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Take it from someone who's been living with dysthymia for the past 20 years or so... Nika is easily the most relatable MC I've seen in one of these games. From his sour and gruff demeanour, the way he doesn't emote, the recurring negative thoughts, behavior ranging from complete lack of energy to violent outbursts, thinking about what you should be feeling but not actually feeling it... When playing SG, I felt more than once like I was inserted into the game. Only I never had someone like Nami in my life.

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It's such a breath of fresh air to play as a troubled, introverted character rather than the buff, outgoing or straight-up creepy dudes you normally see as protagonists.

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I can understand why many might have trouble connecting to him; admittedly, people with this condition are difficult to deal with and SG shows this perfectly. In fact, I'll risk saying that the author couldn't have portrayed it so accurately if it wasn't born out of personal experience. If that's the case, I'm both sorry and happy for him: sorry that he had to go through it, and happy that he's doing well enough these days to be able to create such a high quality product.

So yeah, for me supporting SG is more than just supporting a game I like. I feel like it's investing in a broader effort to show that AVNs absolutely are a valid storytelling medium that can cover serious real-life subjects while the sexual stuff lurks in the background.
This is literally why I play and I love this game so much, this feeling of closeness in the emotions of Nika and the fact that each character is alive with a universe with consequences, each one lives his life and it's not because Nika is not there that they stop existing for all that not to mention the new vision seeking to heal, I think that through the game Ocean seeks to send a message to all people in a bad way with each character having their demon to come to end whether it is Bella, Nika for their past see Marla when we learn her story, we also have the issue of disability that will be addressed with Victoria especially if we spend our time with her, we will learn concretely the consequences of becoming a paraplegic and overcome his disabilities without ending up moping, but accepted his past pain to make a strength in the future as the iron that we beat at the forge our character will be forged by his experiences

 
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Re: Acting Lessons.....let me summarize by just saying:

Fuck.
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Game.
Still the worst game I've ever played. Not even close. And I'm not speaking from a technical standpoint, it's a well executed game, but from an enjoyment perspective. There is no game I've enjoyed playing less than AL. Never even finished it. Won't ever touch that crap again. I'd gladly play the 100 worst games on this site back to back to back over replaying AL once.


Back to SG. I'm gonna go with:

1º - Bella
2º - Nami (Hottest model in the game by far, for me, and her loyalty and devotion are such a huge turn on. Will dropkick Bella if Nami asks me to even if I don't want to do it.)
3º - Sasha (Attractive and mysterious. Want to know more.)
4º - Maja (Didn't plan on focusing on anyone else until I saw the Maja rework and her kinkiness in last chapter. Fuck me. She makes my list.)

Don't really care about anyone else. Female cast is WAYYYY too big as is. Even though Ayua is pretty cool and if this were a different type of game I'd be all over Nojiko.
 
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1) Nami - Just presses all my buttons. Perfection.
2) Bella - Wasn't a fan at first but progressing her story and seeing her connect w/ MC, can't help but be a fan.
3) Vanessa - Such a well designed and written character. As Nami and MC said on the bus, she leaves quite the impression.

Zara, Maja, Vic, Nia, Amber are all fantastic in their own right as well, while they may not crack my top 3, they're all fantastic characters and can easily see how they can be favorites.

Mila is the only one I am lukewarm on. Might change if I ever do a Mila only playthrough but nothing about her grabs my attention like the others.

Plenty of unmentioned characters that could turn out to be great as their stories develop, but I'm going to hold off until we get to see more than some beautiful renders to comment.
 

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So ik we're all Nami fans but who's everyone's 2nd/3rd girl?
#1 Nami is Cutie & best waifu material, amazing petite body and dam stunningly beautiful
#2 vicktoria just the sweetest thing ever, she's gorgeous and I have personal bias bc VN girls in wheelchairs are hot...no I don't know why
#3 Bella...hear me out....yes she just looks like one of those hawt bitches....the kind u wanna hatefuck the cunty attitude out of BUT...she is gorgeous visually...her attitude makes her less attractive although she does seem like a ride or die waifu

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I will be a sadboi if Nami doesn't also fall In love with Victoria & demand a throuple, which if I remember how much Nami likes her, this *could* happen >;D
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You got it wrong. It's Bella first and then Nami. ;)(y)
 

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Hello. Anyone knows if "reworking"(changing and adding stuff in first chapters) is finished?
 

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Hello. Anyone knows if "reworking"(changing and adding stuff in first chapters) is finished?
If you really want to play the real definitive version of season 1 I advise you to wait for the release of Chapter 5 Full after its official Steam release I don't think Ocean will come back on it and totally focus on season 2, Because for the moment until the release of chapter 5 he intends to rework chapter 2 and take care of the musical dmca
 

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Still the worst game I've ever played. Not even close. And I'm not speaking from a technical standpoint, it's a well executed game, but from an enjoyment perspective. There is no game I've enjoyed playing less than AL. Never even finished it. Won't ever touch that crap again. I'd gladly play the 100 worst games on this site back to back to back over replaying AL once.


