arms length for a while to keep SG focused on Nika's trauma and the the healing theme. I think that would be wise, as he can't guarantee that every SG play will want to play WiaB.

As far as sex scenes, well this season is I think going to be 8 chapters? Someone will know. So I doubt there will be much in the first 3. The pacing would be wrong - Nika gos from no boner to raging hormones in a day? We've already seen teaser renders of Nika and Nami, so there will be that scene, but if there's much more than women trying to get a rise out of NIka in the first 3 chapters, I really don't know. Over the course of the season, I suspect we'll have a bunch of things, but I doubt we'll get any actual sex, mainly just 18+ lewd acts, rather than 16+ innuendo.

The release as far as I can tell will be 3 chapters, with each following chapter released as DLC on Steam. I think Ocean knows not to draw it out by dividing it into 3 releases - if he was going to do that, we should've had S2 Ch1 10 months ago and I'm sure people will let him know that.

 

[flaviopaganini]

Then I don't understand why the hell this is still AVN and not some variation of a "game for teens".

In this case, he should switch to the genre of ordinary short stories/novel and not f&ck people's brains for years. He understands perfectly well what kind of audience he has and what they expect. This does not mean that we are here just for one hand, but the genre implies the presence of such content.

I think he’s going to try to get the lowest possible age rating in each country to reach a larger audience. So I’m not sure he’ll take the risk of making something in the adult visual novel category. Otherwise, the audience from the first season might end up being unable to play the second one, since in Brazil his game is rated 14+.

 

[O1duvai]

I think he’s going to try to get the lowest possible age rating in each country to reach a larger audience. So I’m not sure he’ll take the risk of making something in the adult visual novel category. Otherwise, the audience from the first season might end up being unable to play the second one, since in Brazil his game is rated 14+.

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We all know where we can download such games. From the obvious.

If he wants to capture a “BIG” audience by lowering the rating and cutting out everything “adult”, then this person needs to have his head treated. I heard something about Chinese game developers and their love for children's age ratings. Well, 12+. So, most of the audience playing their games with such a rating is 30 years old on average.

Children and teenagers are not able to pay. If he's doing this, then he's doing absolute bullshit.

 

[flaviopaganini]

We all know where we can download such games. From the obvious.

If he wants to capture a “BIG” audience by lowering the rating and cutting out everything “adult”, then this person needs to have his head treated. I heard something about Chinese game developers and their love for children's age ratings. Well, 12+. So, most of the audience playing their games with such a rating is 30 years old on average.

Children and teenagers are not able to pay. If he's doing this, then he's doing absolute bullshit.

He can do what some other games do, release the 18+ content as a DLC. That way, he can still publish his game in restricted markets, and players over 18 can download that DLC.

 

[O1duvai]

He can do what some other games do, release the 18+ content as a DLC. That way, he can still publish his game in restricted markets, and players over 18 can download that DLC.

If you release DLC with 18+ content, the game itself will receive exactly the same. I don’t remember AVN games in which pieces of scenes/text/plot were literally cut out, right from the middle, and added as separate DLC for 20 bucks under the guise of “new gaming experience”.

Yes, it's all his business and his game. This is a sad moment. I'm sure that game will become... Softer, as it were. Sh&t for children? In this version. In this case, this is literally a different genre and this topic can be labeled “abandoned”.

 

[JiiEf]

And I feel the opposite, because he's turned virtually every other one into a mega-titty monstrosity. That might work for someone who hasn't had experience with real tits in hand before, but it's tiring and grotesque at such a degree.

Plenty of false suppositions in that post, buddy.

Regards,

Team Bella and Zara

 

[LHDLLB]

And I feel the opposite, because he's turned virtually every other one into a mega-titty monstrosity. That might work for someone who hasn't had experience with real tits in hand before, but it's tiring and grotesque at such a degree.

My god, you guys are okay ? Like yeah, not fan of anime sized titties and I like the meme of Ocean turn every character a ballon or a greek god but like grotesque ? People like Mila exist, I agree that Mila had awfull models in S1 but Mila is not a horny teenager dream, women with big breast exist, and Ch5 Mila is hardly grotesque or unbelieavable. Same goes with the aurelas I can't understand this tread fixiation on them, yeah some people get a bigger aurela and Ocean seems found of them but what is the deal like having a "too" big aurela is like a sin ? I understand prefereces and I sure has hell have mines, is not like I even disagree, but the level of obssession that I see here sometimes scares me.

 

[alanrock]

It's strange to hear this from someone who lives on a porn site forum.

There's nothing strange about the fact that I like a good game, Alex. You're not here for pornography either .... you have other things you want to do.

 

[Radon-]

Ocean wrote that he wants to sell Season 2 on Steam with a 16+ rating. This means there will be no sex scenes in the game.

Any source on that? I only recall 16+ being mentioned with regards to S1.

 

[Dark Quean Olivia]

Any source on that? I only recall 16+ being mentioned with regards to S1.

Alex can never give sources for anything 'he claims'....

 

[Kirito Kazuga]

so ocean decided to remove incest from both his games just cuz of steam?....

 

[Ilhares]

so ocean decided to remove incest from both his games just cuz of steam?....

It's not really Steam, I'm pretty sure there's a few 'cesty games still there. It's more the prudish payment processors trying to impose morality on the world again.

