Ren'Py Summertime Saga [v21.0.0 wip.4468] [Kompas Productions]

[Gzowl_LiP]

AI slop is for people that lack any real talent

Because AI is for talentless people, and being lazy to learn how to draw shouldn't be rewarded.

This is silly.

1. Players can tell good AI and poor AI art apart. It's easy to tell who is relying entirely on AI, and who is using it to improve on their work;

2. You're not against the second, because every developer uses it. Every digital tool is using AI and that precedes the emergence of AI-generated art;

3. The overwhelming majority of porn games is 3D, relying on Daz, Koikatsu and Honey Select, among other tools. In the majority of cases, devs are basically playing with dolls. I don't see why 2D devs should be put to a higher standard.

4. It's a porn game. It really doesn't take that much talent to jack one off. There's enough devs out there who seem to forget this simple fact.

if DC is lazy, despite drawing all his shit himself, then what would someone be who doesn't even put in the minimum effort that DC does?

Punctual.

 

[DeepSpace_Potato]

1-Rance X
2-Rance IX
3-Rance Quest
4-Sengoku Rance
5-Rance VI
6-Rance 03
7-Evenicle 2
8-Evenicle
9-Eiyuu * Senki GOLD
10-Eiyuu * Senki
11-Four Elements Trainer

Not a sandbox from what I remember, but worth to be mentioned as 2dcg western-made game.
Behind the Dune

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

I don't want to rub one out to something a fucking computer made. How hard is that for people to understand? AI has no place in porn OR human art in general. I will never accept AI art, deepfakes, or AI voice overs in any capacity. These things are not a tool, they are a crutch, a cost cutting scheme and malicious in nature.

 

[GaRbS]

Not counting Japanese games. Name 10 western-made games, same requirements. Also, cannot be from the same series. You have 1 so far.

1-Four Elements Trainer
2-Good Girl Gone Bad
3-Katawa Shoujo
4-Princess Trainer Gold Edition
5-Space Paws
6-Book 5: Untold Legend of Korra
7-Insexual Awakening
8-Friendship with Benefits
9-My Tuition Academia
10-Karryn's Prison

 

[Ayam85]

Isn't Karryn's Prison a Japanese game?

 

[GaRbS]

Isn't Karryn's Prison a Japanese game?

If it is then it doesn't have the tag on this site.

 

[FGM01]

Annie
Judith
Lopez & Martinez
Rhonda
Coach Bridget
Mrs. Smith
Abby
Jane

There's some other characters like the moms of certain school characters, characters who have a little content but need more, like the lifeguard and the nun, and there's also recently added characters that don't have any content yet.

So there are plenty of characters we haven't hooked up with. It's going to be very long before Summertime Saga is feature complete.

Who are Abby and Jane again? I completely forget lol. But yeah, I think Annie's mom was the one I was referring to.

Overhauling the game has taken them close to 3 years (?) and isn't going to be done anytime soon when it was supposed to only take ~4 months. DC has never been good at managing, in fact he's terrible at it and admits he just wants to draw.

Then why not hire a real project manager? From the impression I get here of his success he can probably afford to.

The struggle is self-evident. We're never gonna get anything other than isolated quests, at least with the characters that already have content.

Booo, I wouldn't let him off the hook that easily. Those existing characters are the ones people have known for years and have an attachment to. It hasn't even been that long for me and tbh remembering the girls from your list, I care much less about them in comparison to the ones we already got to know deeply.

1-Four Elements Trainer
2-Good Girl Gone Bad
3-Katawa Shoujo
4-Princess Trainer Gold Edition
5-Space Paws
6-Book 5: Untold Legend of Korra
7-Insexual Awakening
8-Friendship with Benefits
9-My Tuition Academia
10-Karryn's Prison

These wouldn't happen to all be 2d games? I recognize some at least and may check out the others, but I don't the 3d look.

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

1-Four Elements Trainer
2-Good Girl Gone Bad
3-Katawa Shoujo
4-Princess Trainer Gold Edition
5-Space Paws
6-Book 5: Untold Legend of Korra
7-Insexual Awakening
8-Friendship with Benefits
9-My Tuition Academia
10-Karryn's Prison

1.Four Elements Trainer: slightly lower quality art and animation, but I'll count it: +1
2.Good Girl Gone Bad: Pure VN, traced art: -1
3.Princess Trainer: The OG, I'll count it: +1
4.Katawa Shoujo: No sandbox, pure VN: -1
5.Space paws: Lower quality art, but I'll count it: +1
6.Book 5: Untold Legend of Korra: Another Avatar game, worse than FET: -1
7.Insexual Awakening: Shota trash, taking off extra: -2
8.Friendship with benefits: Light sandbox elements, art ok, but writing is terrible. Pony game.: +1
9.My Tuition Academia: Another TwistedScarlett. Art is fine, a bit bland, writing is mid to bad.: +1
10.Karryn's Prison: Can confirm, Japanese: -1

So your grand total comes to 3, as I see it. Now the real challenge, find 7 more WITHOUT listing a parody game. I'll allow parody characters(StS has them), but not a full parody game.

 

[LexiTV]

This game is so fucking bad and the dev is the biggest scammer around. This is a miracle... He makes 100k a month with absolute shit. People really are stupid... or this could be a brilliant new money laundering scheme.

 

[Senigata]

This game is so fucking bad and the dev is the biggest scammer around. This is a miracle... He makes 100k a month with absolute shit. People really are stupid... or this could be a brilliant new money laundering scheme.

Isn't it like 50k per month? The way this is going, you guys are gonna say he makes a solid milion a month.