Back to SG. I'm gonna go with:

1º - Bella
2º - Nami (Hottest model in the game by far, for me, and her loyalty and devotion are such a huge turn on. Will dropkick Bella if Nami asks me to even if I don't want to do it.)
3º - Sasha (Attractive and mysterious. Want to know more.)
4º - Maja (Didn't plan on focusing on anyone else until I saw the Maja rework and her kinkiness in last chapter. Fuck me. She makes my list.)

Don't really care about anyone else. Female cast is WAYYYY too big as is. Even though Ayua is pretty cool and if this were a different type of game I'd be all over Nojiko.
It's incredible tough to answer the question about best girl in this game. We have for example Nami ond Bella, for me best characters because they story progression is high(er). They had the most "screen time", doesn't mean there aren't another (potentially) good characters. I like Amber, Sasha and Ayua too. Nojiko is beautiful too. Doesn't mean that she's "mom". I think she could be a good LI, but she isn't in high position in Ocean's eyes. Too bad.
I play non incest games too, but the best are often incest. I'm not a huge fan of incest, but if I would kick incest games out, there are not many left.
 
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At this point in the stories, Ayua is too similar to Miru, who has had much more development and screen time. In a vacuum I might be interested but having played both, Miru is just a more compelling character right now and Ayua's allure suffers as a result.

Yes I am aware they are similar because they are mother/daughter.
 

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It's incredible tough to answer the question about best girl in this game. We have for example Nami ond Bella, for me best characters because they story progression is high(er). They had the most "screen time", doesn't mean there aren't another (potentially) good characters. I like Amber, Sasha and Ayua too. Nojiko is beautiful too. Doesn't mean that she's "mom". I think she could be a good LI, but she isn't in high position in Ocean's eyes. Too bad.
I play non incest games too, but the best are often incest. I'm not a huge fan of incest, but if I would kick incest games out, there are not many left.
In the end it's all up to someone's preference. I've literally crossed out most characters in this game as for one reason or another I have no romantic interest in them. Mila, Nia, Sonya, Vic, Zara, Vanessa, Amber, Marla, Nadia, Kate and the Twins are all crossed out for me no matter where the story takes us. I have no interest in milfs or the teaching staff either. So the ones we know and I'm still open to are Robin, Elsa, Nojiko and Nancy.

I can relate to the incest part though. There are plenty of tags I don't love like incest that are very much present in some of my favorite games.
 
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At this point in the stories, Ayua is too similar to Miru, who has had much more development and screen time. In a vacuum I might be interested but having played both, Miru is just a more compelling character right now and Ayua's allure suffers as a result.

Yes I am aware they are similar because they are mother/daughter.
I like Miru, she's a badass. I hope Ocean leave it so. I saw in few games that being a badass doesn't being exploited, or at all. I mean, character was being shown as badass, but 1-2 updates later there was non of it left. Yes, Ayuo is similar to mommy.
 

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If you really want to play the real definitive version of season 1 I advise you to wait for the release of Chapter 5 Full after its official Steam release I don't think Ocean will come back on it and totally focus on season 2, Because for the moment until the release of chapter 5 he intends to rework chapter 2 and take care of the musical dmca
Ok, thanks for answer. Will wait for chapter 5 than. I have no desire to play it all over again every time.
 
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I've played thru to the end of the current version & would like to share thoughts & opinions.

Victoria: it just me?...I swear to God Victoria's tits have increased from a substantial C to DDs' from 1st meeting to now, maybe she put on a couple pounds since the accident and it all went to her boobs? I'm usually not a big fan of anything over the C cup department But she wears them well
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not to mention her main quality up u til now has been 'sweet & innocent' but the chat she has w/ mc about her being not-so-innocent reveals another layer that makes her even more intriguing!!

Bella: at first I just kinda wanted to punch that resting bitchface smirk off her head...but after spending time interacting she isn't that bad, I have a friend that we insult eachother regularly & I get that vibe from her....she's a buddy you trade insults with, who will have your back regardless of what it involves, who also happens to be a smoking hot blonde you may end up loving and or banging lol

I'm a hedonistic romantic harem lover so I'm on a Nami/Bella/Victoria path & boy what a Cliffhanger that was after that playboy move MC pulls if you like Nami, Wow the feels acting up over here!
 
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Almost all of the LIs have far, far too much BIMBO body going on, so my real list is:
Could not agree more. I get really turned off by the unrealistic or over exaggerated body proportions in this game. I still have Bella as my top 1 but she does not feature in my top 5 most attractive characters in Summer's Gone. It's why I don't find Vic, Mila, Zara or Nadia attractive at all. Seriously did Vic get implants after her accident??!?!!? Wtf is that? Not even gonna go into Mila...she's cute and has a nice personality but the rest of her body turns me off like nothing else.

As someone who favors slim and athletic body types, give me Nami, Robin, Maja or Nojiko every single time. Ayua and Vanessa are ok too but mostly everyone else is either too "plastic" or too "perfect". It really turns me off. Elsa looked good too from the short cameo we got.
 

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Seriously did Vic get implants after her accident??!?!!? Wtf is that?
Ha! I'm not the only one who's noticed, hopefully as she adjusts to whatever her new normal will be with P.T.(God my heart wants to see her walk again!) she drops back a cup size ....

*Hint Hint dev* :ROFLMAO:
 
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