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Senigata

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but they released updates (definitely the pre tech ones and the main story ones at least) after dogeek was gone right? how was this possible if the code was in such a bad state? couldn't they have finished the game more or less using the old code and then do a tech update with a seperate team after it is done (even if the scope got downgraded) while DC and the main team works on a new project?
It was probably 'easy enough' to just slap in the new parts, but the entire thing came crashing down when they wanted to work on the old.

People always say 'but it's just a Ren'py game', but Summertime Saga probably has more shit in than a game of this engine should have. Like mini games, which the engine wasn't really designed for. It's an engine to make text adventures with a couple of branching answers to get different CGs, not sandbox games. I'm guessing it would have needed a serious recoding down the pipeline anyway before it really all came crashing down.
 

D2K

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Don't care about the abandoned tag because it changes nothing, but the fact right after that dropped some people have asap started to shit on a (bad) coder for a 3+X(?) years delay as only reason is just amusing. Some users who code for a living already posted multiple times here they could have literally made everything from scratch. It doesn't fix the fact DC has 0 management skills and his actual coder/coders have no idea about their own job.
they tried to explain why the coding was taking so long by pointing to 10000+ images, like placeholders didn't exist. on top of having an existing working model showing you how things were intended to look and flow. they had many advantages to recreate/refactor the code, but they deemed 3 years to do it too little, when it took just about that much to even get it to the original state.
 

McSlut

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I won't defend his dog shit project management. He ignored the tech debt until it blew up in his face, He sat back and paid people to do work without ever checking to see if they were doing it in a way that wouldn't blow up in his face. He made this bed now he must lie in it.
a bed made out of dollar bills. he had no incentive to check what the coder was doing as long as the money came in and i doubt he's going to take any damage from it. i think someone said STS made more money during the tech update phase then it did while he was doing updates. it's just a huge flaw with the patreon system.

still the dude has some nerve to call his patreons impatient on stream
 

Senigata

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A pathetic excuse for minigames*
They are so bad, even when they're not completely broken, that the game would be better off without em.
Oh, I agree. Never was a big fan. Or the stats for that matter. The latter reminded me too much of the old dating sim flash games.

Sandbox is also eh in my book. If you want to make a sandbox game use another engine. Ren'py is more for heading from scene to scene with a couple of variables. You know, the stuff EvaKiss makes.
 
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a bed made out of dollar bills. he had no incentive to check what the coder was doing as long as the money came in and i doubt he's going to take any damage from it. i think someone said STS made more money during the tech update phase then it did while he was doing updates. it's just a huge flaw with the patreon system.

still the dude has some nerve to call his patreons impatient on stream
Well, he hasn't beaten the master yet. Crowchild(HTH2) is still milking his patreons since like 15 years(2008-today). It could be a similar case on the long way.
 
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volumina-90

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Where's that fucking flower guy shilling the game like crazy on this thread now?

"Ermm actually the abandoned tag do not matter for DC, it won't impact him in any way :geek:"

Few hours before getting the tag we got an announcement from DC himself talking about some testing and release.

Who's laughing now?
 

j4yj4m

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Few hours before getting the tag we got an announcement from DC himself talking about some testing and release.
Well, technically it's just part of DC's monthly summary, which is usually released at the end of the month. I'm not saying this means anything, but it seems like some people seem to get a bit ahead of themselves... in case some will be disappointed when nothing changes afterwards.
 

Deep-Six

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Where's that fucking flower guy shilling the game like crazy on this thread now?

"Ermm actually the abandoned tag do not matter for DC, it won't impact him in any way :geek:"

Few hours before getting the tag we got an announcement from DC himself talking about some testing and release.

Who's laughing now?
If you have been to the recent streams, DC's discord and Patreon posts (where DC actually interacts) they were complaining more than usual lately and IMO that is the main reason why DC is putting another pre-tech update. He could care less about this pirate site, he has interacted here no more than 10 times in all of the thread's existence.

If you actually think he is putting another pre-tech update just so this thread gets the "abandoned" tag removed please let me get some of what you're smoking.
 
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Count Morado

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Where's that fucking flower guy shilling the game like crazy on this thread now?

"Ermm actually the abandoned tag do not matter for DC, it won't impact him in any way :geek:"

Few hours before getting the tag we got an announcement from DC himself talking about some testing and release.

Who's laughing now?
I'm right here.

DC doesn't care about an abandoned flag.

If he did, he would have dropped something BEFORE it got slapped on the thread...

Like j4yj4m mentioned the other day, all he had to do was add one new scene to he current game anytime in the past 18 months to avoid the flag. An Easter special, or anything, like he had done with the 7 pre-tech updated until Oct 31. It didn't even need to be more than a few still images and it would have sufficed.

That ya all think you changed anything continues to show how cloudyheaded some of ya all are.

He's been putting out reports at the end of the month for the past year.
 

Black Orchid

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DC don't give a shit about this site . He will start working when his money flow starts to dry up . Unfortunately i don't see that happening any time soon. Just proves that the World is not a fair place. People with disposable income (who actually has the funds to support a scammer on monthly basis) are so stupid.
and him releasing the announcement of a partial tech update on THE SAME EXACT DAY the game qualifies for the abandoned tag is a complete coincidence right? everything is right there infront of you and yet you still choose to cope.
 

Deep-Six

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and him releasing the announcement of a partial tech update on THE SAME EXACT DAY the game qualifies for the abandoned tag is a complete coincidence right? everything is right there infront of you and yet you still choose to cope.
Why do it NOW after the tag was put in place instead of anytime in the past 18 months to avoid the tag? He is doing it for the constant complains in Discord, Patreon and Picarto.

DC could've literally put a single scene or an easter special in the last 18 months in order to avoid the tag here. He doesn't care, he never interacts here.

The game has enough traction and fame all around the internet that he doesn't need F95 anymore, it's the biggest VN Porn Game in the entire internet, if you search for any adult VN game it will take you less than 2 minutes to find Summertime Saga, there's SS videos in PH with millions of views.
 

Black Orchid

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Why do it NOW after the tag was put in place instead of anytime in the past 18 months to avoid the tag? He is doing it for the constant complains in Discord, Patreon and Picarto.

DC could've literally put a single scene or an easter special in the last 18 months in order to avoid the tag here. He doesn't care, he never interacts here.
he didn't care for the complaints enough to release anything 17,16,15 or 14 months in? he only started to care enough to announce anything exactly 18 months in?
 
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