 

[O1duvai]

It's not really Steam, I'm pretty sure there's a few 'cesty games still there. It's more the prudish payment processors trying to impose morality on the world again.

There is a little secret that everyone knows (and Ocean, I’m sure, too) and nothing can be done about it. No way. If only we ban AVN as a genre.
I don't believe that a person who has been f&cking with one game for decades hasn't thought of what people do right away in their first projects, made with a couple of bucks from school lunch.

RENAMING.

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If he decided to remove incest and chose as an argument “well, you see, it’s prohibited,” then this is his own, idiotic decision. The source of the example is on both Steam and Patreon. And the platform will not be able to charge a game with such mechanics for something that, in fact, is not in it, because you, PLAYER, can put the word “trans” or “helicopter” in there, and it won’t work out conveniently.
Naturally, we understand that corporations and states won’t give a sh&t if they want, but so far this has not happened..

We all know how "sterile" games end. They become sh&t.

 

[JiiEf]

Any source on that? I only recall 16+ being mentioned with regards to S1.

This was my recollection as well.

 

[Ilhares]

We all know how "sterile" games end. They become sh&t.

I just don't even understand why they bother. They (the card companies, et al.) are more than happy to take money from the porn industry in general. You can literally use your cards at certain brothels. It's just ridiculous.

 

[RNasc4444]

My god, you guys are okay ? Like yeah, not fan of anime sized titties and I like the meme of Ocean turn every character a ballon or a greek god but like grotesque ? People like Mila exist, I agree that Mila had awfull models in S1 but Mila is not a horny teenager dream, women with big breast exist, and Ch5 Mila is hardly grotesque or unbelieavable. Same goes with the aurelas I can't understand this tread fixiation on them, yeah some people get a bigger aurela and Ocean seems found of them but what is the deal like having a "too" big aurela is like a sin ? I understand prefereces and I sure has hell have mines, is not like I even disagree, but the level of obssession that I see here sometimes scares me.

I have to push back on several things you mentioned.

First of all "grotesque" is a more than apt description of what several of Ocean's characters are to me. Namely Leia, Helen, Mila, Dana, Karen, Nadia and a couple of gals from the book club. Also SG used to have a large cast of female characters with distinct and varied physical features and traits to please a wide array of tastes. I don't find the "bimbofication" funny or enjoyable in any way. It just kills the diversity in female bodies.

Second, I would like to dispute the "people like Mila exist". No they don't. No woman can have that much meat on their bones while being that tight and perky. Not naturally at least. Gravity exists. Large tits sag. Period. Those features are usually also accompanied by strecth marks and cellulite. I clown her circus freak body precisely because there is nothing natural about it.

I don't view it as obsession. It's merely higher standards. I would never hold any real woman to the standards I see in an AVN character. That would be mental. I get to be picky about fictitious women precisely because they can easily be molded into an idealized vision of beauty.

All in all I just think you fail to grasp how disgusting some of these features can appear to someone whose tastes differ from your own. But I can help you get an idea. Try to imagine a 90 year old woman naked. A dried up raisin in the shape of a woman with flabby skin drooping from their withered flesh and brittle bones. Tits flat and sagging below the waist. Get the picture? Good. Now think about how you feel looking at that dreadful sight. That guilty feeling of disgust, repugnance and revulsion is comparable to what I feel when I look at Mila naked or Leia topless.

Now is it a sin? Is it wrong? No. Do I want to see that shit? FUCK NO!

Hope that helps

 

[Ray_D]

When Ocean starts a third game, I’d like for the girl forced on me to not be the absolutely least-endowed one in the game.

No, the two he already has are enough.

First rule of Ocean topics, never give Ocean ideas.

That would be true, but we all know that Ocean only listens to Ocean's ideas.

Tomorrow, November 13th, will mark a year and a half since the last update, which means... "abandoned." It's just a label, albeit a rather disappointing one.

The game will be abandoned, and we will never know what's happen or where is summer.

Man, who gives a shit about summer at this point? Her only purpose for existing is to keep Nika's dick dead.

 

[SToyS]

Ocean could try to sell this with a 16+ rating, but the thing is, he promised with the last rework that this new season would include sex scenes. I still believe in that.

I think exactly the same as you and I also hope that Ocean will keep his word.

 

[SToyS]

Any source on that? I only recall 16+ being mentioned with regards to S1.

This is an old discussion that started late last year when Ocean promised to release the game, just like he does now, but then broke his promise. I don't remember exactly why subscribers came to this conclusion; too much time has passed.

I can come up with at least three possible explanations for why subscribers think there won't be any sex in the update.
1. After numerous rewrites, Ocean doesn't know how to continue the story.
2. Ocean is cowardly and afraid of being banned from Steam, even though sex is not prohibited there, unlike incest. Incidentally, Ocean began to be accused of cowardice after the censorship of Season 1. Few believed the excuses about expanding the audience, because it's stupid to censor a game for an audience that doesn't have money.
3. Ocean was asked on Discord if there would be sex in the update, but he ignored all these questions.

 

[BigMal235]

When Ocean starts a third game, I’d like for the girl forced on me to not be the absolutely least-endowed one in the game.

I think that in the third game you supposed to play a female MC, so your wish may not be granted. Not that I believe we ever get to see the third game