 

[RT5X]

1-Four Elements Trainer
2-Good Girl Gone Bad
3-Katawa Shoujo
4-Princess Trainer Gold Edition
5-Space Paws
6-Book 5: Untold Legend of Korra
7-Insexual Awakening
8-Friendship with Benefits
9-My Tuition Academia
10-Karryn's Prison

Insexual Awakening has the shittiest sequel to a game on this entire site

 

[FGM01]

Didn't know Insexual Awakening had a sequel

.....Uh that does not look like the first game

 

[Datshitdank]

This game is not abandoned hes clearly still streaming him making the art for it..

 

[meh1995]

1-Four Elements Trainer
2-Good Girl Gone Bad
3-Katawa Shoujo
4-Princess Trainer Gold Edition
5-Space Paws
6-Book 5: Untold Legend of Korra
7-Insexual Awakening
8-Friendship with Benefits
9-My Tuition Academia
10-Karryn's Prison

I'd remove good girl gone bad and karryn's prison from that, but yeah, more or less that.

I think you and a lot of other people on here underestimate just how ambitious the game really is. If were really that simple why aren't there more? Name 10 completed 2d sandbox adult visual novels of the same quality. Hell, name 5. Hell, name any.

1. Insexual Awakening
2. Snow Daze
3. Zombie's Retreat
4. Town of Passion
5. Four Elements Trainer
6. Friendship with Benefits
7. Project X
8. Space Paws
9. Katawa Shoujo
10. Fucking Unteralterbach

Can even mention plenty of other unfinished games with more content and more quality. I'd say STS is actually bottom of the barrel when it comes to quality.

 

[RT5X]

I'd remove good girl gone bad and karryn's prison from that, but yeah, more or less that.

1. Insexual Awakening
2. Snow Daze
3. Zombie's Retreat
4. Town of Passion
5. Four Elements Trainer
6. Friendship with Benefits
7. Project X
8. Space Paws
9. Katawa Shoujo
10. Fucking Unteralterbach

Can even mention plenty of other unfinished games with more content and more quality. I'd say STS is actually bottom of the barrel when it comes to quality.

Snow Daze.....
Hot take:
DarkCookie has an infinitely better dev team than Outbreak Games
I'm still annoyed they're remaking the entire game instead of doing Tropical Daze

 

[CUNTBLAZER420]

I'd remove good girl gone bad and karryn's prison from that, but yeah, more or less that.

1. Insexual Awakening
2. Snow Daze
3. Zombie's Retreat
4. Town of Passion
5. Four Elements Trainer
6. Friendship with Benefits
7. Project X
8. Space Paws
9. Katawa Shoujo
10. Fucking Unteralterbach

Can even mention plenty of other unfinished games with more content and more quality. I'd say STS is actually bottom of the barrel when it comes to quality.

Don't know what the fuck you're smoking, but pass that shit my way. StS is WAY better than all of those games, with the exception of maybe Katawa Shoujo, which doesn't meet all my required stipulations. I don't get where this new narrative that the game is actually trash has come from. The game is fine, in its highest moments it is one of the best games on the site. It just hasn't updated in 3 years. That is its only major problem.

 

[LIhg]

Insexual Awakening has the shittiest sequel to a game on this entire shit

true af

 

[GaRbS]

These wouldn't happen to all be 2d games? I recognize some at least and may check out the others, but I don't the 3d look.

Yes, those are all 2d games.

6.Book 5: Untold Legend of Korra: Another Avatar game, worse than FET: -1
7.Insexual Awakening: Shota trash, taking off extra: -2

No, I refuse your trash opinions.

So your grand total comes to 3, as I see it. Now the real challenge, find 7 more WITHOUT listing a parody game. I'll allow parody characters(StS has them), but not a full parody game.

1-Monster Girl 100
2-The Sword of Succubus
3-Snow Daze
4-Town of Passion
5-Unveiling the Unknown
6-HuniePop
7-Eroico

At this point you're just being petty with your ultra specific requirements for a game to be compared to StS: "completed 2d adult sandbox non-parody non-Japanese game that is not part of a series of games and has art of a similar level of quality". Come on now.

 

[meh1995]

Snow Daze.....
Hot take:
DarkCookie has an infinitely better dev team than Outbreak Games
I'm still annoyed they're remaking the entire game instead of doing Tropical Daze

I agree, but at the very least Snow Daze is a finished game as of now. I do remember when people complained about the game because they didn't have updates for a couple of months. Like, oh boy, lol.

Don't know what the fuck you're smoking, but pass that shit my way. StS is WAY better than all of those games, with the exception of maybe Katawa Shoujo, which doesn't meet all my required stipulations. I don't get where this new narrative that the game is actually trash has come from. The game is fine, in its highest moments it is one of the best games on the site. It just hasn't updated in 3 years. That is its only major problem.

Because the standards for what makes a good game has changed in 3 years with more games being completed and having far more content than STS does. You are crazy if you think 4 Elements Trainer isn't better than STS, let alone games like Town of Passion. You might think this is something subjective, but FET has far more content than STS does, likable characters despite being a parody, two different routes with each book, and good art in general.

Hell, FET started development AFTER STS and it's already finished and a better product than STS currently is. The game is definitively not a bad game, don't get me wrong, the issue here is that there are already far better games on this site that make a fraction of what this scam does, finished or not. That's pretty frustrating.

Grant you, I didn't read the parody line, but I could go on:

1. Knightly Passion
2. Hentasia
3. Paradise Lust
4. S.H.E.L.T.E.R.
5. Confined with Goddesses
6. Sexy Quest
7. Paprika Trainer

Honorable mention to Tamas Awakening. And that not to mention unfinished games with more content than STS does, like Another Chance.

 

[RT5X]

true af

All bro had to do was hire a new artist but got lazy and used koikatsu lmao (KK is the easiest shit to use to pump out images)
Despite DC taking forever i'd rather wait long for another update than have a dev switch to KK lmao